Woopa!! Cbr1000rr Riders

[Tashi]

Originally posted by chilly@Mar 1 2005, 09:19 PM

I thought ur changing to MV Agusta ?

I'm still woking on it.

 

Meantime, have to settle with MV Augustina.

[chilly]

Originally posted by Tashi@Mar 1 2005, 09:23 PM

I'm still woking on it.

 

Meantime, have to settle with MV Augustina.

MV Agustina..........

Wahahahaha......

[chilly]

Originally posted by Tashi@Mar 1 2005, 09:17 PM

Going to KL to party that weekend. It's F1 again!

I'll have to skip..... many problems awaits me in March

 

Just hope my problems ends in March & don't drag to the following month.

 

Tashi , u should know !

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Tashi@Mar 1 2005, 09:10 PM

Mine is according to specs. With pillion, it's fine. Without, I suggest you adjust your suspension according to your weight.

Yeah, agree with you there Tashi.

I think our suspension settings by the factory is not meant for lean mean hungry mean machines like me.

 

I think it is meant for heavier Caucasians. I softened the rebound and damping on the front and rear by 1/2 turn but I think it is not enough. Looks I gotta soften the preload on the front forks and rear suspension too.

 

Hey what about you guys, my fellow CBR1000RR brothers??

What are your suspension settings?? Factory standards or have you guys messed with it and discovered a perfect setting for track use and everyday commuting??

 

By the way I weigh 64.5 kg stark naked. Probably with full riding gear I should be hitting 70kg. And my Body Mass Index is 22.5. No one is ever overweight when it comes to BMI, underheight maybe but never overweight. Heheh.

 

Appreciate you guys put down your weight and the kind of settings you have done for the front and rear ends of your machine. We all might learn something when we have enough data to do some trending and analysis.

[jerryGSR]

Originally posted by Raptor@Mar 1 2005, 10:39 PM

Yeah, agree with you there Tashi.

I think our suspension settings by the factory is not meant for lean mean hungry mean machines like me.

 

I think it is meant for heavier Caucasians. I softened the rebound and damping on the front and rear by 1/2 turn but I think it is not enough. Looks I gotta soften the preload on the front forks and rear suspension too.

 

Hey what about you guys, my fellow CBR1000RR brothers??

What are your suspension settings?? Factory standards or have you guys messed with it and discovered a perfect setting for track use and everyday commuting??

 

By the way I weigh 64.5 kg stark naked. Probably with full riding gear I should be hitting 70kg. And my Body Mass Index is 22.5. No one is ever overweight when it comes to BMI, underheight maybe but never overweight. Heheh.

 

Appreciate you guys put down your weight and the kind of settings you have done for the front and rear ends of your machine. We all might learn something when we have enough data to do some trending and analysis.

errr..... i dun noe my settings..... cos mine done motoworld..... I told the mechanic tat i wanted it to be for track settings.....

[Fatgrunt]

my bmi used to be 23, but i think i'm hitting the 26,26 mark... anyway, still cannot decide between the cbr1k and the cbr6. -___-

[Ken]

My weight is 70kg.

The tuner had helped me set a so call best settings, "30 front 30 rear".

This tuner, i not very farmiliar with him, but he seems to be very good with some quite good history.

Maybe Edwin have more info about him? hehehe.

I dun noe anything about other settings, but i do noe that he had up 2 clicks for my preload.

 

I think preload is the main thing that we need to look at.

The rebound, dampling is more of how u wan the bike to react like in a corner and reacts under braking bah.

[Tashi]

Originally posted by Ken@Mar 2 2005, 12:05 AM

My weight is 70kg.

The tuner had helped me set a so call best settings, "30 front 30 rear".

This tuner, i not very farmiliar with him, but he seems to be very good with some quite good history.

Maybe Edwin have more info about him? hehehe.

I dun noe anything about other settings, but i do noe that he had up 2 clicks for my preload.

 

I think preload is the main thing that we need to look at.

The rebound, dampling is more of how u wan the bike to react like in a corner and reacts under braking bah.

Me 69kg, but eat too much these days. so hovering around 71.

 

Preload front and back? Mine is stock settings. Maybe I should do the same.

[Tashi]

Originally posted by Raptor@Mar 1 2005, 10:39 PM

Yeah, agree with you there Tashi.

I think our suspension settings by the factory is not meant for lean mean hungry mean machines like me.

 

I think it is meant for heavier Caucasians. I softened the rebound and damping on the front and rear by 1/2 turn but I think it is not enough. Looks I gotta soften the preload on the front forks and rear suspension too.

 

Hey what about you guys, my fellow CBR1000RR brothers??

What are your suspension settings?? Factory standards or have you guys messed with it and discovered a perfect setting for track use and everyday commuting??

 

By the way I weigh 64.5 kg stark naked. Probably with full riding gear I should be hitting 70kg. And my Body Mass Index is 22.5. No one is ever overweight when it comes to BMI, underheight maybe but never overweight. Heheh.

 

Appreciate you guys put down your weight and the kind of settings you have done for the front and rear ends of your machine. We all might learn something when we have enough data to do some trending and analysis.

You damn light. How to get BMI by the way?

 

Sooner or later, we will start talking about how to lose weight.

[Tashi]

Originally posted by Fatgrunt@Mar 1 2005, 11:56 PM

my bmi used to be 23, but i think i'm hitting the 26,26 mark... anyway, still cannot decide between the cbr1k and the cbr6. -___-

What's the price difference?

 

600 is is actually fine. But somehow without a full litre, you'll find something missing in life.

[Tashi]

Originally posted by chilly@Mar 1 2005, 09:34 PM

I'll have to skip..... many problems awaits me in March

 

Just hope my problems ends in March & don't drag to the following month.

 

Tashi , u should know !

May the force be with you Abang Chilly.

 

If you need help, I'll be glad to lend you a blade!

[_3n3mY_]

oops .. apologies haha .. i was actually referring to the tyre pressure seems too "high" ... anyway the miscomm leads to a much useful topic ..

 

so all using the recommended tyre pressure for your BT014?

 

for me, still stock .. my weight bout 66kg .. thinking of softening the rear too .. was still figuring a good combination ..

[3ddy]

Originally posted by chilly@Mar 1 2005, 09:16 PM

lEddyl , gian yoshi pipe ahh..... ?

now considering akra. if can get better price from other source.

 

u leh?

[3ddy]

i'm 64kg, so far only play with the preload. find my fork hard.

 

any pros good at this anot? rider sag we can't do ourself rite?

[jerryGSR]

Originally posted by lEddyl@Mar 2 2005, 06:54 PM

now considering akra. if can get better price from other source.

 

u leh?

sporting got akra slip on.... abt the same price oso.....

[chilly]

Originally posted by Tashi@Mar 2 2005, 07:54 AM

May the force be with you Abang Chilly.

 

If you need help, I'll be glad to lend you a blade!

Tks bro

[jerryGSR]

Originally posted by Tashi@Mar 2 2005, 07:54 AM

May the force be with you Abang Chilly.

 

If you need help, I'll be glad to lend you a blade!

make it two....

[chilly]

Originally posted by lEddyl@Mar 2 2005, 06:54 PM

now considering akra. if can get better price from other source.

 

u leh?

Akra street legal ?

Why u said ARROW ugly ahh ?

Me no money lah.Anyway, how much ARROW street legal end can ?

I think the price for ARROW increased since I last asked.

[chilly]

Originally posted by Jerry7007@Mar 2 2005, 08:40 PM

make it two....

Wahh....I now got 2 blades to slice & chop !

[Raptor]

Originally posted by chilly@Mar 2 2005, 08:44 PM

Wahh....I now got 2 blades to slice & chop !

Make it three then.

[chilly]

Originally posted by Raptor@Mar 2 2005, 08:50 PM

Make it three then.

Wah.. surely die man !

If u put 1 cow slice & chop with 3 blades sure will die & I'm talking about human life here

[Raptor]

Originally posted by lEddyl@Mar 2 2005, 07:03 PM

i'm 64kg, so far only play with the preload. find my fork hard.

 

any pros good at this anot? rider sag we can't do ourself rite?

OK, lets see what I can divulge about what I know about shock struts and their functions. Using aircraft shock struts as a base of comparison.

 

Shock struts (front forks or rear shocks in bikes and similarly in cars) use the mechanical coiled spring to absorb initial impact against a bump on the road.

 

During the initial absorption of impact when the strut is compressed, the preload spring is compressed, oil is allowed to flow from the lower chamber, where it normally resides, to the upper chamber of the strut, the flow speed which is governed by an adjustable orifice controlled by your Compression Damping adjuster, located on the lower portion of the strut. By turning the adjuster to hard...you are actually controlling the SPEED of the dive. By turning the Spring Preload adjuster to hard... you are controlling the AMOUNT of dive, which is basically governed by your weight and style of riding.

 

After compression,ie past the bump on the road, the preload of the spring in the strut (controlled by your Spring Preload adjuster) will want to extend the strut immediately. The oil in the strut now has to flow from the upper chamber to the lower chamber through an orifice controlled by a tapered metering pin. If you allow total free flow without a metering pin... the strut will actually 'bounce' up and down like a ball, which has resulted in many bikes wobbling like hell after hitting a bump in a high speed corner (tank slapper??). Particularly rampant on bikes with 2 shock absorbers in the rear in the days of old. Thats why nowadays they go for single rear shock to preclude this possibility of one shock going bad and affecting the bike handling.

 

When you turn the Rebound Damping adjuster to hard... you are driving the metering pin into the fixed orifice which the oil flows through to return to the lower chamber, ie you make the passage smaller. The smaller the orifice, the slower the strut will extend after a sudden compression.

 

The viscosity of the oil used either in the forks or rear shocks, can determine the stiffness of the action of the strut. Thicker oil flows slower. That is why most fork oil is of very thin SAE grades, 10 to 20 ratings. Most rear shocks are gas charged to assist in the preload so that they do not have to use bigger and heavier external springs.

 

Whether you call them front forks or rear shock absorbers... they are the same to me. On aircraft we call them shock struts. Principle of design and operation is the same, except they are much bigger on the aircraft.

 

Some cars have the preload spring mounted separately from the damper strut

assembly. Some have it together just like our bikes. The front forks have the preload spring inside the the strut.

 

This much I know, a soft rear end will allow you to put alot of power onto the rear wheel without inducing a wheel spin as the bike will sit down under acceleration, but you can end up wheelieing the bike. Too hard on the rear end... you will wheelspin upon power application.

 

Too soft on the front, the bike will dive too much but there is a lesser chance of you losing the front in a hard corner... since most of the force is absorbed and not transmitted to the front tyre, ie you can brake harder or accelerate harder out of a corner without the front giving way. Needless to say.. hard front suspension seem to be a no no.

 

So after having said all this... the adjustment now depends on your riding style..ie you the hard accelerator and late braker type, or your BMI very low or high, or the type of track, full of twisties or long sweepers... aiyah basically too many variables involved until I also blur liao. Bottom line is.... different tracks require different settings.

 

Hmmmm did I make sense or caused even more confusion??

[Tashi]

How to calculate BMI? I'm curious.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Tashi@Mar 2 2005, 09:55 PM

How to calculate BMI? I'm curious.

Weight in kilos divided by the square of your height in metres.

[ideal1970]

Originally posted by Tashi@Mar 2 2005, 09:55 PM

How to calculate BMI? I'm curious.

Check this BMI calculator....

 

http://www.hpb.gov.sg/hpb/default.asp?pg_id=997