nagging suspicion

[Skunk]

my odo recently cleared 440,000km.....although it seems to be on the high side, but when divided by the age of the car (it was "born" in 1991), it's only 2000+km per month.

 

I see other cars of equal age having mileage of less than 200,000km.....got a nagging suspicion their meters were either tampered with or actually "clear meter" cars

 

any opinions about this?

 

cheers.

[archenemy]

well....i do 100km everyday on the average...

[Throttle]

Commonly done by dishonest car dealers and sometimes car owners.

 

dont just take things at face value as usual .

look and assess before buying.

 

i do only 1000km per month which means 12000km per year.

I understand that is half of a "low mileage" car usually advertised in the papers. So my car is super low mileage.

 

Anyone wants to buy a Super Low Mileage Volvo S40 2.4i (only one with Moonroof in Singapore) with 18" rims and sports tyres?

[who_noe]

Originally posted by Throttle@February 20, 2007 12:08 pm

Commonly done by dishonest car dealers and sometimes car owners.

 

dont just take things at face value as usual .

look and assess before buying.

 

i do only 1000km per month which means 12000km per year.

I understand that is half of a "low mileage" car usually advertised in the papers. So my car is super low mileage.

 

Anyone wants to buy a Super Low Mileage Volvo S40 2.4i (only one with Moonroof in Singapore) with 18" rims and sports tyres?

 

think the only low millages is the brand new cars but tat doesnt even guarantee tat it is a low millage car

[Skunk]

so in your opinions , is my mileage excessive?

[Enotsol]

Nope... I've just done 20+k in past 6 months

[Throttle]

Originally posted by Skunk@February 20, 2007 05:27 pm

so in your opinions , is my mileage excessive?

How about the frame and body panels?

Are they still in good condition after so many years ?

The engine may also be quite worked having done 440,000km

Be always prepared to do an overhaul.

[Skunk]

Originally posted by Throttle@February 20, 2007 09:07 pm

How about the frame and body panels?

Are they still in good condition after so many years ?

The engine may also be quite worked having done 440,000km

Be always prepared to do an overhaul.

mechanic checked.....frame no prob....but i can feel abit of "flex" when doing sharp corners....or isit the soft suspension? cant really tell, not a car expert. To me, it's just a vehicle keke.

 

yup...im prepared already...got the lobang for a totally renewed engine from US (where the nissan GA16DE engine is plentiful in their sentras and datsuns)...quite cheap....less than US$2K it's practically new actually.

 

any of your old cars ever had such mileage? actually more than a year ago i chose a car not based on mileage but on how well it seemed to be kept....because i tried others with lower mileage but in much more horrid condition.

 

to comfort myself, i always remember my friend's words, "if it can survive 440,000km, what's stopping it from going for 1 million?" kekeke.

[Enotsol]

Originally posted by Skunk@February 21, 2007 12:30 am

mechanic checked.....frame no prob....but i can feel abit of "flex" when doing sharp corners....or isit the soft suspension? cant really tell, not a car expert. To me, it's just a vehicle keke.

 

yup...im prepared already...got the lobang for a totally renewed engine from US (where the nissan GA16DE engine is plentiful in their sentras and datsuns)...quite cheap....less than US$2K it's practically new actually.

 

any of your old cars ever had such mileage? actually more than a year ago i chose a car not based on mileage but on how well it seemed to be kept....because i tried others with lower mileage but in much more horrid condition.

 

to comfort myself, i always remember my friend's words, "if it can survive 440,000km, what's stopping it from going for 1 million?" kekeke.

Body flex is something that occurs in all cars because metal is a ductile material. To reduce the effect, you can install anti-roll/sway bars etc to reinforce the chassis.

 

Changing the engine might require a lot of hassle in paperwork unless you intend to take your chances.

 

As long as the engine has been taken care of well and routinely checked, there's no reason why it will give up on you.

[Skunk]

Originally posted by Enotsol@February 21, 2007 08:10 am

Body flex is something that occurs in all cars because metal is a ductile material. To reduce the effect, you can install anti-roll/sway bars etc to reinforce the chassis.

 

Changing the engine might require a lot of hassle in paperwork unless you intend to take your chances.

 

As long as the engine has been taken care of well and routinely checked, there's no reason why it will give up on you.

ya, the things that die are like aircon fan circuitry....like wat happened to us on the way back from Sibu....hahaha and we still thought was kampong chicken cooking smell kekeke

[Throttle]

Originally posted by Skunk@February 21, 2007 12:30 am

any of your old cars ever had such mileage? actually more than a year ago i chose a car not based on mileage but on how well it seemed to be kept....because i tried others with lower mileage but in much more horrid condition.

 

to comfort myself, i always remember my friend's words, "if it can survive 440,000km, what's stopping it from going for 1 million?" kekeke.

Not really, my second cars all had mileage below 200,000km

 

but you are right to choose a car not just at mileage simply.

[Guest limpeiwah]

usually old car in singapore the market consumers dont look for mileage. usually just engine condition and chassis integrity.

[Guest limpeiwah]

btw wat car is yours maybe we all can help?

 

chassis flex is inherent in ALL cars. main thing is your car alignment. does it pull abruptly?

[Skunk]

Originally posted by limpeiwah@February 21, 2007 12:11 pm

usually old car in singapore the market consumers dont look for mileage. usually just engine condition and chassis integrity.

that's partly the point about the whole post....i suspect many 2nd hand cars had their odos manipulated....how to be so low?

 

my car's a 1991 Nissan Presea....when i was car-hunting a year ago, test drove an old ESi with odo 200,000km....waliao eh engine rotten like sh!t....impossible lah....it was a 1992 car...that means every month around 1200km only meh?

 

anyway, i read somewhere of a Saab owner in USA who drove the car until 999,999km without an engine breakdown at all (of course other minor parts got replace lah).....the car is now in a Saab museum and is used for publicity....and he was given a new car free.

 

if i ever hit 999,999km maybe i write to Nissan Corp kekeke just kiddin.

[Skunk]

Originally posted by limpeiwah@February 21, 2007 12:13 pm

btw wat car is yours maybe we all can help?

 

chassis flex is inherent in ALL cars. main thing is your car alignment. does it pull abruptly?

thanks for teaching me abt cars....driving for 1.5 years already n know nuts abt cars. Alignment seems ok....maybe just old bah keke

[Guest limpeiwah]

its not the mileage that kills engines! its the TYPE of driving. if city driving (VERY high stress) more often than not the owner will NOT increase the service intervals. This results in accelerated engine wear. so 200k kms for the dead honda engine is a possibility. typically the dealers dont clock the odometer. However a dead odometer might have been replaced by a newer, probably lower mileage odometer.

 

Basically for all COE cars, a budget of 3-5k is essential for a FULL rebuild of ALL the parts like engine lah, suspension lah, fuel injection/carburetors, lights, door motors, electrics etc. no easy way out unfortunately must just bite the bullet if u want to drive an old car.

[Guest limpeiwah]

no lah i also dun know so much but enough not to get cheated only. guys like us in SBF are sincere in helping out of interest and concern more than anything else. I basically hate to see pp kenna chop be it bikes/cars etc.

[archenemy]

ESIs a hit with boy racers who like to soup it up...

 

even if they cant beat the car they are trying to race...they would have floored the accelerator...

 

a rotten engine in a terrible state is not surprising...

[paiseh]

My family car, 1993 sunny. current mileage is 305,000km +++

 

while on my bike, i clock 28,000km+++ within 8 months

[paiseh]

Originally posted by archenemy@February 22, 2007 12:30 am

ESIs a hit with boy racers who like to soup it up...

 

even if they cant beat the car they are trying to race...they would have floored the accelerator...

 

a rotten engine in a terrible state is not surprising...

well, those civics in tat era get 167bhp stock.

 

recent civics all down tune already. they see no need for such high powered cars.

 

bike also going to down tune liao, till 800cc i tink for motor gp races

[Guest limpeiwah]

esi far from 167hp lah. 167hp is the b16 series engines on the VTI and subsequent sir.

[paiseh]

alamak, i also never say is esi. civic ma, can be:

 

Honda Civic Coupe SiR ,160 horsepower 1.6 litre DOHC 16 valve four cylinder engine