BMW Motorcycles

[XiaoMing]

I know, that is what I feel about my scooter too.

 

 

 

Normal or servo? How do they get it to be so powerful if normal? Braided, 4 pot etc? Wld like more info.

 

Cheers

 

Cat

 

quite an unfair comparison if rider is comparing the braking power to HD, guess any bike should have better braking than HD except the vintage Vespa, I have tried the 883 before, 2 fingers braking is impossible, the brakes really sucks and this is a common issue on HD bikes.

 

belt is commonly known to be least efficient from the professional racers and/or stunt riders, guess not easy for a city commuter to tell the diff as you can't inter-change the belt, chain and shaft on the same bike for a fair comparison, "feel" less efficient may be your bike "bo-lat", so even if your "bo-lat" bike is fitted with chain it is still "bo-lat".

 

Among the 3, I think chain has the least maintenance cost, easiest to replace (hmm... may not be applicable to modern chain), easiest to get and most convenient to carry around as spares. try changing a shaft/final drive bearing/oil seals and etc.../belt or try carrying a spare shaft / belt on your adventure tour, it is a waste of time and space, so suggest to carry a satellite phone, call for help is easier than trying to fix it and that's the reason modern bikes don't comes with tools.

 

just my 1 cents...

[paithorn]

Called PML today and The F800GS will only be here earliest in Dec.....

[plasticblackspecs]

quite an unfair comparison if rider is comparing the braking power to HD, guess any bike should have better braking than HD except the vintage Vespa, I have tried the 883 before, 2 fingers braking is impossible, the brakes really sucks and this is a common issue on HD bikes.

 

 

I second it. I have a 883 and a TDM. Even though the 883 is rather torquey (for city riding) compared to the TDM. The braking sucks. The TDM's braking is WORLDS apart. Plus the 883 front brakes are single. I would have expected a heavy, zippy (I run around town at 80-100km/h. With the TDM it's more slow riding) to have a more efficient, powerful brakes. The 1200s have dual disc brakes though.

 

Belt's I find are just almost no maintenance, only normal tightening once in awhile. But chains are far more better with pickups and all. I mean look at most sport/track bikes. Chian driven. Anyway the Harley's primary drive is chain.

 

But enough off topics,back to the beemers.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

I understand that besides softening the power thru ECU mapping and using a different belt pulley ratio.... his F800S is practically stock

 

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Pfeiffer successfully defends world championship in Zurich

 

BMW Motorrad’s Chris Pfeiffer has successfully defended the Streetbike Freestyle World Championship in Zurich, which took place this weekend at the SWISS-MOTO Motorcycle, Scooter and Tuning Exhibition in Zurich, Switzerland.

 

The 37-year-old German once again dominated proceedings aboard his BMW F 800, winning each of the four rounds across the weekend, to retain the crown he won at the inaugural event in 2007. Second place went to Portuguese rider Humberto Ribeiro, while rounding up the podium was Sébastien Desbonnet from France.

 

Pfeiffer pitted his skills against 16 competitors from 12 different countries, and once again proved that when it comes to freestyle stunt riding, very few can get close to the BMW Motorrad man.

 

“I feel great, having retained the title I won last year. Because I was the reigning champion, there was a massive amount of pressure on my shoulders to perform again,” said Chris. “I’m extremely proud to have coped with that pressure and to have come through as champion again – especially with all the strange judging decisions that were made!”

 

After initial practice rounds, this weekend’s contest started on Saturday and consisted of two runs of four minutes each, with the best score counting. Having knew that he would have to produce an outstanding run in the final rounds to put himself in contention at the top of the leader board. And after pulling off some never-seen-before combinations, the job was done.

 

“I was delighted to nail the new combinations I was planning, in particular the new donut combo I had never attempted in competition. Then I tried some new wheelie combos that the crowd seemed to enjoy. In the end I managed to produce more tricks in a quicker time than anybody else, and for that I felt I deserved to win over the weekend,” commented Chris.

 

The victory in Zurich ensures that Chris’s name remains at the top of a sport he has dominated for many years. But even after performing at the pinnacle of his profession for 12 years, the man from Halblech, Germany, admits that he still feels the nerves ahead of a big competition.

 

“I was really nervous in the lead up to the World Championship, especially as I was feeling unwell on Saturday – the first day of competition. My nerves weren’t helped by what everyone in the paddock recognised as inconsistent judging. I think they (the judges) just started to allocate high scores too early in the contest and when the big guys came up, they had no more space in order to honour those even greater performances accordingly. Because there were several high scores for average performances for some of the riders, this made me feel like I had to perform even better. But in the end, the other riders acknowledged that despite the scoring, I was the better rider over the weekend.”

 

In this, the second year of the Indoor Streetbike Freestyle World Championships, the organisers have pulled out all the stops the ensure the best possible conditions for those taking part – including the preparation of 70 tonnes of brand new asphalt, costing €30,000, to cover the 15 x 50 metre action area and guarantee perfect levels of grip. It will now have to be scraped off and recycled, but the effort made by organisers of the SWISS-MOTO exhibition to ensure that the perfect environment is created for stunt riding, makes the indoor World Championship Chris’s favourite event.

 

“This is by far my favourite competition as the conditions are fair. Being indoors there are no problems with the weather and the atmosphere generated by the crowd is sensational. There’s a great vibe here and the Swiss organisers do a fantastic job,” said Chris.

 

Looking forward to the 2009 competition, Pfeiffer admits he would love to win a third consecutive title, but believes as time goes on, the competition will become tougher.

 

“Becoming champion can be seen as the easy part. But staying champion is difficult, and it won’t be long before the judges discover a young rider who is capable of winning!” he concluded.

 

The SWISS-MOTO show at the Exhibition Centre in Zurich focused on the very latest in motorcycles, scooters and quads. Visitors who wanted to kit themselves out for the new motorcycle season were able to take their pick from the huge selection of accessories and clothing on offer. In total, the four-day show attracted 63,000 visitors, not only from all over Switzerland but from right across Europe. More info can be seen at the http://www.swiss-moto.ch website.

 

cgl.. you have chosen wisely http://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider/naughty.gif

[SDR]

Is he human?

 

kekeke, love the way he rides the HP2 enduro, perfect...

[contrarian]

belt is commonly known to be least efficient from the professional racers and/or stunt riders, guess not easy for a city commuter to tell the diff as you can't inter-change the belt, chain and shaft on the same bike for a fair comparison, "feel" less efficient may be your bike "bo-lat", so even if your "bo-lat" bike is fitted with chain it is still "bo-lat".

 

Among the 3, I think chain has the least maintenance cost, easiest to replace (hmm... may not be applicable to modern chain), easiest to get and most convenient to carry around as spares. try changing a shaft/final drive bearing/oil seals and etc.../belt or try carrying a spare shaft / belt on your adventure tour, it is a waste of time and space, so suggest to carry a satellite phone, call for help is easier than trying to fix it and that's the reason modern bikes don't comes with tools.

 

I think the F800's toothed belt is meant to address these concerns. It's meant to be low maintenance, even lower than a chain.

[SDR]

I think the F800's toothed belt is meant to address these concerns. It's meant to be low maintenance, even lower than a chain.

 

How long can the belt last and what about replacement cost? Understand the the Vespa GT200 original belt from Piaggio cost about $120 and last 12,000km.

 

Thanks.

[hit.man]

Went to PML just now to check out the R1200GS... Finally got to sit on a GS and I must say the feeling is really great... haha... The sales guy was great and friendly! The showroom was already closed and he was about to ride of when we reached, and he opened the showroom again for us to view the bikes.

I wanna make my dream come true~!!!

[nkan0]

How long can the belt last and what about replacement cost? Understand the the Vespa GT200 original belt from Piaggio cost about $120 and last 12,000km.

 

Thanks.

 

thats usually the life-span for scooter belts, BUT my understanding is that the Belts used on HarLee-a-DaviSon are able to last easily 60,000Km to 100,000KM!!

 

and they've ever used a belt (a quarter of the original thickness) to hang up an HD UltraClassic (300++KG) for a couple of days, in the US lah.... super-lasting!!!

[contrarian]

How long can the belt last and what about replacement cost? Understand the the Vespa GT200 original belt from Piaggio cost about $120 and last 12,000km.

 

Thanks.

 

I'm led to believe at least 40,000 km.

[Demon]

I'm led to believe at least 40,000 km.

 

Only a legally trained person will give such answer

 

An engineer's answer - MTBF is 40,000km subject to different climatic conditions

 

A salesman answer - If you can afford a beemer, that's least of the problem.

 

[paithorn]

 

A salesman answer - If you can afford a beemer, that's least of the problem.

 

 

I personally think this is VERY TRUE....

[cgl]

quite an unfair comparison if rider is comparing the braking power to HD, guess any bike should have better braking than HD except the vintage Vespa, I have tried the 883 before, 2 fingers braking is impossible, the brakes really sucks and this is a common issue on HD bikes.

 

belt is commonly known to be least efficient from the professional racers and/or stunt riders, guess not easy for a city commuter to tell the diff as you can't inter-change the belt, chain and shaft on the same bike for a fair comparison, "feel" less efficient may be your bike "bo-lat", so even if your "bo-lat" bike is fitted with chain it is still "bo-lat".

 

Among the 3, I think chain has the least maintenance cost, easiest to replace (hmm... may not be applicable to modern chain), easiest to get and most convenient to carry around as spares. try changing a shaft/final drive bearing/oil seals and etc.../belt or try carrying a spare shaft / belt on your adventure tour, it is a waste of time and space, so suggest to carry a satellite phone, call for help is easier than trying to fix it and that's the reason modern bikes don't comes with tools.

 

just my 1 cents...

 

 

Nope, not comparing to a HD, but my previous R1100R.

 

I've never heard of a broken shaft drive before. The Intruder I had was also shaft driven. The workshop (Guan Ho) I always visit had never changed one before.

 

I know you can buy spare belts for Harleys. These are meant to be easily replaced on the road.

 

Anyway, it's just me, I'm anti-chain!

[cgl]

I know, that is what I feel about my scooter too.

 

 

 

Normal or servo? How do they get it to be so powerful if normal? Braided, 4 pot etc? Wld like more info.

 

Cheers

 

Cat

 

Normal brakes, braided, Brembo. Front: 2 discs, 4 piston, 320 mm. Rear: 1 disc, 1 piston, 265 mm.

[cgl]

I understand that besides softening the power thru ECU mapping and using a different belt pulley ratio.... his F800S is practically stock

 

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cgl.. you have chosen wisely http://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider/naughty.gif

 

I've watched a lot of his videos. Amazing!

 

I don't know about the "chosen wisely" part, I would only know 50k km later.

 

So far, 600km in slightly more than a week. Engine is great, smooth and torquey and getting better and better. Transmission is a little quirky and needs a little getting used to. Still practicing. I don't do track, but I find the handling superb too. Still slowly trying to push the limits when taking corners. The stock Pilot Road tires are nice. But will be changing to the 2 compound Pilot Road 2 once I recover financially!

[XiaoMing]

Frankly, I hate chain, noisy, oily, dirty and etc... but it looks great on show bike especially those thick gold chain.

 

I prefer belt to shaft, I am a light user so belt will definitely last me a life time. Shaft is good for the initial part, you still face oil seals leak, possible of bearings gives way which is hidden inside and requires some time to get it replace. I am one of the very lucky yes lucky that replaces the final drive, bearings, shaft, seals and etc... the replacement cost can buy you a Spark Z OTR...

[f650gs]

I would say... shaft, chain or belt each have its own + and - and each is at its best during different usage and situation... until the mankind discover a perfect transmittion sys the debate will always goes on and on... just my two and a half cents

 

[nkan0]

I would say... shaft, chain or belt each have its own + and - and each is at its best during different usage and situation... until the mankind discover a perfect transmittion sys the debate will always goes on and on... just my two and a half cents

 

 

haha.... a very politically-correct answer!

 

how's the Ride on the S ?? enjoying it??

[who m i]

ahlo darlings,, mwah mwah mwah

 

you boys miss me or not? i no around you all behave or not?

 

okie i know in heart all of you miss me can aldy lah..

 

orkay i balek here some time later lor

 

now go baboo lane miting my sister from bombay

[Demon]

I've never heard of a broken shaft drive before. The Intruder I had was also shaft driven. The workshop (Guan Ho) I always visit had never changed one before.

 

The shaft on the Intuder 400 is built to last forever because the bike is too under power.

 

[f650gs]

haha.... a very politically-correct answer!

 

how's the Ride on the S ?? enjoying it??

 

The s is great... still getting use to the sports riding nature hehehe.... thanks!

[coolcat]

Anyone ever bought a Light & Easy Jacket? Reviews?

 

Cheers

 

Cat

[ATwin]

posting on behalf of my friend selling his beloved k1200rs

 

http://www.k12rs.com/RideFast.htm

Super low mileage ard 13k

Reasons for selling, posted to overseas

 

Interested, pls email to [email protected].

Price 22k neog.

[contrarian]

Anyone ever bought a Light & Easy Jacket? Reviews?

 

Why not an Airflow or Venting Machine?

I've been using the Airflow 2 for years daily and it seems to work much better here. The construction of the Airflow is far superior to all the other fabric apparel I've owned - Rev'it, Dainese... The black one still looks very new and you can't tell that it's been well used; the red one shows its use though because the red starts to blacken with use.

[XiaoMing]

Thats the perfect testimony for a BMW bike... how many 4th generation of other marques do we still see on the road... you got a gem there Bro

 

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