1000cc Bike Cornering technique

[apish88]

Im currently new to this big toys. Riding a sportsbike anw. So yeah different power when riding 1000cc bike compared to 150cc bike. What are the cornering techniques when riding a big cc bike ? Im not trying to play around in SG road. Understand the danger waiting. Just that i wanna learn the correct technique when cornering with this bike. Apparently i tried to go smooth during corners. But yeah sometimes wobble here and there. Maybe scared to open up throttle and stuff. Power diff compared to previous one. So yeah ... ANyone can share ???

 

A good experience biker to share ? Anyone ?

[apish88]

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[apish88]

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[Nabilfadhil]

Cornering bible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWH_QiXw5n4

[Idono]

Technique same. That link is good and do go practice on track

[Jengo]

1. look far

2. breathe in

3. bank in

4. corner hard n make sure u scrap elbow

[mechwira]

i also jumped from a 150cc straight onto a class 2 sports.

 

the fact is, the wobbling you experience is because your cornering not smooth, and your cornering not smooth because you not enough confidence, and you not enough confidence because you are not used to how much power your throttling hand is now controlling. my guess is typically you enter a corner, you find the bike too fast, or you just want to 'tighten' your cornering line with a reduction in speed, then you end up closing the throttle or bringing it down to near closed position. then you want to speed up, you abruptly open throttle, or your throttling position is just above the 'closed' position. both these cause the engine to deliver the power in 'spurts', which is where the wobble comes from. then when the wobble comes you instinctively close or reduce throttle and the whole process repeats itself.

 

this is my analysis of my own 'wobble' in my early days of class 2. if you feel its the same for you, practice the following:

 

1) the correct throttling through a corner is to enter the corner with your rpm at about half-range. actually, it should be peak torque which is about three-quarter rpm, but doing so on class2 sportsbike the speed is so fast that i personally dont dare on the road, i only ever do on track. but anything below half-rpm, your bike is underpowered to go through the corner.

 

2) you can either keep your throttle constant through the corner, or do the "more correct" method of very gently opening the throttle through the turn. but reducing, or worse still shutting off, your throtte in the middle of the turn is a no-no. if you find yourself too fast and no choice must drop throttle, you have misjudged your cornering entry speed. this starts the wobble. you can try recovering smoothly by using brakes while maintaining throttle, which is the correct smooth recovery method, but you run the very real risk of low or high siding.

 

3) look as far into the turn as you possibly can, and just as the road start to straighten you can upright and feed more throttle. no need to 'hang off' like gp racer, for road riding better you grip tank hard with your thigh and relax arms.

 

 

fact is, the above is true for all bikes even 2b. just that the speed, weight and power of class2 amplifies the 'feel', but is in fact far more stable than 2b when done correctly.

 

 

may i also humbly suggest you try the following:

 

find a quiet straight stretch of road. cruise your bike at 40-50kmh. then, very very gently and slightly push your left handlebar forward as if you want the bike to face to the right. if you have never done this before or never fully understood the concept of counter-steering, you will be shocked to find the bike tilting leftwards and wanting to turn left. but once you actually feel this effect of counter-steering, it opens up a new understanding of how to actually steer the bike using handlebar.

[CSV]

yeah, only way to turn a bike is through counter steering. works all the time. so said Keith Code.

 

the most useful tips for me was looking as far into corners as possible. don't fixate on a fixed point, look far and through the corner.

 

I tried it with and without looking far and it made a very big difference in my cornering abilities. even normal U turns, you can practice this. Look at the parrallel strip of road you are U turning to instead of the apex of the U-turn.

[mechwira]

yeah, only way to turn a bike is through counter steering. works all the time. so said Keith Code.

 

actually i think the issue is not whether it works all the time or not. the issue is that in terms of physics, counter-steering is the only way to turn a bike. the problem is that majority of bikers all around the world do it only subconsciously and intuitively while believing that they're actually using their body weight to make the turn, which is completely false.

[kifakw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pocXYyHCuw

 

watch the video and it'd tell you alot about cornering!

[CSV]

actually i think the issue is not whether it works all the time or not. the issue is that in terms of physics, counter-steering is the only way to turn a bike. the problem is that majority of bikers all around the world do it only subconsciously and intuitively while believing that they're actually using their body weight to make the turn, which is completely false.

 

haha yeah, i get your point.

 

i watched the dvd by Keith Code, Twist of the Wrist 2. he demonstrated that body steering does not work, leaning does not work. only counter steering turns the bike effectively.

 

I'm still trying to get rid of the 9 Survival Reactions though. I find myself fixating targets sometimes.

[captain_des]

just make sure your tires are already warmed up, else whatever technique will also make you kiss the tarmac

[Hydher]

I agree. Tires makes alot of difference. Make sure your tires are warmed up. My take would be the michelin powers for street if you like the occasional twisties. Make sure your rear tyre profile is the 190/55 and not the 190/50 or 180/55.

[DeusExMachina]

I agree. Tires makes alot of difference. Make sure your tires are warmed up. My take would be the michelin powers for street if you like the occasional twisties. Make sure your rear tyre profile is the 190/55 and not the 190/50 or 180/55.

 

180/55 and 190/55 have the same profile. Just that they're made for diff rim sizes. 6 inches vs 5.5 inches.

[yatan73-regok]

YouTube twist throttle will help you

[Hydher]

180/55 and 190/55 have the same profile. Just that they're made for diff rim sizes. 6 inches vs 5.5 inches.

 

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachments/superbikes/83760d1296158074-190-55-17-5-5-rear-146-0302-tire5-01-zoom.jpg

 

Im on a gsxr 1000 i believe its a 6 inch rim as most 1L bikes.

When i took over the bike, it has a 180/55 tire and it concerned me because manual states to use a 190/50.

I Read exhaustively on gsxr.com. and gixxer.com

 

6 inch rims can fit the 190/55, 190/50 and 180/55.

 

They all recommend highly the 190/55 to none.

Of course, different brand makers have different contours on the tires too.

 

Im a newbie and still learning.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

[Sean]

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachments/superbikes/83760d1296158074-190-55-17-5-5-rear-146-0302-tire5-01-zoom.jpg

 

Im on a gsxr 1000 i believe its a 6 inch rim as most 1L bikes.

When i took over the bike, it has a 180/55 tire and it concerned me because manual states to use a 190/50.

I Read exhaustively on gsxr.com. and gixxer.com

 

6 inch rims can fit the 190/55, 190/50 and 180/55.

 

They all recommend highly the 190/55 to none.

Of course, different brand makers have different contours on the tires too.

 

Im a newbie and still learning.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

 

190/50 is the default tire size but b4 190/55 is available market previously, ppl like to use 180/55 on the track instead as it has sharper profile and can turn more easily as compare to 190/50 and its cheaper too..

[phelan77]

Im currently new to this big toys. Riding a sportsbike anw. So yeah different power when riding 1000cc bike compared to 150cc bike. What are the cornering techniques when riding a big cc bike ? Im not trying to play around in SG road. Understand the danger waiting. Just that i wanna learn the correct technique when cornering with this bike. Apparently i tried to go smooth during corners. But yeah sometimes wobble here and there. Maybe scared to open up throttle and stuff. Power diff compared to previous one. So yeah ... ANyone can share ???

 

A good experience biker to share ? Anyone ?

 

First step should be to send your bike to a reliable bikeshop and get your basic suspension setup for your weight.........

[phelan77]

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachments/superbikes/83760d1296158074-190-55-17-5-5-rear-146-0302-tire5-01-zoom.jpg

 

Im on a gsxr 1000 i believe its a 6 inch rim as most 1L bikes.

When i took over the bike, it has a 180/55 tire and it concerned me because manual states to use a 190/50.

I Read exhaustively on gsxr.com. and gixxer.com

 

6 inch rims can fit the 190/55, 190/50 and 180/55.

 

They all recommend highly the 190/55 to none.

Of course, different brand makers have different contours on the tires too.

 

Im a newbie and still learning.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

 

I'm running 190/55 for my K8 1k gixxer but its only used for track. If you want to maintain stock geometry then you need to drop your forks through the triples as the 55 series will jack up your rear.

[Hydher]

Thanks will keep that in mind