Woopa!! Cbr1000rr Riders

[Tashi]

Originally posted by lEddyl@Feb 19 2005, 03:54 PM

interesting Gadget

 

Like a Bond vehicle, useful!

[3ddy]

Originally posted by Tashi@Feb 19 2005, 07:24 PM

SYTs all coming to my place tonight, all bringing passports. How?

they addicted ah? tonight sure jam leh

[chilly]

Originally posted by Raptor@Feb 19 2005, 01:54 PM

Actually I was hoping that people will feel sorry for my bony ass and out of pity donate money to me to get it Botoxed or maybe those resident Ah Quas there may just buy the helmet for me just to get my sorry ass out of there so as not to spoil the market for them. Whahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!

Botoxed ur ass for what !

Go for xtreme makeover lah !

They will transform u into Tom Kurus.

Wahahaha.....

[chilly]

Originally posted by lEddyl@Feb 19 2005, 03:54 PM

interesting Gadget

 

Wah stylo lah....

Will come in handy in Malaysian highway

[Tashi]

Originally posted by lEddyl@Feb 19 2005, 09:44 AM

Tashi, sorry ah. cant reply ur sms. slept the whole day.

Eddy, no prob. Late work? SYT around 1.8m. Lingerie model, you like?

 

Jerry, can't go KKFC to meet you all. So bz today fixing p computers.

 

I think Tom Kurus will probably org another Iranian Run next Sat, around 7pm. SYTs now very on.

[chilly]

Originally posted by Raptor@Feb 19 2005, 02:32 PM

My brother in law and me are going to go to Pasir Gudang tomorrow.

Maybe I too go play on the track. Maybe only... if not too crowded. I slow amatuer rider... virgin on the track.

 

Will be meeting at Esso GP at 0800hrs. He wants to make it for the 1000hrs to 1300hrs session.

 

Chilly, Tashi, Ideal, Eddy - u guys interested?? I think tomorrow got plenty of bikes to see.

 

Weather will be hot, breezy, sunny skies with intermittent breaks of cloud cover.

Would love to go there but have to give it a miss

Maybe next time Raptor.Love to see ur brother-in-law plays the track

with his Suzuki 1000 & the mods he has on his bike (21k of mods)

[chilly]

Tashi,with these SYT's topic lately,u sound like a wanabe 'PAPASAN' !!!

Wahaha....

[Raptor]

Originally posted by chilly@Feb 19 2005, 10:49 PM

Tashi,with these SYT's topic lately,u sound like a wanabe 'PAPASAN' !!!

Wahaha....

Sound like wannabe papasan????

 

I thought he was already one all along!!

 

And hello... since when my name now become Tom Kurus?? Tom Kurus rode a Kawa in the movie. I Repsol Honda lah....mebbe next movie.

 

Lucky I not Indian or else the name can also become Tom Kurusamy! And the theme song could be 'Highway to the Dalchar Zone' instead. Wahhahaha!!

 

PS - Joking only and no offense to the my indian friends intended.

[Raptor]

Finally after twenty over years of riding... I finally took a bike of mine onto a race track. I guess it is never too late to do some things.

 

Scared the hell outta myself on the chicane before the Start/Finish line twice as I went in too hot and down shifted too fast... started fishtailing for a bit but somehow by the grace of the Heavenly Gods manage to struggle through to the amusement and shock of the BikeTech 21 gang that were bearing down on me.

 

And once at the end of the main straight... again going too hot and downshifting one gear too much.

 

Trust me... the Repsol Honda looks sharp and fast, while it was parked in the pits. On the track......the rider was not up to the bike's capability. I did not do justice to the Repsol colours worn by the bike.

 

It was beginning to look like I bought a top of the line Fender Stratocaster but only good enough to play 'Mary had a little lamb' on it.

 

I will never make it as a motorcycle racer.... got to face that fact. Good thing I have a stable day time job.

 

But hell ya!!!! I have never had so much fun scaring the sh*t outta myself!!!

 

I know where I beat those guys so bad they couldn't smell my smoke.............................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was probably the oldest guy there!!!!!!!!!! No matter how hard they tried... none, not even one of them.... could overtake my age. Whahaaaaaaahahahahahahahah!!! :faint:

[Ken]

You can actually go through the whole track in 3rd gear.

While the straights can go 4th gear and chicane 2nd gear.

Try not to push on the straights and since we do not have slipper clutch, should blip the throttle before downshifting to prevent wheellock and fishtail.

Remember to get half of ur butt out before going into a corner.

 

Good experience rite, must be feeling young and dangerous again huh.

As long as u dun fall, u r having a good session man.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Ken@Feb 20 2005, 04:36 PM

You can actually go through the whole track in 3rd gear.

While the straights can go 4th gear and chicane 2nd gear.

Try not to push on the straights and since we do not have slipper clutch, should blip the throttle before downshifting to prevent wheellock and fishtail.

Remember to get half of ur butt out before going into a corner.

 

Good experience rite, must be feeling young and dangerous again huh.

As long as u dun fall, u r having a good session man.

You're right there about the gears. I never did use the 5th or 6th gear.

The rev limiter cut in on me once during the backstraight.

 

I am aware of blipping the throttle as I downshift... it was downshifting too much to a point the engine braking was so strong that it feels like I was stomping on the back brakes causing the bike to slide about.

 

And yeah, agree with you, any track session which has caused the balls to come to throat at least once with no off track expeditions can be called a good one that you have put some effort into.

 

But looks like the Diaoblo Corsas can be good for maybe another 2 or 3 sessions only.

 

Me? Feeling young and dangerous on the track?? What garbage are you talking about??

 

When they are young............ and sweet ........ that's when I get dangerous. Whahahahahah!!!

[jerryGSR]

ALL RIGHT.... looks likes another track addict has join the club.....

 

so raptor bro, games for the session on the 5th march? after tat we goin for a makan session..... all my friens n me are oso beginners..... all touring on track, relax jack.....

 

Ken..... u mai zhao....... u wanna come?

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Jerry7007@Feb 20 2005, 06:34 PM

ALL RIGHT.... looks likes another track addict has join the club.....

 

so raptor bro, games for the session on the 5th march? after tat we goin for a makan session..... all my friens n me are oso beginners..... all touring on track, relax jack.....

 

Ken..... u mai zhao....... u wanna come?

May not be possible due to work commitments.... I see how.

Got chance I will probably go. Confirm later.

 

Yeah you said it. All these years I avoided this drug.... today I tried the first shot.

 

Guess that's me......... I can resist anything but temptation.

[Raptor]

Ermmm..... hello people!!

Are we still going ahead with the Iranian Night Run??

I need to have names so that I can give the cook a heads up, coz the beef and steamed rice takes about 3 hours to prepare. He needs a 24 hour notice so that he can go do some marketing. Deadline for name inputs will be 25 Feb Friday 1200 noon.

 

By the way..... all Firebladers are welcomed to join coz you are paying for your own food. Whahhahahahaha!!!! This ain't no Feed the World Aid run.

 

You snooze, you lose. As for SYTs, you can snooze, we will wake you up in time for this trip.

 

For Tashi's Princess........... I will remind the cook about the fish.

 

Iranian Food Run Part II (The Empire Strikes Back)

Saturday 26 Feb 05

Meet at Esso GP 1930hrs.

 

Confirm can go:

 

1. Raptor aka Musang. (Keluar malam, cari ayam.)

2.

3.

4.

5.

 

Confirm later due work commitments or some stupid piss poor pathetic reason:

 

1. Mike the Worm ZX 10 (Need to check work schedule)

[Tashi]

Ermmm..... hello people!!

Are we still going ahead with the Iranian Night Run??

I need to have names so that I can give the cook a heads up, coz the beef and steamed rice takes about 3 hours to prepare. He needs a 24 hour notice so that he can go do some marketing. Deadline for name inputs will be 25 Feb Friday 1200 noon.

 

By the way..... all Firebladers are welcomed to join coz you are paying for your own food. Whahhahahahaha!!!! This ain't no Feed the World Aid run.

 

You snooze, you lose. As for SYTs, you can snooze, we will wake you up in time for this trip.

 

For Tashi's Princess........... I will remind the cook about the fish.

 

Iranian Food Run Part II (The Empire Strikes Back)

Saturday 26 Feb 05

Meet at Esso GP 1930hrs.

 

Confirm can go:

 

1. Raptor aka Musang. (Keluar malam, cari ayam.)

2. Tashi + 1 SYT

3.

4.

5.

 

Confirm later due work commitments or some stupid piss poor pathetic reason:

 

1. Mike the Worm ZX 10 (Need to check work schedule)

[jerryGSR]

Iranian Food Run Part II (The Empire Strikes Back)

Saturday 26 Feb 05

Meet at Esso GP 1930hrs.

 

Confirm can go:

 

1. Raptor aka Musang. (Keluar malam, cari ayam.)

2. Tashi + 1 SYT

3.

4.

5.

 

Confirm later due work commitments or some stupid piss poor pathetic reason:

 

1. Mike the Worm ZX 10 (Need to check work schedule)

2. jerry7007 + SYT (subjected to SYT approval 1st)

[Tashi]

Originally posted by Jerry7007@Feb 20 2005, 06:34 PM

ALL RIGHT.... looks likes another track addict has join the club.....

 

so raptor bro, games for the session on the 5th march? after tat we goin for a makan session..... all my friens n me are oso beginners..... all touring on track, relax jack.....

 

Ken..... u mai zhao....... u wanna come?

Jerry, what's the minimal track attire?

[Ken]

Originally posted by Tashi@Feb 21 2005, 03:22 PM

Jerry, what's the minimal track attire?

Wow Tashi, buay tahan already rite!!~

Ur D-Dry touring jacket is okie.

Jeans.

Gloves.

Full face helmet.

The boots i saw u wear b4 like all cannot pass.

I can lend u my army boots. $20 per day. hahahaha.

Think its time to get a good pair of boots. Can wear it for touring.

[Ken]

Jerry, i try to go.

Will cfm with u again.

If those going can make it on monring, its better to go in morning cos if not, the jam on the way back is more jia lut and the track will be very hot also, considering the weather now.

We will be stinkier than normal.

[jerryGSR]

Originally posted by Tashi@Feb 21 2005, 03:22 PM

Jerry, what's the minimal track attire?

bro.... u can refer to tis:

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....showtopic=65674

[Agustina]

Iranian Food Run Part II (The Empire Strikes Back)

Saturday 26 Feb 05

Meet at Esso GP 1930hrs.

 

Confirm can go:

 

1. Raptor aka Musang. (Keluar malam, cari ayam.)

2. Tashi + 1 SYT

3.

4.

5.

 

Confirm later due work commitments or some stupid piss poor pathetic reason:

 

1. Mike the Worm ZX 10 (Need to check work schedule)

2. jerry7007 + SYT (subjected to SYT approval 1st)

3. Agustina (Need to break a date)

[Raptor]

LATEST CHANGE!!!!

 

Hey people, slight change of plans....... we go in on Friday 25 Feb. Meeting time will be 8.30 pm at Esso GP. Sorry about this... hope you guys can still make it.

The cook will like to know how many people are expected so that he can go marketing. I told him I will confirm the numbers by Thursday noon. Plus minus 2 or 3 should not be a problem. So can you guys re-confirm?

 

 

Iranian Food Run Part II (The Empire Strikes Back)

FRIDAY 25 Feb 05

Meet at Esso GP 8.30 pm.

 

Confirm can go:

 

1. Raptor aka Musang. (Keluar malam, cari ayam.)

2. Tashi + 1 SYT

3.

4.

5.

 

Confirm later due work commitments or some stupid piss poor pathetic reason:

 

1. Mike the Worm ZX 10 (Need to check work schedule)

2. jerry7007 + SYT (subjected to SYT approval 1st)

3. Agustina (Need to break a date)

[Tashi]

LATEST CHANGE!!!!

 

Hey people, slight change of plans....... we go in on Friday 25 Feb. Meeting time will be 8.30 pm at Esso GP. Sorry about this... hope you guys can still make it.

The cook will like to know how many people are expected so that he can go marketing. I told him I will confirm the numbers by Thursday noon. Plus minus 2 or 3 should not be a problem. So can you guys re-confirm?

 

 

Iranian Food Run Part II (The Empire Strikes Back)

FRIDAY 25 Feb 05

Meet at Esso GP 8.30 pm.

 

Confirm can go:

 

1. Raptor aka Musang. (Keluar malam, cari ayam.)

2. Tashi + 1 SYT

3. Ideal

4. 5 pax (1 car)

5.

 

Confirm later due work commitments or some stupid piss poor pathetic reason:

 

1. Mike the Worm ZX 10 (Need to check work schedule)

2. jerry7007 + SYT (subjected to SYT approval 1st)

3. Agustina (Need to break a date)

[Ken]

LATEST CHANGE!!!!

 

Hey people, slight change of plans....... we go in on Friday 25 Feb. Meeting time will be 8.30 pm at Esso GP. Sorry about this... hope you guys can still make it.

The cook will like to know how many people are expected so that he can go marketing. I told him I will confirm the numbers by Thursday noon. Plus minus 2 or 3 should not be a problem. So can you guys re-confirm?

 

 

Iranian Food Run Part II (The Empire Strikes Back)

FRIDAY 25 Feb 05

Meet at Esso GP 8.30 pm.

 

Confirm can go:

 

1. Raptor aka Musang. (Keluar malam, cari ayam.)

2. Tashi + 1 SYT

3. Ideal

4. 5 pax (1 car)

5. Ken (thanks for changing the date.)

 

Confirm later due work commitments or some stupid piss poor pathetic reason:

 

1. Mike the Worm ZX 10 (Need to check work schedule)

2. jerry7007 + SYT (subjected to SYT approval 1st)

3. Agustina (Need to break a date)

[Ken]

Since we are blowing some 'Track wind' here, this article might be interesting.

 

CBR1000RR Track Review

 

 

2004 has turned out to be the year of the Liter bike. Up until now, the Suzuki has been the benchmark that everyone has been shooting for. Now for 2004, there is pretty stiff competition from all of the manufactures. Over the years, I have been fortunate enough to have raced a variety of different motorcycles. With Honda I have raced an F4 and a VTR-1000, with Kawasaki it has been ZX6Rs and a ZX9R, and with Suzuki it has been a GSXR-750 and my current race bike, a 2004 GSXR-1000. There have also been a few exotics thrown in with an Aprilia Mille R and a Ducati 998R. I always enjoyed riding my Hondas. They always gave me the feeling of the bike being truly “mine”. They always seem to have great ergonomics, and best of all never seemed to break.

I was able to ride the CBR along with the ZX-10 and the GSXR at California Speedway earlier this year. I wasn’t able to spend much time on the bikes, but I was fastest on the Honda, and to me it was the easiest bike to ride. So I was pretty exited when I was able to get an all black CBR1000RR and I would get to spend some time doing trackdays on it. I was able to take the CBR to Laguna for a trackday for some practice for the upcoming AMA national. I don’t have a lot of track time at Laguna, and I wanted to ride something that would be easy to ride and not hard to get set up. The bike I had was completely stock with 80 miles on it. The only addition was a set of Michelin 17” slicks. The weather wasn’t all that great with cool temps and the wind really blowing. The wind was so strong that I was afraid to wheelie out of 11 with fear of being blown over! The track wasn’t very grippy because of the cool temps and turn 3 certainly confirmed that with plenty of crashes there that day.

 

Suspension/Geometry

 

I did some initial suspension set up but I didn’t vary too far from stock. My first impression was that the front and rear were very imbalanced. The front was very soft and the rear of the bike felt tall. I added quite a bit of preload and raised the front along with some compression and this helped quite a bit. Throughout the day I kept adjusted the clickers and sags to get the bikes balance where I liked it. After a couple of sessions of getting the bike and myself up to speed, I could tell I was going to like this bike. Initial turn in is slightly slow and feels heavy, but once over in the turn, the bike would hold its line superbly and if needed to go wherever you wanted pointed it. I found myself planning my turn in points slightly early and to not rush the corner. This plan seemed to work the best, as I could use the excellent feedback from the rear suspension to get an early drive out. Feedback from the front was excellent as well. Grip levels from both the front and rear were excellent except when the rear tire started to go off in the last sessions. The rear tire would burn up pretty good, but the bikes feedback allowed me to stay on the throttle hard and keep driving. The CBR could be trailbraked into a turn pretty well, but I felt it could have been better. I’m sure that the stock fork springs and valving had plenty to do with that, allowing the front end to be too low in the travel going into some of the turns. The stock steering damper worked pretty well except at higher speeds. Coming over turn one flat out in forth gear the bike felt like it was going ridged because the damper was tightening up so much. I think a regular Scotts or Ohlins would be the choice to put on.

The stock suspension components work pretty well but there is a huge amount of potential locked up in the bike and it’s just waiting for an Ohlins shock and fork revalve to turn it into an even better machine. I think that there may also be something in the HRC linkage that would allow even better traction from the rear as the tire started to go off. I also believe the long swingarm has quite a bit to do with how the bike works. The CBR has great front end feedback and doesn’t want to wheelie all that bad, which I feel is due to the swingarm length. Overall a pretty easy bike to setup and if I ever raced one I know which direction I would want to take the chassis. That says quite a bit for the Honda as I still haven’t quite figured out which way my Suzuki wants to go!

 

Ergonomics:

 

Typical Honda, excellent. The bike was easy to ride and not tiring at all.

Ground clearance was a big issue though, as I was touching down both footpegs pretty easily. Time for some rearsets that would incorporate GP shifting.

 

Brakes:

 

I did have to bleed out the stock brake fluid but after that they worked excellent. Very little lever fade and after bleeding stayed very powerful. Surprisingly, the stock pads did not wear very well. After one trackday (granted very hard braking) they were pretty much worn out. Time for some HRC pads!

 

Gearing:

 

The stock gearing was waaay too tall. Both the front and rear Michelin’s I put were quite a bit taller so that didn’t help the situation. Even so, I only used second and third gear all the way around the track except for fourth gear on the front straight. Stock gearing is 16/41 and depending on what tires you are using I am going to go with a 15/42. This would allow you to use the rest of the gearbox to its full potential. 520 would also help save some big weight.

 

Motor:

 

Here I was somewhat disappointed. While of course the CBR is by no means a slow motorcycle I feel somewhat cheated. The bike does not seem to want to accelerate very quickly. Some of this can be contributed to the gearing, but I had a hard time pulling away from an AMA prepped 600 supersport bike. It feels like the bike has a heavy flywheel or crankshaft. Obviously there is some serious motor in there somewhere as witnessed by the AMA boys, but in stock form it’s lacking. I believe that it’s choked up with both the exhaust and the intake. Probably equal on both parts. I’m sure a good exhaust, power commander and some intake changes will wake it up. Dan Kyle help us! The stock fuel mapping seemed pretty good with no annoying on/off throttle problems like my Suzuki had. I also got tagged for going over the 90 db. Sound limit that Laguna has. This was a little surprising again considering how corked up the bike is.

 

Overall a great motorcycle with some serious untapped potential. Amazing to be able to take stock motorcycle in less than perfect weather conditions and be able to run into the 1:34’s. And to do it easily. I never felt like the bikes weight was a problem except when it was time to push it into the back of my truck. I can only image how much better the bike could be if it weighed 50 lbs less. The CBR1000RR has some serious potential tucked in there somewhere.

 

I also got a chance to take a ride for a few laps on another CBR1000RR that had some prep work done by Dan Kyle. It had the forks revalved, an Ohlins shock and A HRC rear link. I rode the bike at the beginning of the day and after getting back on mine the changes made a HUGE difference. I could easily tell the bike worked better. I didn’t want to make any changes to his bike as I needed to understand the Honda’s characteristics first, but after spending a day on mine and seeing what they like, I know I can make his even better.

 

 

Ken Hill

 

 

Here's the link anyway, with some debatings going on.

http://www.motorush.com/forums/messageview...&threadid=32528