Is engine breaking harmful on our machine?

[immaSlow]

my engine seem to be screaming everytime i does it.

Does it cause faster wear and tear?

[Pplater]

Engine breaking does not harm your engine or clutch plates. It also does not cause faster wear and tear. Your bike is designed to be revved around the given rpm range. So long as you do not redline the engine rpm, it is fine.

 

Not using engine braking, however, makes your riding less safe because u lose a good source of braking power

[Isopropyl]

my engine seem to be screaming everytime i does it.

Does it cause faster wear and tear?

 

rider life VS machine life. hmm...

 

anyway, it fine to engine brake. it will shorten 2.5 hours of your clutch plates life:cheeky:

[Lighteden]

I am interested in this too, from what my friend said. Just don't do extreme engine braking and no damage will be done.

[Isopropyl]

I am interested in this too, from what my friend said. Just don't do extreme engine braking and no damage will be done.

 

as everything in life, every additional usage will cause some wear and tear. it a balance of things. in this context, the benefit outweight the cost. under normal condition, your clutch likely to outlast your ownership of the bike.

[Wayang]

yes, the engine is not a brake so dont use only engine braking to slow down the bike. use your front and rear brakes to slow down the bike then you downshift. too much engine brake will wear down the internals of the engine, brake pads are much cheaper then overhauling the engine.

[nbk3]

yes!! if ur engine break, ure screwed.

[ambrosia]

Is not harmful. As long as u don't drop too many gears and do hard extreme engine breaking which sometimes may cause Ur back tyre to spin especially on wet days.but do remember it does wear off Ur clutch plates more quicker. Nothing will happen to engine

 

 

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[ben1112]

The clutch plates are engaged during engine brake and there is no slip friction caused. There no wear on clutch in this period. During clutch in and half clutch transition is where friction is produced and cause wear. That said more wear might be caused if you clutch in but fail to fully disengaged the clutch to cruise to a stop. Besides if you do not use engine brake the disc brakes work harder. So you will actually put more wear trying to do the opposite.

 

4strokes are lubricated even during engine braking.

[SV650]

The driving center advocate use of engine brake while slowing down, ain't it? Use your engine brake together with your front & rear brakes.

 

I've done a lot of heavy engine brakes (i.e. drop gear & throw clutch). It keeps me alive and the bike still runs fine after 9 years of riding.

 

Do carry out your required bike maintenance diligently and donn't pinch on maintenance cost.

Edited January 3, 2013 by SV650

[frozenpenguins]

Yes engine breaking is harmful... It will render your ride useless....

 

Engine braking however... is not

[Pplater]

Agree with posts that benefits of engine braking outweights faster wear on clutch plates. To avoid engine braking to preserve clutch plates is like trying to avoid using the brakes to avoid wear on brake pads.

 

Sure. You can save money on clutch plates and brake pads by avoiding using them all together. Just put your feet down and and use boots to brake

[Limhg]

engine breaking sure spoil

[ezzyoiler]

well...if you dont exceed the red line rpm...it is ok..

 

eg...you are riding 9o km/hr at fifth gear,,,,the rpm is lets say 7000 rpm. and red line is 11000 rpm

suddenly you drop to 4th gear,,,rpm will shoot up...ut will rise very fast too..say goes to 9000rpm..as long as you free the throttle..the speed will slow down...so will the rpm..as long as the rpm do not exceed the redline...everything is ok..

but if you drop to 2nd gear...the rpm will shoot up even higher...higher than the red line...ok fo a couple of seconds...buy prolonge at higher than red line...wil be trouble. the engine may seize..ie piston jam..

unless absolutely neccessary...drop 1 lower gear at a time only...dont redline it...

 

for slowing down

the procedure is always...

cut throttle

use brake

use engine brake..

if you suddenly gear down quickly...your engine life/clutch will take a hit....

off course in an emergency...do all the above together...but be prepared for a very unstable bike...be extra careful at corners...it will be hellish.

[jus.xception]

My engine braking is not as strong as before. Gone weaker quite significantly...

Any idea what is the reason for it?

[ezzyoiler]

My engine braking is not as strong as before. Gone weaker quite significantly...

Any idea what is the reason for it?

most probably your clutch is wearing out..

[jus.xception]

most probably your clutch is wearing out..

 

ohgosh.. i just changed it like 2 months ago

[s4dreamer]

ohgosh.. i just changed it like 2 months ago

 

Wah! That's a little too fast for that. Sure, engine braking makes the clutch wear out faster but not THAT fast.

[Pplater]

I'm not sure about most class 2B bikes but my NSR SP had crap engine braking that was as good as useless. The bike just keeps going forward even though I engage engine braking. A super4 (at least) on the other hand... Ah.. Thats real engine braking. I assume most class 2 bikes engine braking also at least as good as s4. I think its gotta do with engine capacity. Higher engine capacity, stronger engine braking.

 

Think u guys can recall from your school riding days also?

[bruce71]

I'm not sure about most class 2B bikes but my NSR SP had crap engine braking that was as good as useless. The bike just keeps going forward even though I engage engine braking. A super4 (at least) on the other hand... Ah.. Thats real engine braking. I assume most class 2 bikes engine braking also at least as good as s4. I think its gotta do with engine capacity. Higher engine capacity, stronger engine braking.

 

Think u guys can recall from your school riding days also?

 

nope, engine braking got nothing to do with engine capacity. the actual reason for your misunderstanding is that your SP was a two stroke.

 

two stroke bikes behave very differently from the typical four stroke engine. newbies who are not familiar with 2 stroke behaviour are often caught off guard with the 'lack' of engine braking. once I learn how to brake & get used to it, it's not an issue. in fact I prefer & brake better!

( same as their power band & torque issues, once I got used to them, I prefer it & view them as advantages rather than disadvantage! too lengthy to explain here & off topic anyway )

 

i think most of us learn to ride or drive 4 stroke engines in riding / driving school so this is how misunderstanding occurs as the 2 stroke way was not taught.

Edited January 8, 2013 by bruce71
clearing up

[jus.xception]

Wah! That's a little too fast for that. Sure, engine braking makes the clutch wear out faster but not THAT fast.

 

What else might cause my clutch to wear out so fast?

[jus.xception]

Personally my SP used to have a very strong engine braking. It was way stronger than the cb125 which i used in SSDC.

 

I guess my clutch is worn out? What is clutch plate btw?

[wait4me]

I'm not sure about most class 2B bikes but my NSR SP had crap engine braking that was as good as useless. The bike just keeps going forward even though I engage engine braking. A super4 (at least) on the other hand... Ah.. Thats real engine braking. I assume most class 2 bikes engine braking also at least as good as s4. I think its gotta do with engine capacity. Higher engine capacity, stronger engine braking.

 

Think u guys can recall from your school riding days also?

maybe u got a chui NSR hahahh

[Pplater]

nope, engine braking got nothing to do with engine capacity. the actual reason for your misunderstanding is that your SP was a two stroke.

 

two stroke bikes behave very differently from the typical four stroke engine. newbies who are not familiar with 2 stroke behaviour are often caught off guard with the 'lack' of engine braking. once I learn how to brake & get used to it, it's not an issue. in fact I prefer & brake better!

( same as their power band & torque issues, once I got used to them, I prefer it & view them as advantages rather than disadvantage! too lengthy to explain here & off topic anyway )

 

i think most of us learn to ride or drive 4 stroke engines in riding / driving school so this is how misunderstanding occurs as the 2 stroke way was not taught.

 

Ah.. I see. Thats new. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll bear this in mind next time I swing my legs over a two-stroke machine again.

[Pplater]

edited out

Edited January 10, 2013 by Pplater