What Gear do you guys wear.

[ang3lxx]

may get heatstroke and die sia

[Kazama]

confirm die

imgaine he eat some roti prata or nasi lemak frm a roadside stall

he go nan bei da dao

then suddenly stomachache wan to lau sai

and found out the nt exist is 10km away..

how to get out of that monkey suit?

heh heh

[yappiez]

Originally posted by xiaowang@Dec 6 2005, 11:39 PM

Bikers are a rare breed here

U missed out "Responsible" in front of this statment.

[yappiez]

http://www.oxtar.com/oxtar/img/catalogo/prodotti/55_big.jpg

 

I wear this about 10 hrs on workdays and I have no problems with heat or water leaking in when it rains.

[gabng]

hi yappiez,

What is the beand n model of that riding boots? Can advise where to get em?

[yohji]

I wear a Dainese MakMak D-Dry jacket, Alpinestar SMX gloves and OGK RGX full face helmet in this hot weather. I believe in proper riding gear. Make it a habit and attitude. Once you are used to it, it'll be okay.

 

BTW saving up for a pair of pants and boots. : )

[tingchiyen]

Originally posted by gabng@Dec 8 2005, 06:01 PM

hi yappiez,

What is the beand n model of that riding boots? Can advise where to get em?

it's the oxtar stealth goretex boot. go get it at chiaplee.

[DeusExMachina]

Originally posted by actionong@Dec 2 2005, 05:42 AM

Wow! ... you guys are a bunch of squids!

 

Thank you for the input. I intend to ride for recreation only. From the looks of it, has to be on weekend in the early morning, when it's cool enough to wear gear. There are a lot of great roads in the SF Bay area, (check out http://www.pashnit.com) so we are spoiled for choice. However, track days can be expensive. Usually about $150+ USD. I heard that Pasir Gudang track costs about $50RM? Win some lose some I suppose.

 

Who are the prominent gear dealers in Singapore? I value my pinkies very much indeed, so I will be riding when it's cool and comfy enough. Any recommendations on gear will be great.

 

If anyone wants to come over for vacation, I'd be happy to show you some roads and recommend some rentals. M/C rentals range from a Harley to BMW to CBR600RR. Cost about $120 USD/day with insurance and usually unlimited miles.

 

Thank you again.

 

Yes we are. Tentacles and all.

 

But for those of us who do the Weekend Warrior thing, we usually have gear for that.

 

But for daily commuting, most of us are in our casuals or work wear. We don't wear full leathers to go to work. Know why??

 

Cos I tells ya... It really sucks to turn up at the office looking like the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers....

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/PowerRangers.jpg

[scooterer]

Of the 136,122 motorbikes on Singapore's roads in 2004, 105,178 were 200 cc and below. That's 77%. Average price when new tend to be in the USD 2,000-3,000 range. Income level is probably about USD 500 or thereabouts a month. At that price range and its associated income level its hard to buy a Dianese jacket.

 

When the average bike is 125 cc, everybody's a squid.

 

Those above 500 cc account for a mere 6% of total bike population.

[ReBornBikeR]

Originally posted by actionong@Dec 1 2005, 05:15 PM

Hi,

 

I'll be moving to Singapore soon, from the San Francisco Bay Area. I'd like know what gear you guys wear in that wonderful hot weather.

 

I have the Arai Quantum/f, and full leathers, boots, gloves, back protector etc. when I ride.

Wear as much protective gears as you can tolerate, as you know the weather here is extremely hot and humid unless it rains

 

I wear my JoeRocket Pheonix mesh jacket, Arai helmet, jeans, leather gloves and Magnum leather boots when I ride at night.

 

In the day I will be in my brightly coloured tee shirt (Red or Yellow) and jeans with leather gloves and leather boots complete with my helmet.

 

Most riders in Asia don't wear protective riding gears because of the hot weather, guess you guys are very fortunate to be living in cooler country.

 

Finally, ride defensively at all times, don't split lanes and don't weave in and out of other vehicles, always give way to taxi/cab, lorrys, buses & Mercedes & BMWs and most of all make sure all your lights are working.

 

You might survive longer on the road :sweat:

[ArBokia]

i wear full protective but my gal wear mini skirt and tube.... haiz

[ReBornBikeR]

It's OK, wear whatever you think your body and skins are worth

[William Tan]

Tattoo Dainese on your arms and thighs....

 

There you go, your very own riding jacket and pants.

 

Leather will repair on its own, over time.

[rhema83]

Welcome to Singapore. If you read my signature you'll notice that I moved from Singapore to NY, so I went through the reverse of the culture shock which you are about to experience.

 

First, Singaporeans don't respect bikers. Riding is an inexpensive form of transport for most, and true enthusiasts are rare. Since it is merely a form of commute, riders wear whatever that is convenient - not whatever that is safe. Where the trip on two wheels takes him to is more important than the trip itself. If he is on his way to work, he'd wear his shirt and pants. If he is on his way to a party, he'd wear his hip clothes.

 

We don't think of these riders as squids, especially when the hot weather in Singapore - often above 80F - makes wearing even the thinnest fabric (Cordura or similar) unbearable. They are sacrificing safety for practicality, which is in my opinion reasonable.

 

Ironically, people who do wear protective gear are often labelled squids, because most Singaporean riders do not realize the importance of protection - until they are scarred for life. They think that riding apparel is overkill for the deceptively dangerous Singapore roads, and that it is mainly for looks. As much as these people are mistaken, many riders value other's opinion more than their own lives and choose not to protect themselves.

 

In contrast, when I first rode in town in summer, wearing my short-sleeved shirt and shorts, I had local riders stopping beside me at the lights, looking very concerned and asking me to get proper gear. Even friends in college asked me to better dress up for the ride. Of course, I geared up. I rode to NYC in summer (200 mi each way) wearing a mesh armored jacket and to Toronto (300 mi each way) in fall wearing my one-piece leather suit. Nobody gave me a weird look. In fact, I receive thumbs up at toll booths and at the border.

 

I guess I have shared enough of my experience and opinion to illustrate the difference between the two riding cultures. However, you should still dress for the ride in Singapore, practically. Full face helmet, and perforated gloves are musts. Jeans are probably fine for daily riding, but you definitely want something more for touring. Mesh jackets are also gaining popularity.

 

Finally, try to get your gear in the Bay area or online. Riding apparel is much cheaper in the US if you know where to look. Just buy the helmet in Singapore. (Arai helmets are cheaper in Singapore than US.)

 

Good luck, and ride safe. I stopped riding a couple of months ago when the temperature was hitting the low 40's and 30's Farenheit, and my car is under at least a foot of snow right now! (Damn, I gotta shovel snow again tomorrow morning in sub-10F weather!)

[yohji]

Wow .. well said .. the authorities in Singapore should start campaigns to educate everyone on safety gears. It should become a culture. Hope that next time pple won't stare at me like an alien when I wear a riding jacket on a hot sunny day.

 

Anyway I am seeing more and more professionals who enjoy riding bikes (doctors, lawyers, etc) because they think that driving is plain boring. But most Singaporeans still consider riders as 2nd class citizens on the road. They think that only hooligans or poorly educated pple ride bikes. That shows how narrow-minded they are. We REALLY need to change these mindsets. BTW safety is a mindset too : )

[Getz_Ard]

Well said bro yohji. We r not 2nd citizens!

 

Maybe the image of bikers have been tarnished by irresponsible riders, riding fast without due care to other road users.

 

 

Safety is indeed the 1st priority for bikers. ren bao tei!

[yohji]

Originally posted by Getz_Ard@Dec 14 2005, 07:03 PM

Well said bro yohji. We r not 2nd citizens!

 

Maybe the image of bikers have been tarnished by irresponsible riders, riding fast without due care to other road users.

 

 

Safety is indeed the 1st priority for bikers. ren bao tei!

Yes because over the years (ever since I was a small kid), my elders kept telling me bikers are gangsters, hooligans, etc (which was true back then in the 80s and 90s). This has already put a bad image of bikers in my brain.

 

But after I become a biker myself, I started to realise that the biking scene is changing. I hope pple will start to realise this and change their thinking and attitude towards bikes on the road.

 

We as bikers should also do something to change the way pple think of us. Having proper safety gear and riding attitude is one of them : )

[contrarian]

Dress up IN CASE OF accident - OCT 13, 2005

The Electric New Paper - Singapore news. Find the latest news reports

here.

http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfriendly...9,95836,00.html

 

The Electric New Paper :

Dress up IN CASE OF accident

Bikers must learn to protect themselves, say 'Hog Doc'

Motorcyclists are most vulnerable to road accidents. Yet, few wear

adequate protective gear.

By Zaihan Mohamed Yusof

 

13 October 2005

HERE'S the irony: Motorcyclists are the most vulnerable road users,

yet most of those you see on the road don't seem to be wearing proper

protective gear.

 

Worse, many also tend to be reckless.

 

The statistics are sobering - last year, 94 motorcyclists and pillion

riders were killed in accidents, say the police. More than 4,500

escaped with injuries.

 

Sometimes, even with the right gear and training, things can go

tragically wrong.

 

On Sunday, a traffic police outrider died when his motorcycle skidded

along Yio Chu Kang road. He had serious chest injuries. And he was

wearing proper gear.

 

The average rider doesn't even bother to gear up.

 

Said Dr James Travers, an Accident and Emergency doctor at Alexandra

Hospital: 'Riders should dress appropriately for a fall and not for

the ride.

 

'You will never know when you are going to get into an accident. But

if you're dressed for it, you'll suffer less serious injuries.'

 

Dr Travers, 51, said his advice comes from 10 years' experience at

National University Hospital and Alexandra Hospital.

 

He said: 'On average, we see three or four motorcycle accident

victims a day. They come in with abrasions and superficial cuts. If

it rains, we see more that day.'

 

Every three months or so, he comes across riders or pillion riders

who die in road accidents.

 

Between January and March this year, 24 motorcyclists and pillion

riders were killed and more than 1,100 people were injured while

riding.

 

Dr Travers, who is from the UK, says he hopes to educate bikers based

on his experience, not only as an emergency room doctor but also as a

rider.

 

Come rain or shine, the good doctor has been riding his Harley-

Davidson daily for the past four years.

 

From 1988 to 1994, he was a track doctor at Donnington Park race

circuit in the UK.

 

YOUNG RIDERS

 

Better known to his Harley buddies as 'Hog Doc', he said most of the

motorcycle accident victims he has treated were 'young, small bike

riders'.

 

These bikers can be spotted on the roads wearing slippers, T-shirts,

shorts and unapproved helmets, he said.

 

Dr Travers, who loves to ride in Singapore because of its 'eternal

summer climate', said: 'Out of 10 riders, perhaps only two observe

the proper riding attire, that is, a good helmet, gloves, jacket and

boots.' This view is shared by Mr Ramani Muthu, Executive

(Operations) for motorcycling at Singapore Safety Driving Centre.

 

Said Mr Ramani, 44: 'Out of 10 riders, you will see maybe two or

three wearing gloves.

 

'This is odd, because at the riding school students are taught to

wear gloves, helmets, elbow pads and kneepads. It seems they easily

forget about safety.'

 

Riders are prone to neck or chest injuries especially during hard

impact.

 

Said Dr Travers: 'Riders can die as a result of internal bleeding. In

30 minutes, a person can lose half a litre to one litre of blood.'

 

In a trauma crash, where the victim hits a solid object like a wall

or a car, the arteries may be severed, starving blood supply to the

spinal chord and brain.

 

DOUBLE WHAMMY

 

Said Dr Travers: 'When riders are thrown over the handlebars in a

crash, the chances of them waking up in an intensive care ward are

pretty high. That's because the bike usually follows you after the

crash and slams into you. It's a double whammy.'

 

He advises riders not to stay on the road after an accident. They

should get away from crash sites as they could be hit by oncoming

vehicles.

 

Added Dr Travers: 'Never compete with cars. I have an exclusion zone -

I accelerate or get out of the way whenever a bigger vehicle comes

too close. I never squeeze between vehicles.

 

'Bikers should ride in one lane, just like a car, and not at the

sides of lanes.'

 

 

 

 

 

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Gear up for a safe ride - OCT 13, 2005

The Electric New Paper - Singapore news. Find the latest news reports

here.

http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfriendly...9,95837,00.html

 

 

The Electric New Paper :

Gear up for a safe ride

WHAT kind of gear do you need for safe motorcycle riding? Here is a

check list.

13 October 2005

WHAT kind of gear do you need for safe motorcycle riding? Here is a

check list.

 

HELMET

 

Invest in a full-face or good open-face helmet.

 

Said Dr James Travers, who uses a $400 open-face helmet for

commuting: 'Half-shell helmets may look cool, but they offer no

protection.'

 

Helmets should be replaced after three years because the internal

parts become weak over time.

 

JACKET

 

A good riding jacket, preferably with Kevlar stitching and armour at

the shoulders and elbows, can prevent serious injuries to the limbs.

 

Kevlar jackets are expensive, but leather jackets are just as good.

Denim is the cheapest alternative.

 

Said Mr Shah Oli, 46, of Bike Tech 21, a motorcycle performance and

safety riding apparel shop: 'I have noticed smaller bike riders

spending more on beautifying their motorcycles.

 

'Serious bikers invest in performance parts and also the best safety

gear.'

 

Mr Shah, who has been racing and organising track days at Sepang and

Pasir Gudang for 17 years, said riders 'should spend a bit more to

buy quality safety gear which will last'.

 

Several companies have introduced jackets suitable for our climate.

 

The latest by Rev It are lined with Air Mesh, which has little holes

that allow the jacket to breathe, said Mr Shah.

 

The $390 jackets have elbow and shoulder pads and temper foam.

 

'The temper foam absorbs impact well,' said Mr Shah, who survived a

crash at Pasir Gudang at 260kmh last year, with just a fractured

ankle.

 

GLOVES

 

Riders often end up with fractured or broken fingers when they try to

break falls using unprotected hands.

 

Leather gloves can prevent your fingers 'from going to shreds', said

Dr Travers.

 

BOOTS

 

Feet need protection too. Leather boots with ankle support are

recommended for motorcyclists.

[AsHaRiE]

Nice article indeed.. gee.. i'm classified as young rider.. khekehke shirt berms n sandals.. hehe

[Constructicon]

Those who wear full gear;

 

When u go shopping, u also lug ur jackets and riding pants along, or just dump inside the box?

Cos now that I juz got myself a full set of riding gear, the tot of lugging it ard and going shopping really quite sian. But L-L, took an accident to realise the pain of being 'naked'.

 

So, u guys carry ur stuff ard?

[yohji]

Originally posted by Constructicon@Dec 30 2005, 01:50 AM

Those who wear full gear;

 

When u go shopping, u also lug ur jackets and riding pants along, or just dump inside the box?

Cos now that I juz got myself a full set of riding gear, the tot of lugging it ard and going shopping really quite sian. But L-L, took an accident to realise the pain of being 'naked'.

 

So, u guys carry ur stuff ard?

I carry my stuff around. But now I do not have riding pants yet. My bike got no box.

 

Carry around loh. No choice. Anyway you can wear your jacket while shopping mah, just unzip the front to let air go in. But pple will keep on looking loh. Either they find you cool or they find you crazy. That's what I don't like. Eveyone look at you like an alien or a show-off.

 

Frankly speaking, I don't know how to fold a riding jacket with armour. The best I can do is to just fold it and let it hang around my arms. It's too rigid to fold and squeeze into a bag. Anyone can share tips on this?

[william_liu]

For me..... I think I'm the crazy one, I bought a bike to accomodate my riding gear!

 

 

But seriously, it's not easy to fold a riding jacket, especially if it comes with a back protector.

 

The best solution/compromise I can think of is to buy a chain and chain to your bike, then cover the bike to deter vandals. Install a sensitive alarm will also help....

[RollinMao]

SBO + Helmet + underwear.

[Constructicon]

Originally posted by william_liu@Dec 30 2005, 08:25 AM

For me..... I think I'm the crazy one, I bought a bike to accomodate my riding gear!

 

 

But seriously, it's not easy to fold a riding jacket, especially if it comes with a back protector.

 

The best solution/compromise I can think of is to buy a chain and chain to your bike, then cover the bike to deter vandals. Install a sensitive alarm will also help....

I'm already chaining my helmets to my bike, now I think L-L have to carry the jackets ard. A serious killjoy man, those who carry will know.

 

If wear the jackets and go shopping, it will sure garner weird looks. Cos the biking culture here generally doesn't encourage safety gear, sad to say.

 

And thieves, those low lifes. Seems to be very prevalent these days, steal ut parts, pry ur boxes. Pathetic.

[contrarian]

Originally posted by Constructicon@Dec 30 2005, 01:50 AM

Those who wear full gear;

 

When u go shopping, u also lug ur jackets and riding pants along, or just dump inside the box?

Cos now that I juz got myself a full set of riding gear, the tot of lugging it ard and going shopping really quite sian. But L-L, took an accident to realise the pain of being 'naked'.

 

So, u guys carry ur stuff ard?

i put my ff helmet under my scooter seat and carry the jacket around.

it can't squeeze under the seat because of the back and other protectors.