[Group] Singapore BAJAJ Team (SBT)

[GoofRider]

 

 

if you change both, what's the difference between having same ratio but different teeths? cos i thought just change one will have significant difference, and changing both can create something similar like adding 1.5 teeth to just the back wheel which is physically impossible. so, no need waste money to be super accurate on it.

 

 

As I said earlier, changin the rear is good enough..less hassle.

The reason I change mind to 16teeth cos I can’t find a 15teeth sprocket from other model

Than can fit to our bike. My main reason is to get cheaper spare parts from JB rather

Than just depend on parts from UM.. so the only sprocket I know that fit to my bike

Is RXZ sprocket and they only comes with 16 teeth.. maybe other model made have 15teeth but I

Don’t know nor did I search further.. so in future I can just get the rear sprocket from UM, cash and carry

And bring to JB and get the rxz sprocket and tell them to install for me. Anyway I bet u know installation

Is free , if u buy the item from them(JB shops).. so for this case, u save a couple of bucks.

 

I dun know how much UM sell the sprocket. Plus UM will charge for labour cost.

 

Alternative way u can just go to UM and get a reduce sprocket for your rear only.. so when come

To changing of sprockets, u just go to UM and get one set…both front and rear.

 

As for gear ratio..

 

For example (I dun really know the stock teeth for rear, jus an example its 40)

 

Biker one… use stock 15 front and reduce the rear to 34…

 

Biker two…. Increase front to 16 front and reduce a bit to 38 rear…

 

Both ratio for both bikes is about the same.. but different from stock.

But when changing of sprockets, its adviceable to change the sprocket together as a set..

Cos if u just change one, the worn off period is different and it might ‘damage’ the chain lifespan(correct me if I’m wrong)

 

I’m hoping to change my rear sprocket to lesser teeth.. I forgot which bike model sprocket can

Be use for UG2…. Bruder Roady told me before but me forgot.. heee..

[spaiduhz]

i think it last btw 500km-800km.. me also nto sure the exact distance as some workshop recommend different mileage for the next service..

 

if u have the money why not.. .. but its redudent u put a good expensive oil and u have to change thein a few days or a week time...

and further more if i'm not wrong mineral oil is more thinner, meaning good for engine running it..

 

other comment on this..

 

erm, no. mineral oil the thickest of the three types of engine oil.

 

mineral oil tends to take longer to warm up to operating temperature than synthetic oil.

 

synthetic in a sense protects the engine better that it gets to operating temperature faster. Being thinner, it also flows more readily when cold. however, other than that its basically the same.

 

In terms of cleaning the engine, its more prudent to take a look at the rating of the oil. whether it meets certain standards, like API-JASO, API-SG, SAE or whatnot.

 

i suppose there is no harm in using full synthetic on the bajaj. being thinner, it would lead to smoother acceleration and better fuel consumption. but is it really worth it paying more than twice the amount by using SAE 0W30 grade full synthetic when a semi synthetic API-JASO 20W50 grade works well on the bike?

 

on another note. the bajaj comes out the factory being able to run on RON87 grade petrol just fine. Regular malaysian petrol is RON91 grade, and their premium is RON97. God knows about the ultra premium, Shell V-Power.

 

singapore taxes its petrol at 40c per liter. and 45c per liter for premium petrol. dont give the singapore goverment anymore money than necessary!

[GoofRider]

erm, no. mineral oil the thickest of the three types of engine oil.

 

mineral oil tends to take longer to warm up to operating temperature than synthetic oil.

 

synthetic in a sense protects the engine better that it gets to operating temperature faster. Being thinner, it also flows more readily when cold. however, other than that its basically the same.

 

In terms of cleaning the engine, its more prudent to take a look at the rating of the oil. whether it meets certain standards, like API-JASO, API-SG, SAE or whatnot.

 

i suppose there is no harm in using full synthetic on the bajaj. being thinner, it would lead to smoother acceleration and better fuel consumption. but is it really worth it paying more than twice the amount by using SAE 0W30 grade full synthetic when a semi synthetic API-JASO 20W50 grade works well on the bike?

 

on another note. the bajaj comes out the factory being able to run on RON87 grade petrol just fine. Regular malaysian petrol is RON91 grade, and their premium is RON97. God knows about the ultra premium, Shell V-Power.

 

singapore taxes its petrol at 40c per liter. and 45c per liter for premium petrol. dont give the singapore goverment anymore money than necessary!

 

:thumb: :thumb:

[SC Gaban]

API-American Petrolium Industry.

 

aaanywayzzz... would fully syntetic oil be better for very long distances? of coz it would right?? just wondering...

[marcsuper4]

change tyres to battlax la. super grip. even if you buy in singapore, make sure check the manufacturing date. if you get an old one, it won't last that long.

 

how to see the manufacturing date and get wat sizes for out tyres ?? the sizes is it same as stock ??

 

 

well, that makes 4 of us. proradar, wavy, marcsuper4 and me. but the big question is where to change it? which shop in jb does a good job?

 

 

i have saw bro prorader recommend ah gua lane but which shop would do a gd job ??

[GoofRider]

API-American Petrolium Industry.

 

aaanywayzzz... would fully syntetic oil be better for very long distances? of coz it would right?? just wondering...

 

yup!! recommended oil change every 2500km-3000km.. if u hardly ride recommended 2000km-2500km..

[GoofRider]

i have saw bro prorader recommend ah gua lane but which shop would do a gd job ??

 

their customer service better than singaporean shop.. hehe.. from my experience lah...

[marcsuper4]

their customer service better than singaporean shop.. hehe.. from my experience lah...

 

bro.. which shop u frequent go and u said u change tyres in jb ?? u change to which tyres and also at ah gua lane ???

[GoofRider]

bro.. which shop u frequent go ??

 

hhehe dun know the name.. but the Bajaj pioneer rider would know cos i bring them there... the only one surviving that is pioneer is Bruder Roady and Bruder Su_vespa... most of Bajaj rider go there.. hehe..

 

but i didn't buy my tyre there.. i buy a few shop away... anyway along that stretch have lotsa bike shop.. go survey first before buy.. dun forget to bargain hor.

[Mrace]

think she change fully syn wan.

1st time hear ppl to fast 1st or 2nd service change fully syn liao..

 

guess it should be 10~15w30~40 EO.. u may feel the bike vibrate more..

 

they ask me wan change which type, normal wan or good wan. Then i said of cuz good wan la.. i wont feed my piggy lousy stuff..

 

he told me its Mobil wan, u mean after tat EO change will have more vibrate?

 

Vibrate i dun feel much.. but after the EO change, i feel my piggy so loud!

y cant use fully syn during 1st or 2nd svc?

[Mrace]

i search the web.. but.. cannot find.. how can i find my original sprocket size? Though most of u mentioned to change both the front n rear sprocket is best..

 

But, from what i see, most of u only change rear sprocket to 37? Gives u better speed? Or lesser vibration ?

[proradar1]

i search the web.. but.. cannot find.. how can i find my original sprocket size? Though most of u mentioned to change both the front n rear sprocket is best..

 

But, from what i see, most of u only change rear sprocket to 37? Gives u better speed? Or lesser vibration ?

 

lesser teeth on the rear sprocket ceteris paribus, u get higher top spd in expense of acceleration ( this has been said abt 239459 times by 183293 different people)

 

hence, at the same speed u are actually travelling at lower rpm...say stock u travel 90kmh 8k rpm change le become 100kmh 8k rpm...

 

so when u travel at the same spd after changing rear sprocket u r travelling at lower rpm hence lesser vibration ( pls correct me if im wrong)

 

 

ps. i haben change and i wanna change!

[pokvin]

for the nth time stock 180 rear sprocket is 43 teeth.

 

i want to come along to get a bellypan! and maybe change tires. so 5 people to jb (: any knowledgable elders want to come along?

[lindavw]

when u all planning to go jb?

[proradar1]

im free like almost everyday every minute so see when the rest can make it...

 

 

 

 

Jln Tun Abdul Razak Susur 4 =)

[Roadrunner71]

I’m hoping to change my rear sprocket to lesser teeth.. I forgot which bike model sprocket can be use for UG2…. Bruder Roady told me before but me forgot

For UG2 with engine kill switch and later models, can use Wave rear sprocket and RXZ front sprocket. But sori bro, for ur UG2 without engine kill switch, u still gotta use stock rear sprocket cos of the 6 mounting holes.

i search the web.. but.. cannot find.. how can i find my original sprocket size? Though most of u mentioned to change both the front n rear sprocket is best

Size of sprocket is engraved on sprocket itself. When changing sprocket, be advised to not only change both rear & front as a set, but also the chain as well. These pieces are designed to mate and wear together and you drastically cut down on the life of your parts if you choose not to replace them as a unit. The use of a new sprocket with a worn chain can quickly ruin the sprocket... similarly, use of a worn sprocket with a new chain will quickly ruin the chain.

But, from what i see, most of u only change rear sprocket to 37? Gives u better speed? Or lesser vibration ?

The primary reason for reducing the gear ratio is to:

- reduce RPM for any given speed

- or another way to look at it, increase speed at any given RPM

- but pick-up speed will be adversely affected.

 

If you happen to normally cruise at the same RPM that the bike vibrates the most, then reducing the gear ratio will get you out of that zone of vibration (since a lower RPM is required for the same cruising speed).

 

Precaution: Large -ve % change (-8% or more) from stock can produce undesirable results. Changes under 3% are not likely to be noticed by the rider.

 

To calculate % change in gear ratio:

(( (NewRear/NewFront) / (OldRear/OldFront) ) - 1) * 100 = % change.

 

bro.. which shop u frequent go and u said u change tyres in jb ?? u change to which tyres and also at ah gua lane ???

hhehe dun know the name.. but the Bajaj pioneer rider would know cos i bring them there... the only one surviving that is pioneer is Bruder Roady and Bruder Su_vespa... most of Bajaj rider go there.. hehe..

 

but i didn't buy my tyre there.. i buy a few shop away... anyway along that stretch have lotsa bike shop.. go survey first before buy.. dun forget to bargain hor.

He usually goes to SH Motors for servicing. He changed his tyres to Dunlop TT900 (no Battlax in JB) from dunno which shop. Not as gd as Battlax (Thai-made vs Jpn-made) but still ok lah. Exactly same thread pattern and cheaper of course.

 

For changing sprockets + chain, can try Hup Heng or the shop next-door for RM80.

[Roadrunner71]

i want to come along to get a bellypan! and maybe change tires. so 5 people to jb (: any knowledgable elders want to come along?

Sori very bz with work now. Only free in Dec

when u all planning to go jb?

U lead them lah, old bird.

[breadman]

how about saturday? im not working this saturday. but cannot be too late as i have to go work about 6am on sunday morning -_-

 

firefox, pokvin, proradar and marcsuper4 u guys free?

[pokvin]

Precaution: Large -ve % change (-8% or more) from stock can produce undesirable results. Changes under 3% are not likely to be noticed by the rider.

 

To calculate % change in gear ratio:

(( (NewRear/NewFront) / (OldRear/OldFront) ) - 1) * 100 = % change.

 

my percentage change is -13.15% !!

[proradar1]

U lead them lah, old bird.

any bird willing to lead will do

how about saturday? im not working this saturday. but cannot be too late as i have to go work about 6am on sunday morning -_-

 

firefox, pokvin, proradar and marcsuper4 u guys free?

free

my percentage change is -13.15% !!

 

good luck:P

=X

[proradar1]

IMHO, .there is a total of 3 main + 2 sub version for Bajaj DTS-i,

 

UG1 (First Batch, year 2005) - come with spoke rim and chrome exhaust, Analog meter, Engine in silver colour. (RARE to see on the road)

 

UG2 ( Year 2006) - Come with sport rim, black exhaust, no engine kill switch, engine in black colour. Analog meter. Sprocket using 6 holes.

 

UG2.1 (2006) Same as UG2 except that it came with engine kill switch. sprocket using 4 holes.

 

UG3 (2007) Digital meter, Auto signal light off, Led tail light, Cystal casing for the signal light. Design of the bike looks sharper.

 

UG3.1 (2008) Improved version of UG 3. Less problematic. How to know the difference... look at the carb. New model, there is a serial number engrave there. Plus the Chrome cover (front) for the exhaust is different.

 

UG3.2 (2008) Improved version of above. matt silver exhaust heat shield, fibre carbon Digtal meter look. Sprocket size is 39

 

 

All above information is based on my finding and interaction with other pulsarian. It might not be 100% but close.

 

 

M|rac|e : urs could be 39... since ur ug3 is like the newest liao FBD...

[Ah_Pet]

they ask me wan change which type, normal wan or good wan. Then i said of cuz good wan la.. i wont feed my piggy lousy stuff..

 

he told me its Mobil wan, u mean after tat EO change will have more vibrate?

 

Vibrate i dun feel much.. but after the EO change, i feel my piggy so loud!

y cant use fully syn during 1st or 2nd svc?

 

actually normal EO is already very good for own bikes.

maybe now u wil feel that ur piggy pickup abit fast than normal. but maybe after 500 to 1000km. u will start feel it vibrate more than the previous EO bcoz ur now EO too thin already.

 

that wat i try and feel it myself wan.. maybe after ~500km u update again.

[pokvin]

how about saturday? im not working this saturday. but cannot be too late as i have to go work about 6am on sunday morning -_-

 

firefox, pokvin, proradar and marcsuper4 u guys free?

 

working at 4 so gotta come back before that S:

[Roadrunner71]

my percentage change is -13.15% !!

As ur pick-up speed is adversely affected, u may be tempted to try to compensate for sluggish acceleration by throttling more during acceleration. So u may end up with higher FC. So take it easy when moving off.

working at 4 so gotta come back before that S:

Take note that AGL shops open from 3pm - 3am.

[GoofRider]

For UG2 with engine kill switch and later models, can use Wave rear sprocket and RXZ front sprocket. But sori bro, for ur UG2 without engine kill switch, u still gotta use stock rear sprocket cos of the 6 mounting holes.

 

Size of sprocket is engraved on sprocket itself. When changing sprocket, be advised to not only change both rear & front as a set, but also the chain as well. These pieces are designed to mate and wear together and you drastically cut down on the life of your parts if you choose not to replace them as a unit. The use of a new sprocket with a worn chain can quickly ruin the sprocket... similarly, use of a worn sprocket with a new chain will quickly ruin the chain.

 

The primary reason for reducing the gear ratio is to:

- reduce RPM for any given speed

- or another way to look at it, increase speed at any given RPM

- but pick-up speed will be adversely affected.

 

If you happen to normally cruise at the same RPM that the bike vibrates the most, then reducing the gear ratio will get you out of that zone of vibration (since a lower RPM is required for the same cruising speed).

 

Precaution: Large -ve % change (-8% or more) from stock can produce undesirable results. Changes under 3% are not likely to be noticed by the rider.

 

To calculate % change in gear ratio:

(( (NewRear/NewFront) / (OldRear/OldFront) ) - 1) * 100 = % change.

 

 

 

He usually goes to SH Motors for servicing. He changed his tyres to Dunlop TT900 (no Battlax in JB) from dunno which shop. Not as gd as Battlax (Thai-made vs Jpn-made) but still ok lah. Exactly same thread pattern and cheaper of course.

 

For changing sprockets + chain, can try Hup Heng or the shop next-door for RM80.

 

 

:thumb: no other person explain very clearly and easy to understand than Bruder Roady. me very bad in explaining one.. cos me Ah Beng mah.