SBF Burgmans Cafe 2008 - K1 to K7

[MaIkEr]

Hi bro, noticed your avatar pic you have the additional wind deflectors installed? Don't mind sharing where you got them from?

 

see http://www.doken.biz/scooter/index.html

 

ordered 2 pair. still have a spare pair at home.

 

yup. the same type and another kind. i bought 2 different types.

 

i am a ready buyer if u dont want them ok.

 

anyone organising meetup? keen but i am a lousy organiser...

[william_liu]

MaIkEr: I see! So how's your impressions after installing? Pros and cons?

[Arcfire]

see http://www.doken.biz/scooter/index.html

 

ordered 2 pair. still have a spare pair at home.

 

 

 

i am a ready buyer if u dont want them ok.

 

anyone organising meetup? keen but i am a lousy organiser...

 

Wah, how much did you pay for them?

[Keynes]

i service my burger 650 at Future Scootering. look for ah chong. i trust him cos i've seem him overhaul my and another 650 before. he quite know this bike inside out.

 

I find it very difficult to pump the air on the front tyre because of the double brake disc, anywhere to get a 90 deg adpator for front tyre, same as those car ones?

[adr77]

I find it very difficult to pump the air on the front tyre because of the double brake disc, anywhere to get a 90 deg adpator for front tyre, same as those car ones?

 

got mine at racewerks, cheaper one cost $7 (Steel) exp one cost $38 (Aluminum).

[MaIkEr]

MaIkEr: I see! So how's your impressions after installing? Pros and cons?

 

Pro- shoes not so wet when raining, less turbulence around leg area, looks nicer due to the carbon fiber print. 1 and only leh!!

con- needs some getting use to, side wind more noticable...

 

Wah, how much did you pay for them?

 

$250 include gst/tax! Bought on impulse for the phuket bike week but didnt arrive in time... luckily havent regret yet.

[Keynes]

Hi, bros,

 

I have 2 tech qns on B650, hope you can enlighten:-

 

1) In the manual, we must change engine oil every 6000 km and tx oil every 12,000 km. Is the enigne oil and tx oil the same? Manual states eng oil must be SJ/SM multi-grade oil, but doesn't mention SJ/SM grade for tx oil(just multi-grade). I understand that the eng oil and tx oil do get to mix with one another as there is some connecting pipe between them, so does that mean we must use the same grade of oil for eng and tx, even though the manual is not particular on tx oil?

 

2) in the BurgmanUSA forum, it was mentioned that B650 speedometer indicates about 10% higher than actual speed. Will this affect the odometer too? I know that for those dial type manual sppedometer, the speedo is related to the odo, so a 10% inaccuracy in sppedo will mean a 10% inaccuracy in odometer too, but not sure for this digital type, any bro has done checks before?

 

Thanks in advance.

[thatone1]

hi guys... just need to ask some questions, recently i went to asp and asked for a 400 cc scooter and they told me that they have a FW plate burgman400 selling for 3.8K .. is it worth it?

[thatone1]

Saw 1 Burgman400 @ ASPoon Serangoon 2day. FY plate so bout 4yrs old, if I'm not mistaken selling at $3.8K.

i think is this bike though .. is it worth it? and why is the price so low..

 

looks suspicious though..

[ah_huats]

Well, Burgman resale value is not that good in the first place ...

[patriots]

Well, Burgman resale value is not that good in the first place ...

 

Any upgrades coming up ..?

[ah_huats]

Simi Grade ?

[chivas]

just collected my burg this afternoon. shiok.

but i think my idiling abit high.. abt 2k rpm after warmup..

is it okie ???

or need to reduce it abit kekeke

[ah_huats]

after warmup ?

 

at most around 1.4 K for me.

[bigcow]

just collected my burg this afternoon. shiok.

but i think my idiling abit high.. abt 2k rpm after warmup..

is it okie ???

or need to reduce it abit kekeke

 

reduce it to 1k to 1.2k. btw, wat model u bought?

[bigcow]

Hi, bros,

 

I have 2 tech qns on B650, hope you can enlighten:-

 

1) In the manual, we must change engine oil every 6000 km and tx oil every 12,000 km. Is the enigne oil and tx oil the same? Manual states eng oil must be SJ/SM multi-grade oil, but doesn't mention SJ/SM grade for tx oil(just multi-grade). I understand that the eng oil and tx oil do get to mix with one another as there is some connecting pipe between them, so does that mean we must use the same grade of oil for eng and tx, even though the manual is not particular on tx oil?

 

2) in the BurgmanUSA forum, it was mentioned that B650 speedometer indicates about 10% higher than actual speed. Will this affect the odometer too? I know that for those dial type manual sppedometer, the speedo is related to the odo, so a 10% inaccuracy in sppedo will mean a 10% inaccuracy in odometer too, but not sure for this digital type, any bro has done checks before?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

just follow the user manual to use Grade SJ and above engine oil. remember to use 10W40. u can use the same engine oil for the TX oil. cos it'll be mix in the end. when the tx part dun have enough oil, the oil from the engine part will flow over. thus its important to check your engine oil through the glass window every 2000km.

as for our 650 meters, i've tested with t-max and silverwings before. ours tend to be higher by 5 km/hr to 10km/hr.

[patriots]

Simi Grade ?

 

Class 2 lo, considering this bike at Mah motor?

 

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[adr77]

Hi, bros,

 

I have 2 tech qns on B650, hope you can enlighten:-

 

1) In the manual, we must change engine oil every 6000 km and tx oil every 12,000 km. Is the enigne oil and tx oil the same? Manual states eng oil must be SJ/SM multi-grade oil, but doesn't mention SJ/SM grade for tx oil(just multi-grade). I understand that the eng oil and tx oil do get to mix with one another as there is some connecting pipe between them, so does that mean we must use the same grade of oil for eng and tx, even though the manual is not particular on tx oil?

 

2) in the BurgmanUSA forum, it was mentioned that B650 speedometer indicates about 10% higher than actual speed. Will this affect the odometer too? I know that for those dial type manual sppedometer, the speedo is related to the odo, so a 10% inaccuracy in sppedo will mean a 10% inaccuracy in odometer too, but not sure for this digital type, any bro has done checks before?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

1) just chg the eng oil n tx oil together, cos the tx oil will b well over the 360ml required mos of the time when i checked during oil chg (3 bottle jus nice). both use the same oil, impt issue is not to use energy conserving oil. I prefer 15W50 as using 10W40 burns more away for my case although it is more smoother but noisier.

 

2) not sure but if i do not rx any summon from TP by this wk, then it shld b true.

[Keynes]

its important to check your engine oil through the glass window every 2000km.

 

Must check ah, I tot there is an engine oil level indicator when the eninge oil level is low? Hee, I still haven't figure out where is the window yet!

[Keynes]

Hi bros, allow me to do a simple review of B650 after 2 weeks of riding.

 

1) Engine, Tx, aceleration, braking, stability, agility:

I feel that Suzuki still lags behind Honda in enigne refinement, I miss the sound of the silverwing engine, smooth as silk, if I can describe it this way, B650 sound rather loud when compare with silverwing. I hope that engine sound is not the indication of engine reliability!

 

Tx wise, Swing has a little lag (free play) when starting from rest (there is a time lag after you twist the trottle), while B650 has very little time lag (I attribute this I thk to Swing is belt driven while B5650 is gear driven?), I shan't compare power as they r of different cc. However when overtaking, Swing doesn't seem to "drop gear" but B650 I can feel a intentional "dropping of gear" to give the heavyweight a higher rpm.

 

Braking, the left brake lever of Swing is very effective (linked brake), as for B650, squeezing the left brake lever alone will not give you a satisfied braking power, u need to squeeze the right brake lever too, then u'll be amazed of its stopping distance, better than Swing (I attribute this to B650 dual disc front brake compared to Swing sing disc front brake).

 

Stability wise, B650 beats Swing hands down, (I attribute this to B650 engine is front mounted, weight is more to the front).

 

Agility wise, Swing is more agile, not only is Swing narrower, it's mirrors are higher (not same height as cars) as it has linked brake, so you can hold left brake levere and throttle as the same time, giving u more precise control at low speed lane-splitting.

 

Comfort, Utility user-friendiness

Comfortwise, Swing has soft suspension, even if I adjust the rear suspension to 5, it is still soft coampared to B650 (in fact, when both are new, a setting of "5" of Swing is equivalent to a setting "2" of B650).

 

utiliy wise, although both are 55litre storage, but B650 is easier to put things, the opening is bigger.

 

I'll talk about more next time.

 

Comments, please.

[chivas]

reduce it to 1k to 1.2k. btw, wat model u bought?

 

mine is a K3 kekeke..

will try to reduce the idiling speed by DIYing...

cheers

[chivas]

Hi bros, just to check where is the stocklist for Suzuki bikes???

Only Guan Hoe or that is another place???

need to get some stuffs kekeke

[ah_huats]

Class 2 lo, considering this bike at Mah motor?

 

 

Boss, I'm just a poor worker leh how to afford such a bike.

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

Hi bros, allow me to do a simple review of B650 after 2 weeks of riding.

 

1) Engine, Tx, aceleration, braking, stability, agility:

I feel that Suzuki still lags behind Honda in enigne refinement, I miss the sound of the silverwing engine, smooth as silk, if I can describe it this way, B650 sound rather loud when compare with silverwing. I hope that engine sound is not the indication of engine reliability!

 

Tx wise, Swing has a little lag (free play) when starting from rest (there is a time lag after you twist the trottle), while B650 has very little time lag (I attribute this I thk to Swing is belt driven while B5650 is gear driven?), I shan't compare power as they r of different cc. However when overtaking, Swing doesn't seem to "drop gear" but B650 I can feel a intentional "dropping of gear" to give the heavyweight a higher rpm.

 

Braking, the left brake lever of Swing is very effective (linked brake), as for B650, squeezing the left brake lever alone will not give you a satisfied braking power, u need to squeeze the right brake lever too, then u'll be amazed of its stopping distance, better than Swing (I attribute this to B650 dual disc front brake compared to Swing sing disc front brake).

 

Stability wise, B650 beats Swing hands down, (I attribute this to B650 engine is front mounted, weight is more to the front).

 

Agility wise, Swing is more agile, not only is Swing narrower, it's mirrors are higher (not same height as cars) as it has linked brake, so you can hold left brake levere and throttle as the same time, giving u more precise control at low speed lane-splitting.

 

Comfort, Utility user-friendiness

Comfortwise, Swing has soft suspension, even if I adjust the rear suspension to 5, it is still soft coampared to B650 (in fact, when both are new, a setting of "5" of Swing is equivalent to a setting "2" of B650).

 

utiliy wise, although both are 55litre storage, but B650 is easier to put things, the opening is bigger.

 

I'll talk about more next time.

 

Comments, please.

 

so did you bought a new B650?

[bigcow]

so did you bought a new B650?

 

in the earlier posts, he did say he bought a 11 month old burger 650.