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SBF Classic Vespa's Cafe 2009 / 2010

Vesphan

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azahoneystar Newbie

azahoneystar

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The girlfriend wants a bubble visor.

And I need to wash my bike. Some idiotic foolish imbecile poured hot wax on

my bike. Lucky only a few drops. I think my Vespa attracts too much

attention... Hahaha~

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-ResiDue-

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u never covered your scoot???...

ahahahah..

finally succumber to spousal pressure..

you are now the b*tch in the relationship...

ahaha..kidding kidding

-= Unsure of what to get=-

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any one? mass order?

 

 

 

Hi. I was asked to comment on this.

 

>>The guys that started Sterling Scooter Parts used to work for him, and in fact were the guys who came up with the design for the tubeless rim. After a fall out they parted ways and Sterling came out with the Stainless rims. Scootrs say that stainless is too brittle to be used in a wheel application, Sterling disagree.

 

That is completely false. Whoever told you that is making up a story. Let me try to clarify:

 

1) I'm sure some guy on an assembly line somewhere claims he designed the iPod too. We have many workers in our factory but the guys welding and painting didn't design them either. I personally designed our tubeless rim myself based on modern tubeless rims. The big problem was the stud holes because the hubs are so large. I had to try a few things to get them to work. You can see our world-first prototype in Sticky's Lambretta manual - in stainless. Then you can read the Scootering Magazine reviews of our first design after that, then another of our later one with safety bead. There are no magazine reviews of the knockoff of our old design you mention, for obvious reason.

 

2) A known thief claiming otherwise is pretty sad. We did fire a local Vietnamese guy maybe 2 years ago for poor work (too many customer claims) and theft of money after we did an investigation, and he was arrested by the police along with a girl also involved in theft of money in shipping. The two thieves then started Sterling/Spaq together. She also stole some private info and called some customers pretending to be scootRS, that sort of thing. He also stole some products from the shop and made rough copies of them, deliberately made to look like ours to trick consumers. For example, a rough sandcast disc brake kit made to look externally like our high-pressure cast one, a copy of our old tubeless rim design, exhausts with rough welds but made to look like ours, etc. They sell many local market items that we do inhouse to get better quality. Recently the police raided his house - it was on TV and full-page in the newspapers here with family handcuffed to the wall - when they broke up a big theft ring his family was involved in. Members of his extended family have come to us asking for jobs because they refuse to work with him. Gives you a good overview of these people.

 

3) We never said stainless was too brittle, we said it is more brittle than regular steel and is unproven on a solid rim over the long-term. (There are none made for other vehicles.) The thief only knew that we made our prototype in stainless but didn't know we held off selling it for safety reasons. He did zero testing - he didn't even graduate from high-school and wouldn't know the first thing about the properties of stainless, but he sold it to consumers who were unsuspecting guinea pigs testing it. We only recently started offering a stainless version openly because (thankfully) no reported problems heard of to date, though we still have a warning on our website so people know upfront. People selling knockoffs don't tell you anything about that because they don't know or care.

 

So, if you want tubeless rims for both Vespa and Lambretta, you have:

 

1) a local Vietnam market knockoff of our old design by the above thieves, welding a little rough, and no safety bead. Bizarrely, they try to charge even more than...

 

2) the original by scootRS, full backup and quality control by a Western-owned business, reviewed over 3 issues of Scootering. Now on our 3rd generation design complete with safety bead. Starts at only $39!

 

>>So, assuming that the mild steel coming out of Vietnam is likely to be of similar quality as that coming out of Indonesia, I'd stick with the Fabbri rims that we can currently get here...

 

Quality depends heavily upon the thickness and manufacturing, of course, not just the raw material. I've never seen one so can't comment, but read they are very soft and no safety bead like ours. Our latest design is based upon years of experience from the time we invented them, and are thicker than before. Check them out.

 

>>swans and cep... don't give business to ScootRs if you can help it. US forum...

 

It's unfortunate that a guy running one US forum you mention you visit doesn't like it that we have told people he is selling knockoffs, but nothing we can do about that except state the facts politely. Most people are fine, but there are also unfortunately a number of real loudmouths on US forums who are quite ignorant and hate anything from Asia, and you can't change that. With other guys if you ever post and dare to disagree they become hostile. Crazy, when the whole reason for a forum is discussion, but what can you do?

 

If curious about scootRS, try the LCGB forum where you'll find civil discussion by very knowledgable scooter people - and an excellent rep for scootRS products. There's a reason why we supply the shops everywhere. See our recent blog posts on how we've had to move and expand our factory recently due to demand.

 

Hope that helps clarify :-)

 

If any questions, don't hesitate to email us and ask. We have quite a few customers in Singapore already but always nice to hear from more.

 

Cheers.

 

Our tubeless rims are here.

 

http://scootrs.com/images/lambretta/rim_tubeless_bead.jpg

zen n 2wheels maintenance Newbie

zen n 2wheels maintenance

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btw Hi Zen, it was nice bumping into u yesterday.. i really like ur jacket where u got it from?

 

haha, yah was really surprise to see you there too :) got me jacket from esprit, donkey years ago though and it my only 'water proof' jacket for now :)

 

when u wana spray your bike? msg me hah :) think i when i spray mine.. weather wasn't that good too but i park at multi-story carpark so not that bad.

 

fluff, am sad for u too... can't imagine if i ever have to let go of ma vespa , will be very sad tooo.. we pillion u next time haha :)

 

where's wildswan??? in recovery?

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