how much do you spend on racing avg per month??

[h3llfire]

racing is a expensive sport man. so i would like to know for freq racer how much do you spend avg every month and wat kind of race u enter. and also how much u will always set aside to prep in case of repair etc. i would like to enter the racing scene. need to set budget

 

base on 600cc class

thank u

[personified]

yer bike is specifically for race or also for street?

the initial set up will cost u but then again it depends how nuch mods u willing to do..

the "standards" are normally a full system and PC which actually is more then enough as none of us actually exploit the full potential of our superbike.

as for me, i focus much on braking and handling,u wanna go fast ,,u jolly well make sure yr bike stops fast too.

no i dont have an ave spending per month as races are not monthly.PG races are ideal for initial start up.. SMSA races are only $100 per event

MSS sepang can blow yr budget out of poportion like maybe around min. $2000 per race weekend,

the main bane of racing for me are tyres....i do not risk it..after 3 track/race session.i change a set and its cost at least $400 plus /set,its still cheaper then crashiing/sliding off on a worn tyres...

if u wanna enter a race for 1st time...do PG first. its really value for money racing which if u cannot tahan racing there then any other races elsewhere,i think no need look further...

i also suggest u service yr bike with a shop that supports n tune racebikes,they be glad to assist u in persuing yr dreams n most likely the ppl working there are racers too so they can understand yr needs as a rider.

.repairing and spares for crashing? i cant tell as it depends on how severe the damages are n wad is neeeded for replacement.

i feel importantly is not to stinge on setting up yr bike,u be doing more then 250km on the straights or 200km on a sweeping bend so there must be zero compromise on the condition of yr bike..yr set up must be at least 99% perfect,if it strain yer budget, skip that race...save up cause there will always be the next round couple months time..

cheers

[starr]

yer bike is specifically for race or also for street?

the initial set up will cost u but then again it depends how nuch mods u willing to do..

the "standards" are normally a full system and PC which actually is more then enough as none of us actually exploit the full potential of our superbike.

as for me, i focus much on braking and handling,u wanna go fast ,,u jolly well make sure yr bike stops fast too.

no i dont have an ave spending per month as races are not monthly.PG races are ideal for initial start up.. SMSA races are only $100 per event

MSS sepang can blow yr budget out of poportion like maybe around min. $2000 per race weekend,

the main bane of racing for me are tyres....i do not risk it..after 3 track/race session.i change a set and its cost at least $400 plus /set,its still cheaper then crashiing/sliding off on a worn tyres...

if u wanna enter a race for 1st time...do PG first. its really value for money racing which if u cannot tahan racing there then any other races elsewhere,i think no need look further...

i also suggest u service yr bike with a shop that supports n tune racebikes,they be glad to assist u in persuing yr dreams n most likely the ppl working there are racers too so they can understand yr needs as a rider.

.repairing and spares for crashing? i cant tell as it depends on how severe the damages are n wad is neeeded for replacement.

i feel importantly is not to stinge on setting up yr bike,u be doing more then 250km on the straights or 200km on a sweeping bend so there must be zero compromise on the condition of yr bike..yr set up must be at least 99% perfect,if it strain yer budget, skip that race...save up cause there will always be the next round couple months time..

cheers

 

Great piece of advice and I thank you.

[h3llfire]

yer bike is specifically for race or also for street?

the initial set up will cost u but then again it depends how nuch mods u willing to do..

the "standards" are normally a full system and PC which actually is more then enough as none of us actually exploit the full potential of our superbike.

as for me, i focus much on braking and handling,u wanna go fast ,,u jolly well make sure yr bike stops fast too.

no i dont have an ave spending per month as races are not monthly.PG races are ideal for initial start up.. SMSA races are only $100 per event

MSS sepang can blow yr budget out of poportion like maybe around min. $2000 per race weekend,

the main bane of racing for me are tyres....i do not risk it..after 3 track/race session.i change a set and its cost at least $400 plus /set,its still cheaper then crashiing/sliding off on a worn tyres...

if u wanna enter a race for 1st time...do PG first. its really value for money racing which if u cannot tahan racing there then any other races elsewhere,i think no need look further...

i also suggest u service yr bike with a shop that supports n tune racebikes,they be glad to assist u in persuing yr dreams n most likely the ppl working there are racers too so they can understand yr needs as a rider.

.repairing and spares for crashing? i cant tell as it depends on how severe the damages are n wad is neeeded for replacement.

i feel importantly is not to stinge on setting up yr bike,u be doing more then 250km on the straights or 200km on a sweeping bend so there must be zero compromise on the condition of yr bike..yr set up must be at least 99% perfect,if it strain yer budget, skip that race...save up cause there will always be the next round couple months time..

cheers

 

yes, it for street n track. but mostly for track as i got a transport bike also. just tat sg no track and towing to malaysia is also a headache n exp also well. that alot spend on tires man. cannot go so freq also.

 

i also suggest u service yr bike with a shop that supports n tune racebikes,they be glad to assist u in persuing yr dreams n most likely the ppl working there are racers too so they can understand yr needs as a rider.[\quote]

 

wat do u mean?? what kind of benefit do racer will gain if they go to that place??

 

2k for just a mss race!!!

if i go for that race i will be eating grass that month. how u guy go for it?? do u guy earn 10k a month??

[rein_jahat14]

yes, it for street n track. but mostly for track as i got a transport bike also. just tat sg no track and towing to malaysia is also a headache n exp also well. that alot spend on tires man. cannot go so freq also.

 

i also suggest u service yr bike with a shop that supports n tune racebikes,they be glad to assist u in persuing yr dreams n most likely the ppl working there are racers too so they can understand yr needs as a rider.

 

wat do u mean?? what kind of benefit do racer will gain if they go to that place??

 

2k for just a mss race!!!

if i go for that race i will be eating grass that month. how u guy go for it?? do u guy earn 10k a month??

 

This is juz a suggestion from me..

 

Better to have a clear judgement of wat the rider current pace..

(eg pasir gudang,sepang)

True,riders or ppl have made comments that a rider will get better if enter a race..

but u have to be realistic too..

wat i mean is..

If a rider is pacing 2 mins & he enters Asia Road Racing Competition(Asia-Pac)..

He probably won qualify to race as there is a minimum race timing to be in the race.

MSS have practise this but in MSS is slightly lenient as a rider can write an appeal letter rite after the qualifyin session to enter the race.

BRS no such thing..U pay,if u don crash u will be on the grid to race no matter how far or only competitor in ur category.(sad actually there is no exclusivity or brings value to the racing series)

You will need to have a clear perspective of wat racing series u want to venture.

All series have its positive & negative points,its how the rider wants to gain from it.

 

Wat Larry probably suggesting is..

A shop mech can probably service a bike to is road worthy condition.

But in Racing a bike has to be more than juz road worthy..

In terms of race parts compare to accessories are diff..

A mech can probably install an accessories but may not have the knowledge for race part.(be it engine parts,mechanical part or juz static)

Simple like suspension..the mech may know how to install but will he know how to have it set up to ur specific riding,style & utilisation?

Goin to a shop that has some racing knowledge can be an advantage like :-

-Recommendation for best track tire pressure

-set up of gearing(best sprockets to use..etc)

-Recommendation of Track riding pattern or technique..

-Aid in terms of repairs or race preparation..

 

There are probably more u could gain,as probably other racer/riders will be there u can also approach them for advise or tips.

 

My advise is to participate in PG trackdays or Sepang Trackdays..

Have a reliable lap timer,pace urself by having ur own race simulation.(Not to a point of crashing or causing others to crash...)

Have a riding or sparring partner that is within ur pace to train if possible.If can get a proper guide/mentor/trainer even better.

 

Budget could be lesser depending on u & wat kinda support u could gather,be it from a motorcycling industry or others.Crashing & bike failure are part of racing & these will incurred more cost on ur budget.So having pre-planning on these will saves cost..

Goodluck & all the best.

 

Regards.

Edited March 15, 2011 by rein_jahat14
typo

[h3llfire]

so "IF" join BRS and win the race will sponsor come n look for u or u have to find urself? and wat to extend can those sponsors sponsor u?

 

yes what i would to know is the pre-plan of racers like u.

[rein_jahat14]

BRS is not a Prime Race series where sponsor's have enough viewership.

-No spectators no marketing value.

-No Newspaper,TV coverage,magazine..etc

 

Competitors participation are low,No attractive competition/racing to watch.

This show the seriousness or wat i mean exclusivity of the series.(NO better than juz a normal PG trackday 5-lap race)

Compare to Malaysia Cub-prix,MSS or ARRC..

 

Sponsorship approaching riders will probably come someday to BRS participation,

When the event have:-

-Better promotion of event or better Race promoter

-Exposure or Awareness of event to masses be it bike community or beyond

-Better or more competitors participation in most category

-Event venue(maybe when Singapore Circuit) but if PG better event programme focus on Singapore races only with involvement of more Singaporean's.

 

There could be more but this is wat i felt that is short at the moment.

 

But for now if U do gain sponsorship,Work with them wat is possible to aid u for ur races.

Be it race parts,misc like oils,chains,tires..etc or if possible cash..

Goodluck.

[NoFishesAllowed]

the "standards" are normally a full system and PC which actually is more then enough as none of us actually exploit the full potential of our superbike.

 

 

how much is this on est?

[personified]

yes rein got it spot on about my suggestion on getting a shop that have involvment in motorsports.I totally agree with him of going for trackdays to gain familiarity n exp of the track.

however on the part of BRS races, SMSA have to be linent on qualifying times and even MSS (with the appeal letter but dont think they practise that anymore)

reason being almost all riders are paying for their race therefore if they follow the standards of within 1.7% of fastest qualifying time,many would not qualify and therefore many would not want to race which would mean a dip in their business earnings,Asia Pac differs as they are of a higher level and leaning close to being a full pledge international race.

Motorsports is a business,like any other business,it have to generate money and good exposure before sponsors step in.MSS, BRS being held in Malaysia cannot get the attention of our local public (also due to poor media coverage) therefore it doesnt justify local bike comapnies to pour money into such venture.

I wont go into this indepth as its speaking out of context.

 

back to yr TS point..NO! we dont earn 10k a month but i know some who do..

i give u a costing of racing in BRS (1 day event)

$100 per race

$100-$150 towing bike (to & fro)

$80 misc ,food,toll,gas etc etc

 

costing MSS (3days event)

RM$175(friday practise n testing)

RM$500 per race

RM$950 for Pirellis SC2 (controlled tyres) and normally 2 sets are being used for the weekend

Towing SGP$300 est (to & fro )

other misc still not incl like accomadation,food,gas,etc etc

 

there are many Spore riders in MSS but with different perspective... some will give their best to match the Malaysian Petronas and Thailand AP Honda team

and some are there for generating business..

[h3llfire]

BRS is not a Prime Race series where sponsor's have enough viewership.

-No spectators no marketing value.

-No Newspaper,TV coverage,magazine..etc

 

Competitors participation are low,No attractive competition/racing to watch.

This show the seriousness or wat i mean exclusivity of the series.(NO better than juz a normal PG trackday 5-lap race)

Compare to Malaysia Cub-prix,MSS or ARRC..

 

Sponsorship approaching riders will probably come someday to BRS participation,

When the event have:-

-Better promotion of event or better Race promoter

-Exposure or Awareness of event to masses be it bike community or beyond

-Better or more competitors participation in most category

-Event venue(maybe when Singapore Circuit) but if PG better event programme focus on Singapore races only with involvement of more Singaporean's.

 

There could be more but this is wat i felt that is short at the moment.

 

But for now if U do gain sponsorship,Work with them wat is possible to aid u for ur races.

Be it race parts,misc like oils,chains,tires..etc or if possible cash..

Goodluck.

 

do u mind sharing ur experience and the path that you have gone through??

 

 

the "standards" are normally a full system and PC which actually is more then enough as none of us actually exploit the full potential of our superbike.

 

 

how much is this on est?

 

ard 2k for a illegal full system and a power commander plus dyno, for 2nd hand u can get cheaper.

[personified]

the "standards" are normally a full system and PC which actually is more then enough as none of us actually exploit the full potential of our superbike.

 

 

how much is this on est?

 

it can varies depending on what u actually set yer mind on but i figure $3k as the minimum

A full race system can be yours for 2k plus and a PC for around $600 plus (minus options)

or u can go crazy and get a full titanium corsa system at $4000 plus and a Bazzard at $1000 plus

oh I forgot to mention about suspension set up like Ohlins..that will set u back another $2000

DAMN ! now u got me calculating...this racing thingy is expensive!!! I sud consider quitting... :P

[h3llfire]

yes rein got it spot on about my suggestion on getting a shop that have involvment in motorsports.I totally agree with him of going for trackdays to gain familiarity n exp of the track.

however on the part of BRS races, SMSA have to be linent on qualifying times and even MSS (with the appeal letter but dont think they practise that anymore)

reason being almost all riders are paying for their race therefore if they follow the standards of within 1.7% of fastest qualifying time,many would not qualify and therefore many would not want to race which would mean a dip in their business earnings,Asia Pac differs as they are of a higher level and leaning close to being a full pledge international race.

Motorsports is a business,like any other business,it have to generate money and good exposure before sponsors step in.MSS, BRS being held in Malaysia cannot get the attention of our local public (also due to poor media coverage) therefore it doesnt justify local bike comapnies to pour money into such venture.

I wont go into this indepth as its speaking out of context.

 

back to yr TS point..NO! we dont earn 10k a month but i know some who do..

i give u a costing of racing in BRS (1 day event)

$100 per race

$100-$150 towing bike (to & fro)

$80 misc ,food,toll,gas etc etc

 

costing MSS (3days event)

RM$175(friday practise n testing)

RM$500 per race

RM$950 for Pirellis SC2 (controlled tyres) and normally 2 sets are being used for the weekend

Towing SGP$300 est (to & fro )

other misc still not incl like accomadation,food,gas,etc etc

 

there are many Spore riders in MSS but with different perspective... some will give their best to match the Malaysian Petronas and Thailand AP Honda team

and some are there for generating business..

 

for asia pac does it cost even more??

 

from what u stated, i think most of the money is spend on tires and TOWING!! do u guys have ur own transportation??

 

from what extend can singapore sponsors do for their racers?? i know that they dont sponsor bike for their racer maybe only some miscellaneous items.

 

btw, do u mind sharing ur experience and the path u take also??

[NoFishesAllowed]

WTH!!! still got leathers and good helmets riding boots gloves! damn its gonna cost a real bomb!

 

btw.. wad do all these power commanders and pc actually do?

overwrite powercut onli? in tt case a haya can outrun tp bike le?

[h3llfire]

it can varies depending on what u actually set yer mind on but i figure $3k as the minimum

A full race system can be yours for 2k plus and a PC for around $600 plus (minus options)

or u can go crazy and get a full titanium corsa system at $4000 plus and a Bazzard at $1000 plus

oh I forgot to mention about suspension set up like Ohlins..that will set u back another $2000

DAMN ! now u got me calculating...this racing thingy is expensive!!! I sud consider quitting... :P

 

lol. u might need a brembo master brake pump as well, ebc brakepad, ohlins damper, air filter, race rearset, brake hose, maybe a brembo monoblock?? after market rim?? shorty lever. braking disc plate. quickshift module, racing switch mode. spare set of fairing. as for racing u will need a pair of padlock stands, tire warmer!! that is super alot of money u will need to throw in to make it a full race bike. price not including every tuning, every workmanship and every suspension tuning. total = GG.

 

nofish: nope i dun think pc can take out powercut. it will help to get ur bike to be more responsive and tune the firing, air intake and fuel intake, exhaust to be a more balance state. u will need this only when u change full system exhaust.

 

as for my plan for a budget 1. first mod will be brake hose. change brake pad. get a race fairing. buy slider and change a rearset. after that then will go for full system with pc and air filter. then etc etc... u wouldnt wan to fall on ur aftermaket exhaust man. that is damn exp!. lol

[personified]

lol. u might need a brembo master brake pump as well, ebc brakepad, ohlins damper, air filter, race rearset, brake hose, maybe a brembo monoblock?? after market rim?? shorty lever. braking disc plate. quickshift module, racing switch mode. spare set of fairing. as for racing u will need a pair of padlock stands, tire warmer!! that is super alot of money u will need to throw in to make it a full race bike. price not including every tuning, every workmanship and every suspension tuning. total = GG.

 

nofish: nope i dun think pc can take out powercut. it will help to get ur bike to be more responsive and tune the firing, air intake and fuel intake, exhaust to be a more balance state. u will need this only when u change full system exhaust.

 

as for my plan for a budget 1. first mod will be brake hose. change brake pad. get a race fairing. buy slider and change a rearset. after that then will go for full system with pc and air filter. then etc etc... u wouldnt wan to fall on ur aftermaket exhaust man. that is damn exp!. lol

 

brake hose,brake pads,sliders,rearset,air filter, protection for yr exhaust in case of fall..can look for me.. :P

[NoFishesAllowed]

what kinda bikes are not allowed on the track? and what is allowed?