Aprilia RSV 1000 compared to Ducati 999

[sidestep1984]

Could anyone compare between the 2?...

Price-wise...how much do they cost(basic versions of each)...

performance-wise?..which one is better?

[Guest nE0]

The new base version of the 999 has the old 999R engine (140hp), while the Aprilla is still using the ageing TL-R engine, about 120+ hp.

 

I think if you want value for money, get the Aprilla RSV-Factory. At 32k, its incredibly good value for money compared to the equivalent Ducati 999S.

[sidestep1984]

Originally posted by nE0@Nov 26 2004, 01:45 AM

The new base version of the 999 has the old 999R engine (140hp), while the Aprilla is still using the ageing TL-R engine, about 120+ hp.

 

I think if you want value for money, get the Aprilla RSV-Factory. At 32k, its incredibly good value for money compared to the equivalent Ducati 999S.

 

i was wondering...off-topic...y does aprilia still use the Suzuki engine(TL-R suzuki rite?)? is it a case of...if it aint spoilt...dont fix it?

[bktan]

TL-R? i thought their engine from Rotax not Suzuki.

 

if u ask me go for Aprilia, looks cool, looks nice, less noisy, and im sure more comfy and rideable than the ducati. And the ducati costs several extra grand over it.

 

ever heard of ducrapi.com ?

[sidestep1984]

Originally posted by bktan@Nov 26 2004, 08:59 AM

TL-R? i thought their engine from Rotax not Suzuki.

 

if u ask me go for Aprilia, looks cool, looks nice, less noisy, and im sure more comfy and rideable than the ducati. And the ducati costs several extra grand over it.

 

ever heard of ducrapi.com ?

sori..dont noe much abt engines...dont angry yuh...

the owner of ducrapi.com's experiences has freaked me out.....

 

 

i was wondering...why all the hoo haa over ducati...while the aprilia..being italian-made isnt held with that much awe?

[Guest R1szuan]

ducati it will shock and awe you man... Dammed when i will win toto to buy one of those machinces.. :lovestruck:

[sidestep1984]

well....are there anyone obsessed with aprilia like those people obsessed with Dukes?

[Guest nE0]

Originally posted by sidestep1984@Nov 26 2004, 09:23 AM

sori..dont noe much abt engines...dont angry yuh...

the owner of ducrapi.com's experiences has freaked me out.....

 

 

i was wondering...why all the hoo haa over ducati...while the aprilia..being italian-made isnt held with that much awe?

Theres just something very special about Ducati's I can't put my finger on. Maybe its the sound? The color? The name itself?

 

If you can afford it, and if you love it, then by all means get one of them. If value for money is your piority but must get a V-twin sports bike, then go get a VTR or TLR. For the price of a new Ducati 999, you can get a VTR AND an TLR, plus enough aftermarket parts to turn both of them into seriously fast and well handling machines.

 

Ducrapi.com only echos the possible horrors of owning a high performance, high tech bike, not limited to Ducatis alone. It also goes to show the passion and loyalty to the brand. If a Japanese sports bike had such problems, would the owner go setup a website? I don't think so, he/she will most probably just sell it and get another from one of the other japanese "big four".

[clubhead]

Originally posted by sidestep1984@Nov 25 2004, 10:34 PM

Could anyone compare between the 2?...

Price-wise...how much do they cost(basic versions of each)...

performance-wise?..which one is better?

A 999S costs something like $45-48k the last I remembered. The RSV Factory gives much much better value at $32-$35k with it's radial brakes, OZ wheels and full Ohlins setup.

 

Exactly why Ducati is so much sought after is precisely because of it's price. It's always so expensive so exclusitivity is guaranteed. It's a good bike yes, but a stock CBR1000 and R1 is anytime as good or even better. That has been what I've been reading in the British bike magazines anyway.

 

When one has money, it's no longer about having the fastest bike. It's about having brand name, about being exclusive, about having an attitude, etc, etc. Very emotional things. If you paid $45k for a bike, electrical faults are intepreted as the bike having an 'attitude' rather than a problem. And if it can't start after leaving it for 2 weeks, same thing, the bike has an attitude. You adapt and accept the bike's behaviour. Never mind if your wrist feels like being broken 10 times over when you ride a Ducati > half hour in traffic. Never mind if the heat from the radiator cooks your balls as well. It's a Ducati

 

Anyway, I hope Ducati riders here don't take offence. As I said, it's a very emotional thing.

 

For me, given the choice, I will choose the RSV. Personal taste. I feel you're just paying way too much premium for a Ducati with equivilant performance and exclusitivity....

[sidestep1984]

Originally posted by clubhead@Nov 28 2004, 11:35 PM

A 999S costs something like $45-48k the last I remembered. The RSV Factory gives much much better value at $32-$35k with it's radial brakes, OZ wheels and full Ohlins setup.

 

Exactly why Ducati is so much sought after is precisely because of it's price. It's always so expensive so exclusitivity is guaranteed. It's a good bike yes, but a stock CBR1000 and R1 is anytime as good or even better. That has been what I've been reading in the British bike magazines anyway.

 

When one has money, it's no longer about having the fastest bike. It's about having brand name, about being exclusive, about having an attitude, etc, etc. Very emotional things. If you paid $45k for a bike, electrical faults are intepreted as the bike having an 'attitude' rather than a problem. And if it can't start after leaving it for 2 weeks, same thing, the bike has an attitude. You adapt and accept the bike's behaviour. Never mind if your wrist feels like being broken 10 times over when you ride a Ducati > half hour in traffic. Never mind if the heat from the radiator cooks your balls as well. It's a Ducati

 

Anyway, I hope Ducati riders here don't take offence. As I said, it's a very emotional thing.

 

For me, given the choice, I will choose the RSV. Personal taste. I feel you're just paying way too much premium for a Ducati with equivilant performance and exclusitivity....

guess an RSV is much rarer huh?

[Guest rogerng]

i would say both are equally rare. u rarely see them on the road.

[sidestep1984]

ahh...i find that the RSV looks sleeker....

 

the 999 doesnt look as nice as the 998..i find the headlights in the 998 a work of art...

[sidestep1984]

http://www.ducatistore.co.uk/images/ducati_superbikes/ducati_998_matrix.jpg

 

http://www.motoring.co.za/site/30/bikepics/Ducati%20999%20R.jpg

 

http://www.aprilia.com/models03/road/dati/foto_mod_hp_55_1095693573.jpg

[bktan]

3 cheers to aprilia!! the pics speak a thousand words

[-tRuSt-]

Originally posted by bktan@Nov 29 2004, 04:57 PM

3 cheers to aprilia!! the pics speak a thousand words

the aprilla sure looks great! but so does the ducatis...!

[Guest nE0]

Is it just me, or does the RSV look so much like the Honda VTR?

[wheelie45]

If strike toto buy all 3 hahahahaha:smile:

[sidestep1984]

Originally posted by nE0@Nov 29 2004, 06:37 PM

Is it just me, or does the RSV look so much like the Honda VTR?

i find the aprilia look more bird-of-prey-like...

 

RSV looks like VTR?...i find the VTR look much wider.....

[karmatrix]

you have to look at the RSV 'Live'...just look so much sleeker than the pics...

[clubhead]

Originally posted by sidestep1984@Nov 29 2004, 10:38 AM

guess an RSV is much rarer huh?

Apparently so but not my reason for choosing it. Last I heard, there's only 2 RSV Factory on the road. Ducati 999 at least 10 on the road. Probably nearing 15...

[Guest nE0]

I've seen, touched, carassed, hugged, sat on an RSV Factory and Ducati 999S before. Sexy italian bikes

 

The RSV has all the parts, matched only by the 999S (only just), which costs more than 10k more. Very good value IMO!

 

But for the 35k price tag of an RSV, you can get a TLR or VTR and mod them to embarass both the Italian bikes, but still have spare cash for a 2nd transport bike, and probably some spare change for insurance, road tax, petrol etc....

[bktan]

as mentioned above why go for italians: the exculsivity of it all and the "WOW" factor when travelling on the road.

[NoLogicOne]

It's a love it or hate it thingy.......rode one before???? It's addictive, and makes you go all out somehow......When you make it (at the tracks), you felt achievement. When you break it, you dun really regret it, laugh it off and then worry how you are gonna pay for this coming repair bill.......borrow from Mum or credit card????

 

A mech fren dun like Inline engines, however, after riding a MV Agusta, he sheepishly tells us he kindda like this perticuliar Inline bike......it's just different in the feel somehow. Maybe the Italian virus again.....

[sidestep1984]

Originally posted by nE0@Nov 30 2004, 12:28 AM

I've seen, touched, carassed, hugged, sat on an RSV Factory and Ducati 999S before. Sexy italian bikes

 

The RSV has all the parts, matched only by the 999S (only just), which costs more than 10k more. Very good value IMO!

 

But for the 35k price tag of an RSV, you can get a TLR or VTR and mod them to embarass both the Italian bikes, but still have spare cash for a 2nd transport bike, and probably some spare change for insurance, road tax, petrol etc....

a noobie question...

how would u modify a vtr or tlr to make it better?

is it street legal in the end?

[bktan]

http://www.aprilia.com/portale/eng/mag_articolo.phtml?id=751

 

STRAIGHT FROM MCN: THE RSV IS THE BEST ITALIAN SPORT BIKE!

 

1. Aprilia Rsv 1000 R

2. Ducati 749S

3. Benelli Tornado

4. Aprilia Rsv 1000 R Factory

5. Ducati 999

6. MV Agusta F4 1000

7. Ducati 749R

8. Ducati 999S

9. MV Agusta F4 1000 Ago

10. Benelli Tornado RS

 

enough said