BMW Motorcycles

[maxxmadness]

Mr. Lee is a friendly boss to chat with among all the local bike shops owners...i do go and chat him up at times but i still choose to get my GS thru PML for peace of mind. period!

 

we are talking about a business deal here, not a friendship deal

[Idono]

Think this Looi sounds like our regular neighborhood shop. Which is fine with me. A lot of bike shops are like that, lack that "professionalism" which we're all used to nowadays I guess. Worked well for old bikes... usually talked more the mechanics than bosses when it comes to bikes...

 

Pardon to ask the following question but because I don't read a lot of forums for the lack of time. It sounds as if the GSA needs a heavy dose of computer diagnostic? Doesn't sound good the way I hear it being written in above. I thought GSA is more like easily to repair, bullet-proof kind of bike?

[wacko]

  beeker said:

think i will weigh in on this whole PML v Looi's thing.

 

Was looking for a GSA a couple of months ago and on the advice on some friends, I went to visit Mr Lee at Looi's. A friend of mine had already booked a 2011 GSA and it was "on the way". When I was introduced to him, I was excited and asked him some normal questions like "when will it arrive" (ans: dunno, sometime before the end of the year I think but i not sure), how much is it (ans: cannot confirm, 40+ can already). When I ask him if i can give him my name and number to place an order, he said "no need lah, I will call your friend when it comes" (btw, he doesn't remember said friend's name let alone number.) oh, and when i asked what colors, he said "what you want? don't know if can get, but try lah, if not other color you take.

 

I'm sorry?

 

The GSA is not a cheap bike, but here I was, a paying customer ready to spend money on a brand new bike, being treated like I was doing him a favor.

 

So i told him I was interested, and he said he would call. It's been almost 3 months, and no call yet. My friend whose bike was supposedly also on the way... yeah.. surprise surprise... no picture no sound.

 

A few days after my (unhappy) visit to Looi's, I head over to PML just to look look see see, only to find out that the 2011 GSAs are out of stock and the 2012 bikes will only be in in March 2012. Sian right? Ask Paul how much the new bikes will cost and he apologizes and says that the new price list will not be out till November, but that if i leave my name and number with him, he will give me a call when the price list arrives and I can make a decision if I want to place an order or not.

 

This is the difference (based on my experience); PML actually calls you back.

 

I got a call from Paul a few days later and to cut a long story short without lengthy story-telling, I managed to get a 2012 GSA Triple Black, with ESA, panniers and top box, insurance and road tax for SLIGHTLY more than what Looi's was quoting (more than 45k, less than 50). My friend who was on the "wait-list" at Looi's got, at the same time, a 2012 GSA Sand. On top of that, I get people who respond to my calls, answer my questions, and go out of their way to help me out.

 

Sometimes the absolute figure is not the best gauge of which is a better deal. Based on the "service" I got at Looi's, I'm not in any hurry to go back. If it is any indication of their after sales service, I am even happier that I didn't bother getting a bike there (I did mention that they STILL haven't called back either my friend nor me right?).

 

To me, I am already dropping a crapload of money of my dream bike, the little bit more to ensure peace of mind goes a long way in my opinion. I also want to state that I am not anti PI. If Looi's had treated me like a proper customer and been substantially cheaper, I probably would have bought my bike there, but they didn't, and I went to PML, and I have no regrets.

Just my personal experience, I am sure some of you have great experiences at Looi's. I am just not fortunate enough to be among that fortunate few.

 

wow..

WOT.

 

and of course, PI bikes have to go for the yearly inspection.

[bo mai lah]

Hi Varas,

 

PML BMW GSA for 2012 comes with ESA, Heated Grips and LED singal lights.

 

 

  Varas said:

i called PML last friday.

 

The registration package no more liao . So next year all GSA price ,you need to pay machine + registration + insurance, I am 33 yrs old, so worked out to be almost 50K! And no ESA, hand warmer .. oh heng ar, they generously can give good price if you wanna purchase panniers from them. However, the current PML sales shows no reflection for a soon to come recession next year. All machines with registration package taken up! recession? what recession ?

 

Anyway I guess PML almost monopolized the market and the threat from parallel importers are not enough to uproot their throne. So they set nice premiums for those who can afford the machine. its a take it or leave it thingy..

 

hope in time to come, the parallel importers will have better support logistically and technically to rival PML. Then consumers can stand to benefit and more choices to select from.

[moto_fly]

  bo mai lah said:

Hi Varas,

 

PML BMW GSA for 2012 comes with ESA, Heated Grips and LED singal lights.

 

Wah paul...now PML beemers come with PI options?? Very gooddddd...

[Idono]

wah. very long didnt see Paul on this forum... any 2nd hand GSA with u recently?

[MI_R1]

  bo mai lah said:

Hi Varas,

 

PML BMW GSA for 2012 comes with ESA, Heated Grips and LED singal lights.

  moto_fly said:

Wah paul...now PML beemers come with PI options?? Very gooddddd...

 

  Idono said:

...bullet-proof kind of bike?

kevlar perhaps......

[Varas]

  bo mai lah said:

Hi Varas,

 

PML BMW GSA for 2012 comes with ESA, Heated Grips and LED singal lights.

 

The 2012 model comes with it? Ok I took reference from 2011 model from PML somewhere mid year

 

PM me the price can? and what comes with it.

 

Beeker > Last I checked with Looi, not so bad reply leh..

[tofuman]

  Varas said:

The 2012 model comes with it? Ok I took reference from 2011 model from PML somewhere mid year

 

PM me the price can? and what comes with it.

 

Beeker > Last I checked with Looi, not so bad reply leh..

 

When he replied you confidently means he got ready stock in hand. If no ready stock then you will get answer like what Beeker gets.

 

That's what happen to this mate of mine, arh-ka-chee with Mr Lee, he gave very vague answers also. Not only the BMWs the other make also the same. The worse bike is Yamaha he claimed the agent controlled the price.

 

At the end of the day you just need to weigh the difference. As stated I'm in neither side, unless one side an give me the offer I cannot resist.

 

A mate of mine just got his GS from PML, no doubt it's a lesser spec than the triple black, but with all the goodies thrown in it's still worth while to support Paul according to him. Please also do note that this mate of mine had been riding bikes from Looi's since the Yishun days.

 

I'm still waiting for th durian to drop from the sky.

 

Cheers

[JustRider]

Hi all,

 

I would like to know if PML will service a BMW that I am thinking of buying from a bike shop? Does it matter where the bike originate from? If it matters how to let PML service?

 

Thanks for helping.

[maxxmadness]

  JustRider said:

Hi all,

 

I would like to know if PML will service a BMW that I am thinking of buying from a bike shop? Does it matter where the bike originate from? If it matters how to let PML service?

 

Thanks for helping.

 

aiyo..just this page the topics is being discuss, scroll up and read

[papabread79]

  maxxmadness said:

aiyo..just this page the topics is being discuss, scroll up and read

u r agitated arent u?

[maxxmadness]

  papabread79 said:

u r agitated arent u?

 

are you feeling the same way?

[wacko]

  maxxmadness said:

are you feeling the same way?

 

he is always agitated..

[bo mai lah]

  Idono said:

wah. very long didnt see Paul on this forum... any 2nd hand GSA with u recently?

 

I may have 1 pre-owned for sale. PM me

[bo mai lah]

wah bro, like that not fair leh! must compare in same terms mah.

 

2011 Mid year model and 2012 Limited edition model and Mr Lee's motorcycles. alot of difference, bro.

 

Bro, come down to the showroom, i can even show you what comes with the 2012 GSA. Better rite?

 

  Varas said:

The 2012 model comes with it? Ok I took reference from 2011 model from PML somewhere mid year

 

PM me the price can? and what comes with it.

 

Beeker > Last I checked with Looi, not so bad reply leh..

[bo mai lah]

i got my chair and popcorn ready!!!haha

 

  papabread79 said:

u r agitated arent u?

[MI_R1]

  bo mai lah said:

i got my chair and popcorn ready!!!haha

 

SO free

 

Sale target reached

[bo mai lah]

no lah, having early lunchtime lah. if hit target, i go holiday liao

 

  MI_R1 said:

SO free

 

Sale target reached

[wacko]

  bo mai lah said:

i got my chair and popcorn ready!!!haha

 

  MI_R1 said:

SO free

 

Sale target reached

 

boss not around mah..

 

so can eat snake mah..

 

:cheeky:

[papabread79]

  maxxmadness said:

are you feeling the same way?

yah, a bit, especially when it comes to e same qn, month after month.

[papabread79]

  wacko said:

he is always agitated..

is it Mr Handsome?

 

  bo mai lah said:

i got my chair and popcorn ready!!!haha

Now PML offers popcorn too besides e usual?

[JustRider]

  maxxmadness said:

aiyo..just this page the topics is being discuss, scroll up and read

 

Please bear with me.

 

The topic discussed in the last 2 threads dealt with buying new from PI and BMW, and warranty issues.

 

What I am asking is if I buy BMW from a bike shop, will PML service? I am not asking about warranty issues. I must admit that I did not say that it is a used BMW that I am asking about.

 

Apology if my question is unclear.

 

Thanks.

[wacko]

  JustRider said:

Please bear with me.

 

The topic discussed in the last 2 threads dealt with buying new from PI and BMW, and warranty issues.

 

What I am asking is if I buy BMW from a bike shop, will PML service? I am not asking about warranty issues. I must admit that I did not say that it is a used BMW that I am asking about.

 

Apology if my question is unclear.

 

Thanks.

 

from your question, i deduce..

 

you asking if you buy a USED BMW bike from a bike shop, will PML service?

check the number plate with PML 1st before you buy. I believe they can do that. That is to check whether the previous owner bought a PI or a PML bike.

 

even if its a PI bike, but already adopted by PML, yes you can service there but with extra 25% of the price. If its a PML bike, you can just ride in to service, but of course, it will not be free la.

 

but if u were to buy a use PI bmw bike, u have to pay the adoption fee of $5K.

 

hope this clears the air.

[maxxmadness]

  bo mai lah said:

i got my chair and popcorn ready!!!haha

 

more popcorn and the chair will break..

 

so is it true? PML giving out popcorn for snacks too?