Yamaha FJR1300

[speedtriple]

Originally posted by ashenZ@Nov 14 2004, 10:55 PM

Anyone else care to comment and enlighten us on the FJR heat issues???

yep, i've heard abt the heat issue for sometime. could someone comment on it?

[speedtriple]

what is meant by torquey? torque is the frequency of the wheels revolving izzit?

[omnislash]

Originally posted by speedtriple@Nov 15 2004, 12:08 AM

what is meant by torquey? torque is the frequency of the wheels revolving izzit?

it means sort of like the "pull" of the bike.. its the charac of many shaft driven bike..

 

Anyway, to say FJR is under powered, i beg to differ..

 

I tried it out with an 04R1 out of curiosity, it didnt manage to shake me off a single bit.. He might not have given it all out, but so did I... or didnt I...

 

IMHO, FJR first two gears are bit heavy to drag,... but once it hits the 3rd gear, it doesnt lose out to many litre bikes... I might lose on the track due to the nimble factor.. but pick up, try us...

[SpEr]

Originally posted by omnislash@Nov 15 2004, 12:41 AM

it means sort of like the "pull" of the bike.. its the charac of many shaft driven bike..

 

Anyway, to say FJR is under powered, i beg to differ..

 

I tried it out with an 04R1 out of curiosity, it didnt manage to shake me off a single bit.. He might not have given it all out, but so did I... or didnt I...

 

IMHO, FJR first two gears are bit heavy to drag,... but once it hits the 3rd gear, it doesnt lose out to many litre bikes... I might lose on the track due to the nimble factor.. but pick up, try us...

 

Guys anyone tried to pop the bike??

[Easyrider_Bandit]

Originally posted by omnislash@Nov 15 2004, 12:41 AM

Anyway, to say FJR is under powered, i beg to differ..

 

I must protest, I am taken entirely out of context. I didn't say anything of the sort. I said the bike lost about 20% of it power between crank and wheel through the shaft. That's a proven fact... chain drives, when properly maintaned only loose 2% and are superior in terms of power delivery (but require much more maintainence and fail sooner). That's why you will never find a belt drive or a shaft drive at motor-GP; they are too power inefficient.

 

0-100 km/h in 2.9 secs cannot be underpowered by any means. In other words, if you removed the FJR's shaft and put in a chain drive, it will go even faster.

 

Torque is a measuement of power: It is usually measured in Nm or foot-pounds (ft-lbs). It measure the amount of rotational force that is put out by the engine. The other measurement of power is horsepower.

 

Torque has little relation with the shaft of the bike. Some of the highest torque bikes around use a chain drive; again, see the hayabusa above at 141 Nm as opposed to the FJR's 126 Nm.

 

Omni... the R1 has 180hp and loses 2% due to chain drive... The FJR has 145 hp and looses 20% due to the shaft drive. R1 weighs 379 lbs dry. FJR weight 537 lbs. Compared to R1s we're fat pigs.... Your feeling is not wrong, the R1 is comparable to the FJR in the first few seconds. It puts out 81.2 ft.lbs compared to our bigger 99 ft lbs, but remember, we are pushing almost 150 lbs more weight. After a few seconds the R1 will leave us behind as its far superior hp and lighter weight takes over.

 

Bottom line is people, remember that we are riding a tourer at the end of the day. We have sacrificed speed for a comfortable seat, seating position, reliable final drives etc. We can never be as fast a stripped down, aerodynamic racing bikes in the litre class simply because the FJR was never built for that purpose. If you want to challenge a racing bike, challenge them to how long you can sit in your seat before your backside gives way.... confirm we will win.

[omnislash]

Originally posted by Easyrider_Bandit@Nov 15 2004, 05:39 AM

I must protest, I am taken entirely out of context. I didn't say anything of the sort. I said the bike lost about 20% of it power between crank and wheel through the shaft. That's a proven fact... chain drives, when properly maintaned only loose 2% and are superior in terms of power delivery (but require much more maintainence and fail sooner). That's why you will never find a belt drive or a shaft drive at motor-GP; they are too power inefficient.

 

0-100 km/h in 2.9 secs cannot be underpowered by any means. In other words, if you removed the FJR's shaft and put in a chain drive, it will go even faster.

 

Torque is a measuement of power: It is usually measured in Nm or foot-pounds (ft-lbs). It measure the amount of rotational force that is put out by the engine. The other measurement of power is horsepower.

 

Torque has little relation with the shaft of the bike. Some of the highest torque bikes around use a chain drive; again, see the hayabusa above at 141 Nm as opposed to the FJR's 126 Nm.

 

Omni... the R1 has 180hp and loses 2% due to chain drive... The FJR has 145 hp and looses 20% due to the shaft drive. R1 weighs 379 lbs dry. FJR weight 537 lbs. Compared to R1s we're fat pigs.... Your feeling is not wrong, the R1 is comparable to the FJR in the first few seconds. It puts out 81.2 ft.lbs compared to our bigger 99 ft lbs, but remember, we are pushing almost 150 lbs more weight. After a few seconds the R1 will leave us behind as its far superior hp and lighter weight takes over.

 

Bottom line is people, remember that we are riding a tourer at the end of the day. We have sacrificed speed for a comfortable seat, seating position, reliable final drives etc. We can never be as fast a stripped down, aerodynamic racing bikes in the litre class simply because the FJR was never built for that purpose. If you want to challenge a racing bike, challenge them to how long you can sit in your seat before your backside gives way.... confirm we will win.

Hee Hee.. Torque is not a measure of power. It gives an insight to power though.

 

Power (watts) = Torque (Nm) x Rotational Speed (Radian/sec)

 

But I fully agree with ur point that ultimately, human is the limiting factor.

In Singapore, the limit is not on the machine, but on us. Whether we dare to break the law, or extend to which we break the law...

 

True, the figures dun lie (a bit actually). But in Singapore roads with Singaporeans riding, there's not much diff b/w 2.9s and 2.69s from 0-100 kph.

[Easyrider_Bandit]

haha, you are right, I stand corrected. I should have said torque is a FUNCTION of power.

 

Agree fully with the rest you have said.

[gwen]

Originally posted by Easyrider_Bandit@Nov 15 2004, 05:39 AM

Bottom line is people, remember that we are riding a tourer at the end of the day. We have sacrificed speed for a comfortable seat, seating position, reliable final drives etc. We can never be as fast a stripped down, aerodynamic racing bikes in the litre class simply because the FJR was never built for that purpose. If you want to challenge a racing bike, challenge them to how long you can sit in your seat before your backside gives way.... confirm we will win.

:clap:

[ashenZ]

so easy rider and omnislash.... u guyz encountered any heat issues with ur ride??

[omnislash]

Originally posted by ashenZ@Nov 15 2004, 06:58 PM

so easy rider and omnislash.... u guyz encountered any heat issues with ur ride??

The heat is terrible only during jams and if it happens in a sunny afternoon. Generally, its more of getting used to the heat. Once u become experienced or used to the bike, the speed u travel at will typically good enough for normal cooling w/o the fan coming on. Its only during the initial part when u dun dare to squeeze and keep stopping that causes the temp to shoot up... Thats my opinion.

[sonic_seed]

agree man, heat tak boleh tahan esp jams, cannot wear berms too, lagi worse, even after the ride, feel the calfs there still can feel the heat... but then, great to ride in night, offers some sort of "heater" element =)

[ashenZ]

siao liao... i like to wear berms and slippers/sandals to ride around wanz... hahhaa.. juz ave to tahan abit nex time i guess....

[omnislash]

Originally posted by ashenZ@Nov 15 2004, 10:17 PM

siao liao... i like to wear berms and slippers/sandals to ride around wanz... hahhaa.. juz ave to tahan abit nex time i guess....

i wear those all the time...

Sometimes, my inner thigh will be like red after a ride...

 

Dunno whether will lead to low sperm count anot...

[Easyrider_Bandit]

Originally posted by omnislash@Nov 15 2004, 07:33 PM

The heat is terrible only during jams and if it happens in a sunny afternoon. Generally, its more of getting used to the heat. Once u become experienced or used to the bike, the speed u travel at will typically good enough for normal cooling w/o the fan coming on. Its only during the initial part when u dun dare to squeeze and keep stopping that causes the temp to shoot up... Thats my opinion.

1-2 bar- cool

3 bar- warm

4 bar- hot; fan turns on

5 bar- good luck to you!

 

If you're moving, its usually at 2-3 bars. Once you hit start-stop traffic its 4 bars... never seen it hit 5 yet. 4 bars already very hot.

[casio]

was on my way back from KL yesterday. saw a couple of FU & FY plated FJR on the highway. awesome. anyone from this forum? Nice bike!

[Easyrider_Bandit]

Warchild and the gang at FJRowners have come up with a group buy for the superbrace. Seems to be a *very good item*

 

Read here for more details. we could combine to save postage costs if anyone is interested.

 

Yes, you can order and they will ship internationally.

No, you do not have to do any drilling or damage to your FJR to install it.

 

 

http://www.fjrowners.ws/discus/messages/27/7882.html

 

The product site is http://www.superbrace.com

 

"SuperBrace Fork Stabilizers

These top quality patented fork stabilizers feature computer machined 6061 T-6 aircraft quality billet aluminium and are engineered to help reduce speed wobbles, front tire wear, rain groove sensitivity and help improve overall handling. All SuperBraces bolt on quickly with stainless allen bolts and come in mirror polish or black anodize. With over 100 different braces available for Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha and Harley-Davidson, we have a brace that is the perfect fit for your bike."

 

 

Here is the Superbrace Group Buy http://www.fjrtech.com/sb_gb.cfm

[capirexx]

Originally posted by casio@Nov 16 2004, 08:57 AM

was on my way back from KL yesterday. saw a couple of FU & FY plated FJR on the highway. awesome. anyone from this forum? Nice bike!

 

hee, wat colors did u see? i came back with another FJR and ST11 from KL yesterday also...

[capirexx]

Anymore gatherings??

[ashenZ]

Originally posted by casio@Nov 16 2004, 08:57 AM

was on my way back from KL yesterday. saw a couple of FU & FY plated FJR on the highway. awesome. anyone from this forum? Nice bike!

muz be a blue FJR and a Storm Silver FJR rite???? Capriexx and gang~ hehehhee~

 

Casio.. wotz ya ride noww???

[tigerman]

Originally posted by chung@Nov 13 2004, 05:16 PM

$25,900 (inclusive of COE, registration, IU transfer, GST, 6-mth rd tax, 2nd party insurance [above 31])

May i know which shop gave you the quotation for the FJR??

Was asking Southern today and the price they quoted was

about $1000 cheaper, however i forgot to double check if its 2005 model.

Thx

[chung]

Originally posted by tigerman@Nov 17 2004, 12:23 AM

May i know which shop gave you the quotation for the FJR??

Was asking Southern today and the price they quoted was

about $1000 cheaper, however i forgot to double check if its 2005 model.

Thx

Yeah it was Tiong from Southern.

Good for you if can get better offer.

Keep us posted.

 

BTW, so call 2005 model now seems to be merely new color scheme.

[casio]

Originally posted by ashenZ@Nov 16 2004, 11:31 PM

muz be a blue FJR and a Storm Silver FJR rite???? Capriexx and gang~ hehehhee~

 

Casio.. wotz ya ride noww???

yo

 

it was a black and a grey one i think. but i remember clearly that the st11 is a white stallion. was i correct?

 

i see that you are trying to sell your st. sold already?getting a fjr? me, i ride a cb13

[Guest cheeko]

Originally posted by casio@Nov 17 2004, 01:49 PM

yo

 

it was a black and a grey one i think. but i remember clearly that the st11 is a white stallion. was i correct?

 

i see that you are trying to sell your st. sold already?getting a fjr? me, i ride a cb13

Ah...at last someone riding a CB1300, is it the new single exhaust model or double exhaust, i very interested to know more abt the bike. Maybe will discuss with u when got chance to meet up someday...

[casio]

Originally posted by cheekozer600@Nov 18 2004, 07:42 AM

Ah...at last someone riding a CB1300, is it the new single exhaust model or double exhaust, i very interested to know more abt the bike. Maybe will discuss with u when got chance to meet up someday...

mine is a 98 model. so it's double exhaust. sure we can talk when we had the chance to meet up but my knowledge can be quite limited as i'm not a diy person. pardon me.

[ashenZ]

Originally posted by casio@Nov 17 2004, 01:49 PM

yo

 

it was a black and a grey one i think. but i remember clearly that the st11 is a white stallion. was i correct?

 

i see that you are trying to sell your st. sold already?getting a fjr? me, i ride a cb13

try to cut cost... get a smaller ride... and save up for a FJR loh....

 

hhahaa~~ maybe we can have a get tog someday!~