daelim daystar corner ?

[yifanz]

hi all,

i saw in forum saying there is a daelim daystar forum somewhere and was trying to look for it but i cant find. its will be nice if u guys can help me out.

btw, i am thinking of getting a daystar so i hope daystar riders can help me out.

 

thanks and regards

[yifanz]

daystar riders ???

 

help help

[jemmo]

Hi i ride a daystar haha uhh no leh i haven't seen a daystar forum. but i know 2 other daystar riders and i see some friendly owners at CKA kaki bukit. btw i know someone who might want to let someone COI his bike in Jan but he's not active in the forum. I also saw the new owner of Kan's bike at cka, very funny and friendly too. I also know a friend looking for a daystar... you're not him right? hahaha...

[kmax]

there's another daystar rider.. nick is "cutejunk" or smthin like that..

his bike paint work very nice

[cxz6666]

hi all,

i saw in forum saying there is a daelim daystar forum somewhere and was trying to look for it but i cant find. its will be nice if u guys can help me out.

btw, i am thinking of getting a daystar so i hope daystar riders can help me out.

 

thanks and regards

 

What is your budget? Not very expensive, Daystar nowadays. But I suggest you get a Phantom 200

[jemmo]

yup as daystar riders we can help you out telling you the pros and cons. nights is a daystar expert, so you can look to him for advise. good luck in your search for a daystar, (or a phantom)

[nights]

hi all,

i saw in forum saying there is a daelim daystar forum somewhere and was trying to look for it but i cant find. its will be nice if u guys can help me out.

btw, i am thinking of getting a daystar so i hope daystar riders can help me out.

 

thanks and regards

 

Hi

 

Warm welcome to cruiser forum!

 

Answer to your query may be found in the enclosed thread.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93941

 

You could perform a search that back dated as far back as 2004. Most of the Daelim Daystar owners have since upgraded to either Class 2A or 2 bike.

 

Regards

[yifanz]

hi all who had replied.

 

think quite confrim i am getting a daystar from cka. actually more concern is how is e basic maintainence like? exp ? ya, i cosidered phantom b4 but since i have make up my mind so lets not compared them together. how is daystar stability? good? btw, i am not looking for speed but more on looks and monthly maintanance more. i wish to buy a bike to ride and not repair.

 

a very big thnks to those replied once again.

[cxz6666]

hi all who had replied.

 

think quite confrim i am getting a daystar from cka. actually more concern is how is e basic maintainence like? exp ? ya, i cosidered phantom b4 but since i have make up my mind so lets not compared them together. how is daystar stability? good? btw, i am not looking for speed but more on looks and monthly maintanance more. i wish to buy a bike to ride and not repair.

 

a very big thnks to those replied once again.

 

Please think twice b4 getting a Daystar, especially from CKA. How much did they quote you and how old is the bike? Is it the 125cc or 150cc one? I am also a former Daystar rider.

[jemmo]

well i'm sure CKA would quote you pretty ex, but for the condition it is in, it's usually worth it. But don't expect to sell it anything near that price haha. well if you service regularly and maintain your bike well, or sufficiently, it shouldn't be too expensive to maintain. On the other hand, parts are expensive as they are usually only found in CKA branches and are all original daelim parts.

[cxz6666]

No offence to the current owners of the Daystar, but it is probably one of the most over-priced bikes with no substance. I wonder how many Daystar owners eventually decided not to upgrade because the bike is good?

 

I think basically every aspect of the Daystar loses to the Phantom 200, including fuel consumption, top speed, pick-up, brand new retail price, second-hand price, resale value, price of spare parts and reliability. The looks, though, are subjective. I can never understand how the Daystar can be priced at almost $8000 when the Phantom 200 is about $5500. Also, now there's the Bajaj Pulsar 180 to consider and the price is below $5000 for a brand new one.

[cutejunk]

there's another daystar rider.. nick is "cutejunk" or smthin like that..

his bike paint work very nice

 

YO. here i m. e paintwork was done by my previous owner. he put alot of $ in e bike.

[yifanz]

Please think twice b4 getting a Daystar, especially from CKA. How much did they quote you and how old is the bike? Is it the 125cc or 150cc one? I am also a former Daystar rider.

 

hi ckz,

wat do u mean by think twice? as in the bike rreally cmi? is a 7years bike. so wat is e range like? btw, i juz passed my 2B oso so insurance super exp as compared cos got 0 experience at all. wat range will be a good price to get from them on road?

 

i ask some insurance company and they quote ntuc= 800 jap company =1k plus. so far cka quoted me 691 for insurance.

[yifanz]

well i'm sure CKA would quote you pretty ex, but for the condition it is in, it's usually worth it. But don't expect to sell it anything near that price haha. well if you service regularly and maintain your bike well, or sufficiently, it shouldn't be too expensive to maintain. On the other hand, parts are expensive as they are usually only found in CKA branches and are all original daelim parts.

 

i need to noe wat is the range is consider exp bro.

[yifanz]

No offence to the current owners of the Daystar, but it is probably one of the most over-priced bikes with no substance. I wonder how many Daystar owners eventually decided not to upgrade because the bike is good?

 

I think basically every aspect of the Daystar loses to the Phantom 200, including fuel consumption, top speed, pick-up, brand new retail price, second-hand price, resale value, price of spare parts and reliability. The looks, though, are subjective. I can never understand how the Daystar can be priced at almost $8000 when the Phantom 200 is about $5500. Also, now there's the Bajaj Pulsar 180 to consider and the price is below $5000 for a brand new one.

 

thx bro for the advise,

but like i say, lets not compared with other bikes. cos is subjective to every individual do u think? cos i dun wanna bring in all phantom knights and daystar warriors in again and compared which is better than other. there are alot comparison leh.

 

and most important for me, looks does matter alot. cos if u dun like e looks u will nv enjoy riding riggh bro? i nv say phantom is uglier as compared.

[yifanz]

YO. here i m. e paintwork was done by my previous owner. he put alot of $ in e bike.

 

hi cutejunk,

so how is daystar after riding it? overall stats? maintanance high ma? as in the basic wear and tear. how do u feel riding daystar?

[plasticblackspecs]

No offence to the current owners of the Daystar, but it is probably one of the most over-priced bikes with no substance. I wonder how many Daystar owners eventually decided not to upgrade because the bike is good?

 

I think basically every aspect of the Daystar loses to the Phantom 200, including fuel consumption, top speed, pick-up, brand new retail price, second-hand price, resale value, price of spare parts and reliability. The looks, though, are subjective. I can never understand how the Daystar can be priced at almost $8000 when the Phantom 200 is about $5500. Also, now there's the Bajaj Pulsar 180 to consider and the price is below $5000 for a brand new one.

 

Subjective la. Like why some ppl buy a Harley instead of a Honda or Yamaha bike.

 

Our COI in Jan friend can consider. Go view lor, no harm. The bike tested and proven already. And he do up quite a bit. Nice looking. Right Jemo?

[cxz6666]

hi ckz,

wat do u mean by think twice? as in the bike rreally cmi? is a 7years bike. so wat is e range like? btw, i juz passed my 2B oso so insurance super exp as compared cos got 0 experience at all. wat range will be a good price to get from them on road?

 

i ask some insurance company and they quote ntuc= 800 jap company =1k plus. so far cka quoted me 691 for insurance.

 

Let me guess, for a seven year old Daystar, CKA is trying to sell you at close to $3K? Below are two links to second-hand Daystars that are 7 to 8 years old. One sold for $500 and the other is still up for sale at $900. If you intend to upgrade to a bigger bike a year later, how much do you think you can sell it for? You should think twice because the performance of the bike is poor compared to other cheaper alternatives and the resale value is even worse. Also, if you ever need to change some of the stock parts for some reason, such as handlebar or fender, it will cost you quite a bomb.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151020&highlight=daystar

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160438&highlight=daystar

 

For the insurance, you must check whether the price they offered you is 1st, 2nd or 3rd party.

[cxz6666]

thx bro for the advise,

but like i say, lets not compared with other bikes. cos is subjective to every individual do u think? cos i dun wanna bring in all phantom knights and daystar warriors in again and compared which is better than other. there are alot comparison leh.

 

and most important for me, looks does matter alot. cos if u dun like e looks u will nv enjoy riding riggh bro? i nv say phantom is uglier as compared.

 

 

Subjective la. Like why some ppl buy a Harley instead of a Honda or Yamaha bike.

 

Our COI in Jan friend can consider. Go view lor, no harm. The bike tested and proven already. And he do up quite a bit. Nice looking. Right Jemo?

 

Some things are subjective, such as looks and sound. But performance and price wise, they are objective. As long as you know what you are getting into and you still prefer the Daystar despite it having poorer performance, higher price and poorer resale value, then go ahead and get it. What I hate to see is someone getting the wrong information and getting disappointed after buying a bike.

 

By the way, people prefer the Harley because of its prestige, sound and attention grabbing abilities. Not only that, the performance of the Harley doesn't necessarily lose to its Japanese counterparts. Moreover, I believe the resale value of Harleys to be quite high. That time I saw a ten over years-old Road King selling for like $15,000 and its original price is about $40,000. I think because the demand is there and its made in the USA

[cxz6666]

There was this thread on Phantom vs Daelim bikes but I don't know why it is so hard to find. But here it is:

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-123859.html

[plasticblackspecs]

Some things are subjective, such as looks and sound. But performance and price wise, they are objective. As long as you know what you are getting into and you still prefer the Daystar despite it having poorer performance, higher price and poorer resale value, then go ahead and get it. What I hate to see is someone getting the wrong information and getting disappointed after buying a bike.

 

By the way, people prefer the Harley because of its prestige, sound and attention grabbing abilities. Not only that, the performance of the Harley doesn't necessarily lose to its Japanese counterparts. Moreover, I believe the resale value of Harleys to be quite high. That time I saw a ten over years-old Road King selling for like $15,000 and its original price is about $40,000. I think because the demand is there and its made in the USA

 

Seriously, and no offense, Harley isn't that great a machine. And relatively speaking, it depreciated around half, which is still a lot. In fact most bikes deprecitate a lot from first hand in the next 5 yrs. If you buy a first hand Road King at 40k and sell it 5 years later at 20k, you'd lose 20k. But you buy a first hand Daystar at say 7k and sell it at $400, you lose 6.5k. Again relatively speaking, you lose less money.

 

Performance and looks-wise, I say again no offense, I think a Daystar looks a lot more spiffier and riding feel and stance feels better than a Phantom. I tried my friend's and I was actually glad that I didn't get one cos to me it felt like a RXZ. Was riding a Magma 125 back then in case you wanted to know.

 

Yes Phantoms are better in performance and price and parts etc, but end of the day, the guy has did his research and his decision. It wasn't like he was asking for the difference between Phantoms and Daystars, he was just asking for info on Daystars.

 

But yes, cxz6666 do have a point there, do be forewarned, Daelim's stuff are hard to come by, expensive to start with (can get a class 2A bike for what you're paying for a 2B bike) depreciates like sh*t going down a drain with a strong flush, not everyone can service the bike and seems like parts are controlled by agent so no matter what still have to go back to them, which means super ex. Go get a 2nd/3rd/4/th/5th etc hand Daystar if you really wanna get one cos I'm sure you'll upgrade again.

 

FYI, I got my Magma 125 around 1.5k. Didin't know jack sh&^ about it, ended up front brakes got problem couldn't fix and parts would have cost too much, gear got problem, chain keeps dropping off, in the end sold it for around $500 or so, the buyer took it to Malaysia to do up or something like that. But it was a fun bike That's when I got to know SBF and Cruisers and later Kruzers. \m/

[cutejunk]

hi cutejunk,

so how is daystar after riding it? overall stats? maintanance high ma? as in the basic wear and tear. how do u feel riding daystar?

 

previously rode a runner, this daystar definitely feels better and safer, though slower, 120-130. haha. i like its heavy weight. maintanance is cheap for me; $30. as mine is a FBB, last batch of 125cc, i still haven encounter much wear and tear. i clocked abt 580k for my full tank (keep a bottle of 1L petrol wif u).

 

a daystar's paintwork is very important, for it to be outstanding. add abit of accessories and mod, and u get a harley-daelimson.

[cxz6666]

Seriously, and no offense, Harley isn't that great a machine. And relatively speaking, it depreciated around half, which is still a lot. In fact most bikes deprecitate a lot from first hand in the next 5 yrs. If you buy a first hand Road King at 40k and sell it 5 years later at 20k, you'd lose 20k. But you buy a first hand Daystar at say 7k and sell it at $400, you lose 6.5k. Again relatively speaking, you lose less money.

 

Well, I take it that you own a Harley? I'm very curious about how you calculate depreciation and also, a 1200cc Harley is not comparable to a 125cc Daelim.

 

I owned a Daystar for one and a half years and I did plenty of research before I bought it. But still, it wasn't enough. Like I said, if the threadstarter has done his research and knows how bad the Daystar is compared to other bikes and still wants to buy it, then go ahead. I'm stopping nobody

[jemmo]

(keep a bottle of 1L petrol wif u).

 

Hheheh .. i shd learn i always run out of petrol wahaha

 

Our COI in Jan friend can consider. Go view lor, no harm. The bike tested and proven already. And he do up quite a bit. Nice looking. Right Jemo?

 

yup it's pretty nice! and he's actually considering keeping it since it has such long range, tank + consumption. yes yes don't need to remind that a pulsar can beat that, i don't think you could really use that as a comparison. Like how you can't compare a harley and a daystar? same difference.

 

Looks wise, well subjective yes. but thats the biggest cause in the difference of the price, the subjective things that you can't measure. that makes idiots like me buy the daystar even though we know the listed one million and one flaws, we still get it. and mind you i met quite a few riders that love their daystar and have been riding them for years. though i probably won't be one of them.

 

i can't be bothered to quote well but there are a few sellers who do sell their daystar for more than 500 so don't let worry you. i remember a fr or ft who sold at i think 1.2 or 1.3. it's a little extreme to use the lowest selling price you can find as a comparison to the most expensive buying price.

 

Anyway to the guy who is interested, roy the mech at CKA kaki bukit was telling me FS plate going around 2k, so thats much better that a mentioned 3k for a 7yr bike.

 

hahah daystar warriors? i'd surrender!

[cxz6666]

yup it's pretty nice! and he's actually considering keeping it since it has such long range, tank + consumption. yes yes don't need to remind that a pulsar can beat that, i don't think you could really use that as a comparison. Like how you can't compare a harley and a daystar? same difference.

 

A Daystar can't be compared to a Harley because because one is 1200cc and the other is 125cc. How can you compare their pricing and depreciation?

 

i can't be bothered to quote well but there are a few sellers who do sell their daystar for more than 500 so don't let worry you. i remember a fr or ft who sold at i think 1.2 or 1.3. it's a little extreme to use the lowest selling price you can find as a comparison to the most expensive buying price.

 

Anyway to the guy who is interested, roy the mech at CKA kaki bukit was telling me FS plate going around 2k, so thats much better that a mentioned 3k for a 7yr bike.

 

Firstly, in the past month, there have been two FR plates going for $500 and $800and you call that extreme?

 

Secondly, if $2K is the price they are selling, then so much the better. By the way Jemmo, I based the price of $3k on your post in April of this year, which you mentioned as $2.8k for an FR plate Daystar from CKA:

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2798276&postcount=118

 

So I guess the price of a Daystar has dropped drastically huh? That's great