U want to know what the PAP did to our national education, here read this!

[XclandestineX]

from: http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2663008I

though i am very against the influx of FTs, i still treat them like a fellow being and have never look at them with a different perspective.

i was having lunch with a PRC colleague. shes a 24yr old gal who just graduated from NTU and now working in a MNC while waiting for PR approval.

 

just started a casual topic like, wad do u like about this country and how are u coping

so we get the standard reply. wad stuns me, was the answer to my next question.

 

 

me: " so wad makes u decide to come here"

 

PRC: " i didnt"

 

me: " wa, ur parents force u here or ur bf is here"

 

PRC: "neither, ur SG gahment invited us here"

 

me: " huh, wad do u mean"

 

PRC: " ur MOE went to our school in our village and told us they URGENTLY need students here, infact they were hardselling the whole scheme and many of us signed up"

 

me: " huh, wad did they offer"

 

PRC: " they offer us, ALL Expenses paid for our fees in NTU, including lodging and we even get pocket money"

 

me: *mouth open

 

PRC: "on top of that, they have send me the INVITATION letter to apply for PR after we grad"

 

 

i seriously begin to wonder the magitude of the FT problem has many more sides that many of us do not know,

 

i lose my pride as a sgporean after hearing this and i really wonder do they really care ?

 

if u give a PR who starts a business here and bring jobs to sgporeans, by all means.

 

BUT if u choose to so-call groom a FT and seemingly used up tax payers money to fund it, i totally do not understand the reason why.

 

my guess is, they bring in more FTs, give them the candy and they bring in more FTs, which i belive is working because she told her friends about this scheme and many of her friends are here now, at the expenses of home-grown sgporeans.

 

i myself was deprived the chance of studying in a local U.

but yet a villager from a faraway land with no visible society contributions gets the chance of studying here, all expenses PAID.

 

are we really worth this much to the gahment ?

is it really we got not enough pple here to study in NTU ? then why are they rejecting sgporeans who meet the pre-requisites ?

 

The NUS & NTU can reject we native sg ppl's application and then pay money

for foreingners come over to sg for free and give them PR summore!

The PAP has made singaporeans mostly diploma and ite cert holder only so can become low class WORKERS and work for bosses from PRC, PINOY and INDIA

 

:mad: :mad:

[welly]

read that today...im deeply saddened and shocked at the revelation.

[hydrop]

How come no other countries come here to invite us to their country? haa haa.

[thrasher]

cause we complain too much... too much kpkb

[XclandestineX]

http://www.temasekreview.com/2011/04/19/singapores-5-star-reception-for-ah-tiong-job-seekers-in-shanghai/

Singapore’s 5-Star reception for “Ah Tiong” job seekers in ShangHai

 

Singaporeans Netizens have expressed outrage following The Temasek Review’s (TR) report about the largest recruitment drive in Shanghai by Contact Singapore (a Singapore Government entity formed by the Singapore Economic Development Board and Ministry of Manpower – which aims to attract “global talent” to work, invest and live in Singapore).

 

Annoyed Netizens were questioning the need for Contact Singapore to visit Shanghai to recruit “talents” to fill those 200 over positions (on behalf of Singapore companies) when those positions could easily be filled by Singaporeans. It is not as if the companies were recruiting Nobel Laureates or top financial wizards.

 

Job seekers were mostly PRCs in their 20s

One of TR’s correspondent working in Shanghai volunteered to visit the fair which was held on Sunday, 17th April, from morning to noon. The morning session focused on the electronic industry while the afternoon focused on the service and finance industries.

 

According to our correspondent who went in the morning to catch the action, the fair was held in the grand ballroom of Langham Hotel which is an upmarket five-star hotel located at Xintiandi, an affluent shopping, eating and entertainment district of Shanghai.

 

He observed that most applicants were pre-registered. There were nine Singapore-based MNCs and Singapore local companies participating in the fair. Some of the participating companies included Panasonic Asia Pacific, MediaTek, UniConnect, DBS Bank, OCBC, UOB, Far East Organization and others.

 

Most of the companies were observed to have tables with staff manning and answering questions. Companies also took turns to give “recruitment talks” inside the auditorium.

 

So, is Contact Singapore trying to recruit overseas Singaporeans to come back home and fill those positions?

 

The room was packed with few hundred people

Our correspondent rebuked, “No. This fair is NOT to recruit Singaporeans. The room was packed. I reckoned there were few hundred applicants, mostly in their early twenties. All were Ah Tiongs (nickname for Chinese nationals) and I’m pretty sure I’m the only Singaporean, at least when I was there in the morning.”

 

The occasion was described as “grandiose”. There were free flow of refreshments served by waiters and waitresses, which irked our correspondent, “I wonder whether our government provides this type of five-star service to help our graduating students and out-of-job PMETs to get jobs or not?”

 

“Something is definitely very wrong with our policy. Why such efforts to recruit foreigners when most of these vacancies can be filled by Singaporeans?”, he added. “Furthermore, the five-star reception for the foreign job seekers really pissed me off. I am sure no such reception was ever extended to our own graduating students and unemployed PMETs. Who is paying for all these? Singapore taxpayers?”

 

He also questioned the purpose of Contact Singapore, “I thought Contact Singapore (funded by the taxpayers) is a platform for Singaporeans to keep in contact with Singapore and wanting to come back to work in Singapore. Why is it in the business of recruiting foreigners to work in Singapore?”

 

At a TV forum on 12 Apr, PM Lee said that the Government is controlling the inflow of foreigners and watching them “carefully” on their impact to Singapore.

 

Five days later, they decided to have the largest recruitment drive for foreigners in Shanghai. Looks like the Government still thinks Singapore does not have enough foreigners and we have room to import a lot more.

.

Richard

 

mari mari, lai lai more foreigner for us. Thanks PAP

[XclandestineX]

read that today...im deeply saddened and shocked at the revelation.

 

Yeah i am damn angry when i read this, n when i searched the net further, it is true that MOE and some other SG agencies

are going overseas to find students from other countries to come and study at NUS and NTU at our taxpayer's expenses!

[cougar]

Is it that president or finance minister holding the purse sleeping or in corhoots?

[XclandestineX]

Is it that president or finance minister holding the purse sleeping or in corhoots?

 

all out to sell away Singapore to foreigners lah!

Why the govn can go to some village in china and pick up these students, pay for their travel, lodgings,

give them allowance, pay for their tuition fees to study in NUS n NTU and even give them PR

but we native Singaporeans that wanna go NUS n NTU can kena reject even after already finished poly and pass 'A' levels???!!!!

 

So singaporean all become dip and ite cert holder so the PAP can use the excuse that

Singapore has not enuf talent??? The govn purposely make the ppl

become stupid. Instead of giving them opportunities to study, they give that opportunity to foreigners!

 

 

Seriously i am damn angry!

[cougar]

Looks like we are collecting foreign thrash for china. Finding gold among the thrash is a waste of time and resources. True talent would not want to be Singaporeans looking at our plight.

[StoopStool]

What the fiak...

 

Im really wondering if that is true.

Sighs. I am from one of the local polytechnic, graduated with a diploma with merit. Applied for NTU, but still no responds from them, no offer nor rejection.

 

Here we are struggling in this paper country. Technically "renting" homes for 30-40years.

There they are, building bungalows back home with our papers.

 

Hope its not true.

[XclandestineX]

What the fiak...

 

Im really wondering if that is true.

Sighs. I am from one of the local polytechnic, graduated with a diploma with merit. Applied for NTU, but still no responds from them, no offer nor rejection.

 

Here we are struggling in this paper country. Technically "renting" homes for 30-40years.

There they are, building bungalows back home with our papers.

 

Hope its not true.

 

oh go do a search on MOE and MOM's recruitment overseas and u will be surprised.

I hope its not true too but yes they are holding major recruitment drives overseas, even my SG frens in overseas are telling me this.

[Silent Hunter]

No wonder that month got the "I LOVE SINGAPORE DAY" in Shanghai....

[XclandestineX]

Foreign Students inundate NUS recruitment talks

From: http://kentridgecommon.com/?p=7643

 

 

WRITTEN BY Christopher Ong on Sep 7, 2010

 

Happening presently at The National University of Singapore (NUS), the recruitment talks organized by the Career Center is aimed at penultimate or final year students who have an interest in joining the graduate programs of companies such as Morgan Stanley, HSBC, Ogivly & Mather or Unilever, among many others, upon their graduation.

 

In the recruitment talks of banking companies, in particular, foreign students currently studying in NUS from China and India inundate the auditoriums and lecture halls where these hiring drives are held in the evening.

 

In the recent drive organized by The Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) for example, some Chinese students were seen rushing to collect more extra freebies — of which included a 2GB RBS Thumbdrive — upon registration for the talk. Some of them were turned away by the receptionist from RBS at the talk, who insisted that each registrant may only collect 1 thumbdrive each.

 

These pro-active foreign students came relatively much more prepared for these recruitment talks than local Singaporeans, some who arrived as late as half an hour into the talk. Other than expressing a go-getter attitude, whether it’s a rush to grab the best seats in the auditorium or to prepare enough research to field questions during the Q&A segment, the foreign students were at least manifestly much more eager to grab places in the graduate program than the Singaporean students.

 

At the recruitment drive of Swiss investment bank UBS for example, some 8 out of 9 students who fielded questions during the Q&A segment were either students from China or India. Impressing the select panel of executives from the company with their deeply researched and pertinent questions, one Chinese student who is certain that he will be a “rich fund manager in 5 years time” even impressed UBS equities executive Joseph Chia so much that Mr. Chia suggested that he might be his client in the years to come.

 

At the networking session occurring after these recruitment talks, where students and executives from these companies freely mingle around a catered buffet spread, more Singaporean students were seen leaving early and did not socialize as much with the executives as did the foreign students.

 

For J, a former classmate of mine who recently graduated from the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences, the disproportionate ratio of foreign and local students at these talks not only meant a stronger competition for select and limited places at these graduate programs, but also a stern wake-up call.

 

“I’ve graduated with what you can call a toilet paper degree.”

 

“The chances of me getting into these graduate programs are already low from the start. Together with competition with these Chinese and Indian foreign students with first or second-upper class honors, how do you think I will fare?”

Still, it may not be a bad thing.

 

“Haiyah, Singapore is a meritocracy. I should stop whining about the large influx of foreign students in the recruitment talks, and maybe think of ways to fight or outwit them at the interviews.”

 

Why does he think that the recruitment talks are inundated with foreign students?

 

“It’s because if they don’t secure a job here when their student visas expire, it will be much harder for them to look for a job and stay in Singapore.”

 

“It’s either they find a job here or face the prospect of a much lower paying job back home.”

 

What sort of advantages does a Singaporean student have over these foreign students?

 

“It’s surely our English. We speak without their accent and are much more fluent in it.”

 

Already, fangs and claws are showing in a dog-eat-dog battle to enter into the corporate world, where ‘better’ only functions as a relative word — I can only be better if you perform poorer than me.

 

In this world whereby merit and performance is the only true barometer of success, perhaps the Singaporean student has much to benefit from the foreign student.

 

In an alternate perspective, rather than arguing that they provide extra competition for places, perhaps there is much to thank for this learning experience.

 

Should more to be done? Must protectionism be ensured to give Singaporeans the priority in job placements?

Such a question definitely remains open.

 

See the above what is happening at our Unis

[cougar]

What i read is 3rd world students all too many and overwhelmingly outnumber local students. They have drive for success, local students lack the foresight for such drive, probably because of 2.5 years in the slack army made us dumb momentarily.

[XclandestineX]

What i read is 3rd world students all too many and overwhelmingly outnumber local students. They have drive for success, local students lack the foresight for such drive, probably because of 2.5 years in the slack army made us dumb momentarily.

 

2.5 years of our most precious youth in obedience school(NS) has sucked out any rebellion, drive, passion or creativity out of most of us.

 

N now these foreign majority is marginalising all of us with their competition. If the PAP wins big time I seriously have to consider leaving SG n resttle somewhere else. N really give up on my fellow singaporeans.

 

It does not matter that i will end up as a minority over in a new place cos i do not want to be a minority in MY OWN COUNTRY!

[hydrop]

So sad, was not expecting Potong pasir and joo chiat to loose....

 

This might be the last time we will see these 2 smc....confirm next time kena intergrated into a GRC one.

[bukitmerah]

i think its a fantastic result.

 

wateva all the anti-pap talk, my personal opinion is at this point in singapore's history, we LL must let them remain in power because as good as the oppos have shown themselves this year, they need further growth before they can bring the hammer down on pap. i wasn fully convinced of the oppos this year, but they made me think and consider my vote longer than they ever did in the past.

 

and now there is a small but very significant opposition presence in parliament. significant because its a grc, significant because they are electec rather than ncmp, and most important, significant because they are all wp. its a united oppo team, so less chance of in-fighting like we saw in the run-up to elections. oppo need to fight pap, not each other. and with this breakthru, they have the potential for real growth in coming years.

 

so oppo now has real power, however small it is for now. and pap need to watch their back and make changes if they want people to be more convinced of them rather than oppo. and all at the same time while our governance remains stable and credible.

 

maybe ten to twenty years from now, we will look back and recognize today as either the birth of an alternative government, or the day PAP make sweeping changes to the way they govern. thats why i say, yesterday results are fantastic overall for singapore.

 

my 2 cents,

 

i hope singaporeans WAKE UP...

 

1) PAP had ALWAYS won with more than 60% of the votes in every election. UNLESS they get a wake-up call of only 55% narrow margin, they will JUST DO WHAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE ALL THESE YEARS...ie. PRETEND TO CHANGE FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS...AFTER THAT BACK TO SQUARE ROOT OF 1. Don't you remember how a certain PAP candidate promise NOT TO INCREASE PRICES FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS in the market but with rentals still increased, use your common sense & think what comes after the 6 months? THE NEXT 4 YEARS? you only need IQ of 100 to figure it out. expect RELATIVELY "humble" behaviour FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS...ENJOY THE HONEYMOON BUT AFTER THAT THE NEXT 4 YEARS OF MORE OF THE SAME ****!

 

2) Parliament can go ahead with anything as long as get 2/3 MAJORITY. with total 87 seats, even if we have 28 opposition MPs voted in, PAP can still go ahead with whatever they want to do. However, they will probably dare not take too much risks for fear of losing 2/3 majority the next election. BUT WITH ONLY 6 WP MPs to oppose ???

it is just a mere background noise to PAP. PAP had offered to give 9 NCMP SEATS FREE to the people. What does this imply? EVEN WITH 9 , THEY ALSO BO CHAP !

 

ONLY 6 ??? JUST NOISE... HAHAHA...ok LHL will "cry" & say "sorry" but still go ahead, you LPPL. recall the "wayang" casino debate after 2006 elections?

 

SINGAPOREANS NEVER LEARN ???

 

3) we must all thanks Tampines voters for their faithfulness to MBT in 1988, 1991, 2001, 2006, 2011. TAMPINES HAD 5 CHANCES BUT STILL WE HAVE MBT. MBT is born in 1948 so he will be 68 in 2016. maybe he will retire by then. SO you really expect HIM TO REPENT & CHANGE WHEN HE MAY NEVER NEED TO STAND FOR ELECTION AGAIN?

 

did MBT CHANGE AFTER 2001? DID HE CHANGE AFTER HIS MARGIN FELL AFTER 2006? Tampines estate mus be such a nice place to sleep that after more than 10 years / no 23 years, voters still DREAMING ???

 

even East Coast / Joo Chiat / Marine Parade ( HOUGANG / ALJUNIED / JOO CHIAT / POTONG PASIR etc ) voters got more BACKBONE. EVEN Bishan-Toa Payoh was ONLY 1ST TIME VOTING.

 

TAMPINES VOTERS GOT NO EXCUSES. THEY HAD 5 CHANCES ! 1988,1991,2001,2006,2011! enough said don't tell me that there is OPIUM on the air in Tampines...

 

all the years of school BUT STILL NO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE BS !

REALLY "RICE-BIN" ! ( Mandarin / hokkien / cantonese ).

Edited May 8, 2011 by bukitmerah
typos

[samurai8410]

lot of old people scared to change the pap lar! thats y. i had enuff of it. time for a change but now, yet again.............. same old complaining life

[cougar]

What can we boycott to get TPL out of parliament? That one another waste of tax payers money, flush down the toilet better than paying her leh.

[cougar]

@bukitmerah, this only proves alot of civil servants lives in tampines lor. All our rice bins, 饭桶 are there.

[AliDavidSum]

lot of old people scared to change the pap lar! thats y. i had enuff of it. time for a change but now, yet again.............. same old complaining life

 

Sad to say, this is true with many old people. Many of them are near illiterature, and cant even use ATM.

 

They only know & remember PAP and no other party, after being ferried to see many lightning strike a few days before.

 

Even when they are sick, many of them dare not seek help, and do not know what to do, except continue to take cartoons boxes & cans for garang Kuni.

 

Seriously, there is little we can do to change their mind.

[AliDavidSum]

What can we boycott to get TPL out of parliament? That one another waste of tax payers money, flush down the toilet better than paying her leh.

 

There is no way to boycott, and no use too. Many have tried with MBT, but failed.

 

FYI, NSP team with 2nd highest score was in MBT Tampines GRC. Best score team was Nicole's team in Marine Parable GRC contest.

 

SM Goh acknowledged that TPL is part of the reason that his Marine Parable GRC score low for the election. No surprise if she brings down Marine Parable GRC in near future.

 

Also, more forward looking MP like George Yeo, was voted out. His being voted out has put PAP backward by at least 2 steps.

 

These are 2 trouble signs for PAP. No hard to see that more troubles are on the way, especially when MM Lee is out of political 1 day, for whatever reasons. Remember, he is already 87 years old this year.

[paiseh]

how credible is the person's account? I am sure there are criterias to fulfill.

[deathmaster]

guys! its time to start psycho-ing your parents and grandparents.

 

Scold and accuse them of sabotaging your future, selling out the country.

 

That thanks to them, housing, work, income and healthcare is getting unaffordable.

 

Tell that unless they do something about it, they are on their own.

 

Tell them that out of 6 things below, you can only afford 4, thanks to the PAP. Ask them to choose which 4.

1) Housing

2) Personal Healthcare

3) Personal retirement

4) Children

5) Maintanence of parents

6) Parents' healthcare

[samurai8410]

Sad to say, this is true with many old people. Many of them are near illiterature, and cant even use ATM.

 

They only know & remember PAP and no other party, after being ferried to see many lightning strike a few days before.

 

Even when they are sick, many of them dare not seek help, and do not know what to do, except continue to take cartoons boxes & cans for garang Kuni.

 

Seriously, there is little we can do to change their mind.

 

1 THING i know how it wilol change their mind forever. get a real lightning strike since they love it so much!