Honda New 400cc lineup 2013, CB400F, CB400X, CBR400R

[mechwira]

Is the accessories for cb500x in europe compatible 400x??? I see youtube videos cb500x is made in thailand.. how about 400x?

 

bro... i say in many posts already, the 400 is the exact same 500 bike just with the piston stroke shortened....

 

they build the 500 in thailand, and sell.

 

some of these very same bikes, in the thailand manufacturing plant, they reduce the stroke to become 400cc, then they sell as the 400 variants. it is the same bike.

[napalm_rapier]

bro... i say in many posts already, the 400 is the exact same 500 bike just with the piston stroke shortened....

 

they build the 500 in thailand, and sell.

 

some of these very same bikes, in the thailand manufacturing plant, they reduce the stroke to become 400cc, then they sell as the 400 variants. it is the same bike.

 

Thanks for the clarification

[revhappy]

bro... i say in many posts already, the 400 is the exact same 500 bike just with the piston stroke shortened....

 

they build the 500 in thailand, and sell.

 

some of these very same bikes, in the thailand manufacturing plant, they reduce the stroke to become 400cc, then they sell as the 400 variants. it is the same bike.

 

Just like Duke 200 and 125 are same bikes and also GSR400 and GSR600 are same bikes

[mechwira]

Just like Duke 200 and 125 are same bikes and also GSR400 and GSR600 are same bikes

 

no.

 

duke 200 and duke 125 are designed seperately, with different engines housed in different bodies. they are each standalone designs. just like a gsx-r600 is not the same as a gsx-r1000; they share the same design concept, but they are individually different bikes, produced in completely different production lines in the factory. parts and accessories are not compatible between the two versions.

 

it should be said however that the duke 390 uses the exact same body as the duke 200, but a totally different, individually designed 375cc engine. in the factory, they produce the same body for both the 200 and 390, but then install completely different engines. parts and accessories for external bodies are identical, but engine parts will be completely different.

 

but the ninja400r vs ER-6 and CBR/CBF/CBX400 vs CBR/CBF/CBX500, they build the exact same engines and house them in the exact same bodies. it is one single production line for both. just that somewhere in the middle of this production line, they downsleeve an ER-6 engine and re-badge it as a ninja400r; and for the CBR/CBF/CBX500, in the middle of the production line they simply shorten the piston stroke and then re-badge it as a 400 variant. but in both cases, same bike built by the same production line. as such, the parts and accessories are identical to each other.

 

i do not know whether a gsr400 vs gsr600 is same production line with one downsleeved engine, or whether they are two seperate standalone models.

Edited July 30, 2013 by mechwira

[Jehuty]

You want exciting, ride a tuned 2 stroke, I just worry you might kill yourself.

[Jehuty]

no.

 

duke 200 and duke 125 are designed seperately, with different engines housed in different bodies. they are each standalone designs. just like a gsx-r600 is not the same as a gsx-r1000; they share the same design concept, but they are individually different bikes, produced in completely different production lines in the factory. parts and accessories are not compatible between the two versions.

 

it should be said however that the duke 390 uses the exact same body as the duke 200, but a totally different, individually designed 375cc engine. in the factory, they produce the same body for both the 200 and 390, but then install completely different engines. parts and accessories for external bodies are identical, but engine parts will be completely different.

 

but the ninja400r vs ER-6 and CBR/CBF/CBX400 vs CBR/CBF/CBX500, they build the exact same engines and house them in the exact same bodies. it is one single production line for both. just that somewhere in the middle of this production line, they downsleeve an ER-6 engine and re-badge it as a ninja400r; and for the CBR/CBF/CBX500, in the middle of the production line they simply shorten the piston stroke and then re-badge it as a 400 variant. but in both cases, same bike built by the same production line. as such, the parts and accessories are identical to each other.

 

i do not know whether a gsr400 vs gsr600 is same production line with one downsleeved engine, or whether they are two seperate standalone models.

 

I bet there's bore up kits.

[Motor]

Great bike

[DeusExMachina]

I wonder what's up with the sudden parallel twin fad amongst the bike manufacturers lately. Honestly I would rather get an old Super 4, or GSR4 over any one of these new weak-assed small twins any day.

 

If I wanted a weakassed transport bike, I would choose a 250cc scooter over that new CB or CBR.

[r1der]

I wonder what's up with the sudden parallel twin fad amongst the bike manufacturers lately. Honestly I would rather get an old Super 4, or GSR4 over any one of these new weak-assed small twins any day.

 

If I wanted a weakassed transport bike, I would choose a 250cc scooter over that new CB or CBR.

 

it's evolution of technology i guess... last time was 2-stroke, then 4-stroke, next will be parallel twin... sadly it looks like backward technology to me.

[Jehuty]

I wonder what's up with the sudden parallel twin fad amongst the bike manufacturers lately. Honestly I would rather get an old Super 4, or GSR4 over any one of these new weak-assed small twins any day.

 

If I wanted a weakassed transport bike, I would choose a 250cc scooter over that new CB or CBR.

 

Maintenance, FC, S4s aren't the best at fuel saving...tho its actually not that bad. Anyway they are racing 250s, not 400s, guess that's why.

[PenangKia]

Waiting for someone to do a dyno, 52bhp on an inline 4 vs 46bhp on a parallel twin, I guess what's important to me would be the linearity of power and available torque. FC's definitely going to be better at the expense of top end power. Sort of like the muscle cars in the past vs the NA cars currently being made

[mechwira]

i'd take a four cylinder class2a bike over the parallel twin anytime.

 

but the super4 is too plain and common, and a cbr400rr or rvf400 is too old and i have niether the time nor passion to tolerate the maintenance gremlins that will inevitably appear, even if those two in their twenty year old state will still smoke the brand new parallel twin.

 

so... i have to settle for a parallel twin.

 

if you ask why they are now being hotly produced, its coz KTM and the japanese have discovered a huge but previously untapped global market for cheap/practical/reliable/fun-but-not-too-powerful small-engine bikes. in europe last year, the ninja ZX-6R outsold the previous model Ninja250R by only six units. think about it, another seven pices of 250R and that weak-assed ninja250r would have been kawasaki's bestselling sports(ish)bike in europe.

 

but i'm still disappointed they dun recognize that there is also a potential market for small-engine hardcore bikes, and insist that everyone wants a parallel twin.

[PenangKia]

Well, the current and only thing holding me back from a Super 4 is that it is too plain and common. I'm not a fan of full-fairing bikes so the rest of the Rs are not an option. The Duke 390 is too small for my liking, same goes for the DRZ motards. Wouldn't mind a 400cc Monster or GSR, but they are all now so old (>5 years) and require more TLC than I have the time to provide.

 

So now, Super 4 REVO or 400X? :-)

[keyxblade]

Well, the current and only thing holding me back from a Super 4 is that it is too plain and common. I'm not a fan of full-fairing bikes so the rest of the Rs are not an option. The Duke 390 is too small for my liking, same goes for the DRZ motards. Wouldn't mind a 400cc Monster or GSR, but they are all now so old (>5 years) and require more TLC than I have the time to provide.

 

So now, Super 4 REVO or 400X? :-)

 

I will wait for revo price to drop more and get brand new. more worth it since it has more power and vtec, but if u like looks then get 400x

[r1der]

Well, the current and only thing holding me back from a Super 4 is that it is too plain and common. I'm not a fan of full-fairing bikes so the rest of the Rs are not an option. The Duke 390 is too small for my liking, same goes for the DRZ motards. Wouldn't mind a 400cc Monster or GSR, but they are all now so old (>5 years) and require more TLC than I have the time to provide.

 

So now, Super 4 REVO or 400X? :-)

 

I would say revo... proven model n can get spare parts easily. unless u want to become 'white mouse' for 400x...

[PenangKia]

I would say revo... proven model n can get spare parts easily. unless u want to become 'white mouse' for 400x...

 

Another 2+ months to go before I become eligible, hopefully some time for other "white mice" to try the 400x

[SlowButSteady Bro]

I feel sg bike license need to revised that 2A should be 250cc-500cc,Seriously the cb500 series are underpowered.My friends CB500X a lot of time Kena tapau by either Super four or GSR400 at highways whenever we go for ride in Jb.Plus point these twin cylinders is good in acceleration thus practical for city usage as compared to 4 cylinders cause the low end power start as early as 3000rpm.I feel Yamaha should take this advantage to produce a FZ4 with 3 cylinders and I would put 5-6k as downpayment anytime..I still miss my old days where CBR400/VFR400/RVF400/ZXR400 rules the 2A segment..

[SlowButSteady Bro]

it's evolution of technology i guess... last time was 2-stroke, then 4-stroke, next will be parallel twin... sadly it looks like backward technology to me.

 

Agree with you bike tech nowadays have gone backwards and cars as low as 1.4 power output nowadays are greater than pre 90s 1.6 cars..Wtf sial,Fiat multi air 1.4 twin turbo already produce 170hp!

[PenangKia]

I feel sg bike license need to revised that 2A should be 250cc-500cc,Seriously the cb500 series are underpowered.My friends CB500X a lot of time Kena tapau by either Super four or GSR400 at highways whenever we go for ride in Jb.Plus point these twin cylinders is good in acceleration thus practical for city usage as compared to 4 cylinders cause the low end power start as early as 3000rpm.I feel Yamaha should take this advantage to produce a FZ4 with 3 cylinders and I would put 5-6k as downpayment anytime..I still miss my old days where CBR400/VFR400/RVF400/ZXR400 rules the 2A segment..

 

Look at the number of road fatalities involving motorcyclists (especially the young ones) and you will understand why I doubt the staggered license will be revised. In fact, the longer the authorities can keep the folks off their motorcycles, the better for them. The days of the pocket rocket is over, heck, just recently a fella just died trying to set a new world record on a motorcycle. Heck, I'd prefer more usable power for city commuting, doubt I'll be using the top end power for when the bike is hitting 180-190kmh. Hence the direction of the market - to usable power, cost-efficient maintenance and good fuel consumption.

[fx110]

latest price from Honda Boon Siew Malaysia

 

---------------STANDARD----ABS

CBR500R----RM 28,588----RM 31,888

CB500F------RM 28,288----RM 31,388

CB500X------RM 28,688----RM 31,988

 

for reference only

[Jehuty]

I actually prefer the low end torque of motards as compared to the top end speed of S4s for city riding, plus they run cooler. I'd say parallel twins would be the best of both worlds. If you say parallel twins kena tapau by S4, definately but I go touring with 600 supersports and liter sportbikes, they tapau me like nobody's business.

 

Point is, you're riding in the city day to day, not racing.

[napalm_rapier]

So seriously, nobody have bought it? Haha

[no21]

need a local reviewer for the 400x. interested in this bike also, need to retire my rxk =x

[PenangKia]

need a local reviewer for the 400x. interested in this bike also, need to retire my rxk =x

 

So far, one forummer has got it: http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/379838-Honda-CB400-X

[tycokia]

Saw one cb400x under my block, look magnificent... Does it belongs to any one here?