BMW Motorcycles

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@Jun 6 2005, 12:46 PM

Aiyah..... Counter impress her and Bua your RT's engine cover while leaning over and giving her a http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/wave.gif at the same time lah. And don't forget to lift your chin guard and give her a http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/smooch.gif

Eh...... bad example, bad example.... leave out the Bua part, not for Gentlemen riders, else you become a Buayah........kekekeke....... http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/cover.gif

[SDR]

Late model R models (2 valve) - BMW recommendation is for a RON of 91 and MON of 82. Under most circumstances, Regular Unleaded 87 pump octane (AKI) will meet your needs. However, due to production variations, tuning, etc. the recommended pump octane (AKI) may not be adequate.

 

K75 & K100 (2 valve) - BMW's recommendation is 89 octane (AKI) with a RON of 95 and a MON of 85. We've found premium fuels are rarely required by these engines. I would recommend a high quality mid grade fuel.

 

R1100's - BMW recommends a "mid to premium" grade fuel with a minimum of 89 pump octane (AKI) with a RON of 95 and a MON of 85. I find no knocking in these engines when we use a high quality premium as opposed to the mid grade fuels.

 

K100 & K1100 (4 valve) - BMW recommends a "premium" grade fuel with a minimum of 89 pump octane (AKI) with a RON of 95 and a MON of 85. These bikes like a higher pump octane (AKI). I wouldn't recommend using anything other than a high quality premium grade fuel in these motorcycles.

 

THE INTERNET BMW RIDER - OCTANE RATING SYSTEMS

[SDR]

However, please don't be fooled that the higher octane rating the better it will be for your car! This is a fallacy. Most UK cars runs on 95 RON, using a higher octane rated petrol will make no effect on your car's performance. If higher octane ratings make a car perform better then 95 RON petrol would have been phased out a long time ago! If you wish to know more then read this bit. If not go to the next paragraph. Octane can withstand pressure well, Pentane cannot. When petrol is refined a mixture of Pentane and octane is produced. The quality of the petrol is defined in its octane rating (95 RON denotes 95% octane: 5% Pentane. Likewise, if the petrol is extra refined you'll have 98 RON 98%octane: 2% Pentane). Now, if a car is set at 95 RON petrol, in the combustion chamber (where the petrol ignites with the spark plugs causing the petrol to become a gas) the piston compresses the chamber where the gas is. The amount of pressure is enough for the octane in petrol to withstand. So, if you think about it, why put a more expensive petrol in your car if the piston will only apply enough pressure for 95% octane? It won't damage your car, but it won't make it go any faster. However, if you put a 95 RON petrol in a car that is set to 98 RON petrol, the piston will compress the chamber too much and the pentane will push the piston down too early causing a shuddering in the drive. This is known as "pinking" or "pinging". This will damage your car. This is why octane ratings are important.

 

SHELL OPTIMAX

[SDR]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@Jun 6 2005, 01:39 PM

Wasn't aware of syn = low temp = noise. But me fav syn has always been the 300V. One of our guys here is trying out some super duper black bottle snake oil that's exclusively brought in for personal consumption....... will check it out with him http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/nod.gif

BLACK GOLD ENGINE OIL?

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by SDR@Jun 6 2005, 01:43 PM

SHELL OPTIMAX

Their Optimax = local V-power ??? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

[SDR]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@Jun 6 2005, 01:59 PM

Their Optimax = local V-power ??? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

Seem like only Malaysia and Singapore hv V-Power (100 octane) and Shell spoksman once claimed that Spore Vpower is different from Malaysia Vpower.

[PL]

Originally posted by SDR@Jun 6 2005, 02:05 PM

I will stick to Mobil, especially 1 - easy to access and can get a good bargain @ Carrefour if I dare to use them.

After reading your articles, I'm very tempted to use Mobil 1 already. I think I'll DIY again soon.

 

What's stopping u, any concern?

 

The articles u put up here is very very useful, and especially valuable to people like myself. Most of the time, have to rely on mechs to tell u what u need to know. Thank you, Mr SDR.

 

But the one abt using fuel with higher Octane than your vehicles require, I have some personal experiences. As you guys know, I've been going to KL quite regularly. My wife's place is abt ~358km away. On the way up, I always fill up to to the max at Petronas GP. Always when I reach, there will be 1 or 2 bars left on my fuel indicator. On the way back to SG, I will also top up to the max b4 starting my journey, but always V-Power (Shell, coz it's near her place). And when I reach GP, I usually have 3 or 4 bars left on my indicator. My travel speed, 120-140km/h. Very seldom exceed that. To be fair, the Shell station is abt 20km away from her place. So I've travelled abt 20km before topping up. But for my bike, I can travel abt 30km+ for each bar, so to see 1 or 2 additional bars is quite significant. So, I think fuel with higher octane may not give better performance or clean up ur engine, but it does give u better mileage.

[SDR]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@Jun 6 2005, 01:39 PM

Wasn't aware of syn = low temp = noise. But me fav syn has always been the 300V. One of our guys here is trying out some super duper black bottle snake oil that's exclusively brought in for personal consumption....... will check it out with him http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/nod.gif

Marginal Heat Control

Even when all conditions are perfect for conventional oils to do their job, they still don't do it all that well. Part of the problem is that (because of their refined nature) petroleum oils are composed of molecules which vary greatly in size. As the oil flows through your vehicle's lubrication system, the small, light molecules tend to flow in the center of the oil stream while the large, heavy ones adhere to metal surfaces where they create a barrier against heat movement from the component to the oil stream. In effect, the large, heavy molecules work like a blanket around hot components.

 

There is another effect of the non-uniformity of petroleum oil molecules which reduces their effectiveness as well. Uniformly smooth molecules slip over one another with relative ease. This is not the case with molecules of differing size. It would be much like putting one layer of marbles on top of another. If the marbles were all of the same size, they would move over one another fairly easily. However, if they were all of differing sizes, the result would be much less efficient. In the case of petroleum oils this inefficiency leads, ironically, to added friction in the system (the very thing that lubricants are supposed to reduce). Hence, petroleum oils are only marginally capable of controlling heat in your engine.

 

SYNTHETIC OIL

 

Seem like the above suggest tt mineral oil should generate more heat.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by SDR@Jun 6 2005, 02:06 PM

Seem like only Malaysia and Singapore hv V-Power (100 octane) and Shell spoksman once claimed that Spore Vpower is different from Malaysia Vpower.

Yah right, Sin$ and Malaysian Ring looks kinda different too http://jkhouw.smugmug.com/photos/17062081-M.gif

[SDR]

Originally posted by PL@Jun 6 2005, 02:11 PM

After reading your articles, I'm very tempted to use Mobil 1 already. I think I'll DIY again soon.

 

What's stopping u, any concern?

 

The articles u put up here is very very useful, and especially valuable to people like myself. Most of the time, have to rely on mechs to tell u what u need to know. Thank you, Mr SDR.

Now I am quite sure I can use car synthetic oil on my bike, but now the question is: can I use the Syn oil from Carrefour? I am still not able to find out where the hell they brought in the oil.

 

Have stopped using for the last few years as bike wasn't ridden hard enough, oil change at interval of 3months and usually less than 1k km. Felt quite a waste of $. If you are switching, pls read following :

 

Synthetics Are Compatible With Mineral Based Oils, But Be Careful:

 

When switching to a synthetic motor oil, it is important to keep several things in mind regarding oil consumption. Keep extra quarts of synthetic handy. Although many synthetic oil manufacturers tout the compatibility of their oils with mineral-based oils, adding mineral oil to synthetic oil will drastically reduce the level of engine protection that was initially designed into the synthetic oil as well as the mileage to your next oil change. Also, as the mineral oil breaks down it will contaminate the rest of the oil, leaving sludge and varnish deposits in the engine (this is because mineral oil is made up of many chemically dissimilar hydrocarbons, including waxes, all of which react differently under different operating conditions). By adding a mineral oil to synthetic oil you will also see a reduction in engine efficiency. depending on how much, and when, the mineral-based oil was introduced.

 

There are many different companies that offer synthetics. because this overview is intended to give readers a general idea of the benefits of synthetic lubricants, we have not discussed the specific differences between all the individual brands and their formulations. Keep in mind that there are significant differences between brands of synthetics, which will affect the performance and longevity of your engine, transmission, axles, bearings and chassis components.

The Auto Industry's Best Kept Secret

The oil I am going to use may not be the best but it is one of the oil I have been using with trust for a long time, following is a chart for your reference :

 

Four Ball Wear Scar Testing

The Smaller the Wear Scar, The Better the Protection!

http://www.guarding-our-earth.com/amsoil/images/0w30-wearscar.gif

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by PL@Jun 6 2005, 11:01 AM

TRAIL BLAZING WOMEN BIKERS?

 

Man...I think I'll be riding for quite a while for opportunities to meet them... heh heh heh

Thats' Tina in the article on her Harley.... Nice person to talk to....

[SDR]

Originally posted by PL@Jun 6 2005, 02:11 PM

But the one abt using fuel with higher Octane than your vehicles require, I have some personal experiences. As you guys know, I've been going to KL quite regularly. My wife's place is abt ~358km away. On the way up, I always fill up to to the max at Petronas GP. Always when I reach, there will be 1 or 2 bars left on my fuel indicator. On the way back to SG, I will also top up to the max b4 starting my journey, but always V-Power (Shell, coz it's near her place). And when I reach GP, I usually have 3 or 4 bars left on my indicator. My travel speed, 120-140km/h. Very seldom exceed that. To be fair, the Shell station is abt 20km away from her place. So I've travelled abt 20km before topping up. But for my bike, I can travel abt 30km+ for each bar, so to see 1 or 2 additional bars is quite significant. So, I think fuel with higher octane may not give better performance or clean up ur engine, but it does give u better mileage.

Shell spore ever admit that using Spore Vpower will experience more petrol consumption, as more fuel is "easily" burnt to produce more power and Shell 98 has been proven (don't know who had proven it) to gain more mileage.

 

Malaysia Vpower is design for long distance travel, so if it is used for city travel, engine will generate more heat & Spore Vpower wont.

 

Can't actually remember the exact explanation from Shell Spore. It's something like above.

 

Next time, may be you will like to try Petronas instead of Esso.

[PL]

Actually, now that I've put it in writing, I suddenly realise why i "seems" to get better mileage. You see, on the way back, I top-up after travelling for abt 20km. And after topping-up, I travelled 20km less compared to travelling from SG to KL. So, in total, the difference in distance is abt 40km. No wonder I have additional 1 or 2 bars when I reach GP on the way back. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[SDR]

Originally posted by PL@Jun 6 2005, 02:59 PM

Actually, now that I've put it in writing, I suddenly realise why i "seems" to get better mileage. You see, on the way back, I top-up after travelling for abt 20km. And after topping-up, I travelled 20km less compared to travelling from SG to KL. So, in total, the difference in distance is abt 40km. No wonder I have additional 1 or 2 bars when I reach GP on the way back. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Was thinking next time I go Malaysia, die die must top up Vpower.

[PL]

Originally posted by SDR@Jun 6 2005, 03:04 PM

Was thinking next time I go Malaysia, die die must top up Vpower.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/twak.gif heh heh, sorry ler for giving u false hope.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by PL@Jun 6 2005, 03:15 PM

http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/twak.gif heh heh, sorry ler for giving u false hope.

The 20clicks to the petrol station towards or away from Sin? Or is it at a tangent? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/peepwall.gif

[DAViS]

Originally posted by Suzu@May 26 2005, 12:32 AM

Hey this is one of my FAVOURITE cartoon Anyone knows wats the name of this cartoon ? Tot of buying it to keep

Robotech...

Pseudo Macross.

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by DAViS@Jun 7 2005, 12:46 AM

Robotech...

Pseudo Macross.

[PL]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@Jun 6 2005, 03:21 PM

The 20clicks to the petrol station towards or away from Sin? Or is it at a tangent? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/peepwall.gif

20 clicks towards Sin. After topping up, travel less 20 clicks. So altogether less abt 40 clicks compared to the journey from Sin to KL.

[Guest koma]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@Jun 6 2005, 01:10 PM

Eh...... bad example, bad example.... leave out the Bua part, not for Gentlemen riders, else you become a Buayah........kekekeke....... http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/cover.gif

hahaha~~!! gd 1

[Guest koma]

Originally posted by GSGabes@Jun 6 2005, 02:27 PM

Thats' Tina in the article on her Harley.... Nice person to talk to....

hhmm....gabes get her to come dwn carmen for a kopi some day,the guys would surely like to knoe her rite PL ...cool babe`~~~

[R11S]

helo guyz.....beside pml, where usually do u guyz send ur beemers for servicing....

[SDR]

PML,

PML,

PML,

PML,

PML.

[Suzu]

Originally posted by SDR@Jun 7 2005, 10:58 PM

PML,

PML,

PML,

PML,

PML.

YEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Suzu]

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