SBF SkipperNet Cafe 2008

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 4 2006, 09:18 PM

Looks exactly like the one in the pic except the fork tube is chrome instead of anodised red and the top holding nut is the same anodised blue. Initially I thought it was some cheapo aftermarket stuffs until I saw the same fork on Malossi website.

 

The fork assembly accroding to WM is from Gilera runner, because he wanted to show me how the Gilera runner fork assembly look like. As he is trying to convince me Gilera runner fork can installed on Typhoon.

 

Do you happen to know any Gilera runner who upgraded their fork assembly and have a spare one lying ard?? I just need one to replace the leaking one on mine because WM says not servicable.

 

I still have some doubts because the haynes manual states the procedure of changing the oil seal on typhoon and Zip.

 

Now I am pending bike lab or teck thye to see if they are able to rebuilt the fork before going to the agent at genting lane.

don't any how take advice from anyone .

if u r sceptical abt any given advice from a mech. better go do some research before u decide.

go and check the malossi fork part number for typhoon and runner to see if they r the same.

if they r not. then there must be some diff ( spring load, fork length , etc).

i believe that shocks r one of the most important parts when it come to handling and stablity

we do have alot of mech who claim they r very pro and knowledgable with auto parts .

[rae07]

maybe you should try see if they sell the fork seal first. rebuilding should be pretty straighforward.

[S750WP]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 4 2006, 11:25 PM

don't any how take advice from anyone .

if u r sceptical abt any given advice from a mech. better go do some research before u decide.

go and check the malossi fork part number for typhoon and runner to see if they r the same.

if they r not. then there must be some diff ( spring load, fork length , etc).

i believe that shocks r one of the most important parts when it come to handling and stablity

we do have alot of mech who claim they r very pro and knowledgable with auto parts .

The malossi website states F32S is for runner and typhoon, so what WM says is true, Typhoon can use Runner's fork assembly.

 

I'm skeptical abt the typhoon fork is not serviceable because the haynes manual states the procedure to change the oil seal, but it also states the typhoon fork construction may vary from year to year and its best to consult the agent. However it never states how much oil and viscocity of fork oil to use.

 

That's why I am seeking 2nd opinion from BikeLab and Teck Thye, the suspension guru in sg, and piaggio agent to confirm the fork is really not servicable before I take the plunge to use runner's fork assembly (which I assume its serviceable).

[SK I]

 

Good night Skippernet....hope more Skipper riders can come out for gatherings in the future!

[S750WP]

Originally posted by rae07@Apr 5 2006, 12:12 AM

maybe you should try see if they sell the fork seal first. rebuilding should be pretty straighforward.

Problem is alot of the Piaggio dealer don;t carry Typhoon 125 spares.

 

So far I have tried Tong Aik (who help me to get the air filter) and another shop at serangoon (didn;t take note of the name but they sell piaggio spares) afew shop before GHC. Have also email the Piaggio agent at genting lane, who told me they no longer keep stock of Typhoon spares. The shop at serangoon told me to try my luck at automachinary, which I'm gona do this weekend.

 

I believe the oil seal maybe common with other jap bikes, because the typhoon shock is by Showa. But then which shop is willing to take the risk, wasting time and effort to bring down the whole fork assembly, dismantle and check the oil seal. if 'suay' couldn't find the part then 'lan lan' have to assemble back, somemore can't charge a single cent because problem not fixed.

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 5 2006, 12:26 AM

The malossi website states F32S is for runner and typhoon, so what WM says is true, Typhoon can use Runner's fork assembly.

 

I'm skeptical abt the typhoon fork is not serviceable because the haynes manual states the procedure to change the oil seal, but it also states the typhoon fork construction may vary from year to year and its best to consult the agent. However it never states how much oil and viscocity of fork oil to use.

 

That's why I am seeking 2nd opinion from BikeLab and Teck Thye, the suspension guru in sg, and piaggio agent to confirm the fork is really not servicable before I take the plunge to use runner's fork assembly (which I assume its serviceable).

maybe i did not state clearly what u r supposed to look for .....

i said go and check the PART NUMBER,

not the model!!!!!

[rae07]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 5 2006, 12:26 AM

I'm skeptical abt the typhoon fork is not serviceable because the haynes manual states the procedure to change the oil seal, but it also states the typhoon fork construction may vary from year to year and its best to consult the agent. However it never states how much oil and viscocity of fork oil to use.

most forks in general can be serviced. it's the fork seal tt's a b*tch. do not need to worry much abt springs and all unless it's bent or heavily rusted. if those goes out..can alway try fit in other bike's, not much issue with tt.

 

as for viscosity and volume, it varies from rider to rider. standard viscosity's 15-20w. do know of ppl using 5-0w. and volume, again, depends on the hardness you wanna. try with low volume first then slowly top it up. it's always easier to top up than to drain.

 

most important thing to note is to be precise with the volume topped up. this is especially dangerous when conering when one fork retracts faster than the other. and of course..drain it well.

[S750WP]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 5 2006, 12:09 PM

maybe i did not state clearly what u r supposed to look for .....

i said go and check the PART NUMBER,

not the model!!!!!

Only found the code number FORK KIT F32S GILERA/PIAGGIO

code = 46 9550

[S750WP]

Went to a shop think the name is ES, located at 74 desker road. Ask the boss if he sell fork oil seal for tyhoon. Boss told me the fork cannot be repaired and suggest to change to malossi if I want better handling and if I have the intention to keep the bike. Else I will have to live with it. He quote me $900+ for the malossi fork and also showed me a busted typhoon fork.

 

I have no intention to keep the bike forever, but I like the better handling part. Anyway all I need is a transport, not for race so I went on to look for the oil seal.

 

Next I went to Automachinary to look for the fork oil seal, the old uncle serve me check through the typhoon parts manual and even the gilera part manual, told me no longer have stock. I asked the uncle to order the parts for me but he refused because he says not much typhoon ard. He ask me to go to piaggio agent to order the parts myself.

 

Going to the piaggio agent this weekend, wished me luck. I think I'm going to order 5 sets for spare.

[spy622]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 5 2006, 05:58 PM

Went to a shop think the name is ES, located at 74 desker road. Ask the boss if he sell fork oil seal for tyhoon. Boss told me the fork cannot be repaired and suggest to change to malossi if I want better handling and if I have the intention to keep the bike. Else I will have to live with it. He quote me $900+ for the malossi fork and also showed me a busted typhoon fork.

 

I have no intention to keep the bike forever, but I like the better handling part. Anyway all I need is a transport, not for race so I went on to look for the oil seal.

 

Next I went to Automachinary to look for the fork oil seal, the old uncle serve me check through the typhoon parts manual and even the gilera part manual, told me no longer have stock. I asked the uncle to order the parts for me but he refused because he says not much typhoon ard. He ask me to go to piaggio agent to order the parts myself.

 

Going to the piaggio agent this weekend, wished me luck. I think I'm going to order 5 sets for spare.

so did u give up on the F32S fork??

anyway to wat I hav known is a typhoon can NEVER fit a runner's fork and other than Malossi's expensive F32S which maybe as expensive as ur bike is worth ther r other aftmkt shocks for the typhoon...as I hav said in the ang mo land ther r loads of parts for the typhoon

 

Attached is some aftmkt typhoon fork...cost ard 240euro so aft shipping it will cost half ur bike lah..n being conversional it may be rebulidable

[spy622]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 5 2006, 03:16 PM

Only found the code number FORK KIT F32S GILERA/PIAGGIO

code = 46 9550

I surf the malossi website too... and this is wat I find

 

FORK KIT F32S GILERA/PIAGGIO

code = 46 9550

 

LIST OF THE MODELS/BRANDS

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA/PIAGGIO

 

GILERA

GILERA STORM 50 2t

GILERA TYPHOON 50 2t

GILERA TYPHOON 125 2t

GILERA TYPHOON X 50 2t

GILERA TYPHOON X 125 2t

 

PIAGGIO

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t EXTREME

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC EXTREME

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC MC2

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC MC2 1998 -->

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC MC3 DD

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t MC3 DT

PIAGGIO NTT 50 2t LC

 

SPARE PART LIST

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA/PIAGGIO

CODE NUMBER / DESCRIPTION

18 9525 PINCER SUPPORT KIT for ORIGINAL BRAKE fo

18 9555 MUDGARD SUPPORT KIT for FORK F32S

19 9899 WHELL/PIVOT KIT for FORK F32S

21 9547B RUBBER CLAMPS KIT Ø 40x19 for F32S

62 8986 FRONT HYDR.BRAKE PINC+pist. Ø 30

 

 

FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER

code = 46 9552

 

LIST OF THE MODELS/BRANDS

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER

GILERA

GILERA RUNNER 50 2t LC GILERA RUNNER 50 2t LC PureJet

GILERA RUNNER 50 2t LC SP

 

SPARE PART LIST

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER

CODE NUMBER / DESCRIPTION

18 9525 PINCER SUPPORT KIT for ORIGINAL BRAKE fo

18 9555 MUDGARD SUPPORT KIT for FORK F32S

19 9900B WHELL/PIVOT KIT for FORK F32S

21 9547B RUBBER CLAMPS KIT Ø 40x19 for F32S

 

 

FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER 180

code = 46 9627

 

LIST OF THE MODELS/BRANDS

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER 180

GILERA

GILERA RUNNER 125 2t LC FX GILERA RUNNER 125 4t LC VX

GILERA RUNNER 180 2t LC FXR GILERA RUNNER 180 4t LC VXR

GILERA RUNNER 200 4t LC VXR

 

SPARE PART LIST

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER 180

CODE NUMBER / DESCRIPTION

18 9555 MUDGARD SUPPORT KIT for FORK F32S

18 9800B PINCER SUPPORT KIT for ORIGINAL BRAKE fo

19 9900B WHELL/PIVOT KIT for FORK F32S

21 9547B RUBBER CLAMPS KIT Ø 40x19 for F32S

6212605 WHOOP DISC brake disc for F32S RUNNER 12

 

 

So which 1 do u need

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by spy622@Apr 5 2006, 09:30 PM

I surf the malossi website too... and this is wat I find

 

FORK KIT F32S GILERA/PIAGGIO

code = 46 9550

 

LIST OF THE MODELS/BRANDS

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA/PIAGGIO

 

GILERA

GILERA STORM 50 2t

GILERA TYPHOON 50 2t

GILERA TYPHOON 125 2t

GILERA TYPHOON X 50 2t

GILERA TYPHOON X 125 2t

 

PIAGGIO

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t EXTREME

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC EXTREME

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC MC2

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC MC2 1998 -->

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t LC MC3 DD

PIAGGIO NRG 50 2t MC3 DT

PIAGGIO NTT 50 2t LC

 

SPARE PART LIST

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA/PIAGGIO

CODE NUMBER / DESCRIPTION

18 9525 PINCER SUPPORT KIT for ORIGINAL BRAKE fo

18 9555 MUDGARD SUPPORT KIT for FORK F32S

19 9899 WHELL/PIVOT KIT for FORK F32S

21 9547B RUBBER CLAMPS KIT Ø 40x19 for F32S

62 8986 FRONT HYDR.BRAKE PINC+pist. Ø 30

 

 

FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER

code = 46 9552

 

LIST OF THE MODELS/BRANDS

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER

GILERA

GILERA RUNNER 50 2t LC GILERA RUNNER 50 2t LC PureJet

GILERA RUNNER 50 2t LC SP

 

SPARE PART LIST

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER

CODE NUMBER / DESCRIPTION

18 9525 PINCER SUPPORT KIT for ORIGINAL BRAKE fo

18 9555 MUDGARD SUPPORT KIT for FORK F32S

19 9900B WHELL/PIVOT KIT for FORK F32S

21 9547B RUBBER CLAMPS KIT Ø 40x19 for F32S

 

 

FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER 180

code = 46 9627

 

LIST OF THE MODELS/BRANDS

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER 180

GILERA

GILERA RUNNER 125 2t LC FX GILERA RUNNER 125 4t LC VX

GILERA RUNNER 180 2t LC FXR GILERA RUNNER 180 4t LC VXR

GILERA RUNNER 200 4t LC VXR

 

SPARE PART LIST

> FORK KIT F32S GILERA RUNNER 180

CODE NUMBER / DESCRIPTION

18 9555 MUDGARD SUPPORT KIT for FORK F32S

18 9800B PINCER SUPPORT KIT for ORIGINAL BRAKE fo

19 9900B WHELL/PIVOT KIT for FORK F32S

21 9547B RUBBER CLAMPS KIT Ø 40x19 for F32S

6212605 WHOOP DISC brake disc for F32S RUNNER 12

 

 

So which 1 do u need

thank you for clarerifing the parts number

[Mark C.]

Tis wat i call a tect talk.

 

 

lawrance >> sad to say, but really very hard to find nowsaday.

[S750WP]

Originally posted by spy622@Apr 5 2006, 09:16 PM

so did u give up on the F32S fork??

anyway to wat I hav known is a typhoon can NEVER fit a runner's fork and other than Malossi's expensive F32S which maybe as expensive as ur bike is worth ther r other aftmkt shocks for the typhoon...as I hav said in the ang mo land ther r loads of parts for the typhoon

 

Attached is some aftmkt typhoon fork...cost ard 240euro so aft shipping it will cost half ur bike lah..n being conversional it may be rebulidable

If I strike Toto, I will go for the malossi fork without 2nd thoughts.

 

Will ask Teck thye and bikelab to see if they able to repair the fork, so I no need to source the oil seal myself. If they say cannot repair, then I will go piaggio service center to ask them order the parts and repair the fork.

 

If still cannot then will email Piaggio Italy to see how I can get the spares to sg.

 

Personal experience, I ever emailed honda italy abt getting a part for my Honda NSR125(italy made), and they direct me to FJT eventually I got the part.

 

I like the fun part of hunting for spares, although its a luxury to have plenty of spares for your bike available in the market.

[S750WP]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 6 2006, 01:39 AM

thank you for clarerifing the parts number

I'm still confused so which is the correct part number if I were to order the malossi fork for Typhoon125?

[S750WP]

Originally posted by lawrance@Apr 5 2006, 10:21 PM

hi guys

 

does this mean that parts for typhoon 125

is very diff to get?

 

cheers

Not exactly, basically you can find almost any parts for typhoon on ebay Uk. But the shipping is damm ex also the exchange rate is not favourable to us.

 

Ebay

 

Most part on the typhoon125 is similar to skipper125 which is very common in sg but not in UK(strange). Botak says even the CDI and rectifier is the same.

[spy622]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 6 2006, 03:51 AM

If I strike Toto, I will go for the malossi fork without 2nd thoughts.

 

Will ask Teck thye and bikelab to see if they able to repair the fork, so I no need to source the oil seal myself. If they say cannot repair, then I will go piaggio service center to ask them order the parts and repair the fork.

 

If still cannot then will email Piaggio Italy to see how I can get the spares to sg.

 

Personal experience, I ever emailed honda italy abt getting a part for my Honda NSR125(italy made), and they direct me to FJT eventually I got the part.

 

I like the fun part of hunting for spares, although its a luxury to have plenty of spares for your bike available in the market.

pls keep us update on the rebuild news from Teck thye or bikelab...I nv check wif them wif regards to rebuilding the orginal inverted fork on my scoot so till now Im still wondering if the orginal inverted forks on the typhoons or runners r really rebuildable anot??

[spy622]

Originally posted by S750WP@Apr 6 2006, 04:04 AM

Not exactly, basically you can find almost any parts for typhoon on ebay Uk. But the shipping is damm ex also the exchange rate is not favourable to us.

 

Ebay

 

Most part on the typhoon125 is similar to skipper125 which is very common in sg but not in UK(strange). Botak says even the CDI and rectifier is the same.

If u are getting orginal spares for typhoon in Spore I dun really c a big problem becoz most of it r similar parts used on the skipper n if really outta stock then some wacky ideas to use parts from other bikes might be able to mod to fit..the case dat really sets u back is becoz u r now trying to look for the oil seal for the fork wher basically I tink no much ppl in Spore service dat thus itz kinda hard to find...if ur toking abt the stock pumps, bearings, relays, coils, gaskets, pistons, blocks or something like dat might still be able to find locally..

 

tio bo??...any skipper or typhoon riders out ther like to cfm this??

[Satgi]

Originally posted by spy622@Apr 6 2006, 04:18 AM

pls keep us update on the rebuild news from Teck thye or bikelab...I nv check wif them wif regards to rebuilding the orginal inverted fork on my scoot so till now Im still wondering if the orginal inverted forks on the typhoons or runners r really rebuildable anot??

for everyone riding runner and typhoon using inverted fork.

 

the inverted fork u using r servicable.

 

why bike shop says not servicable? cos its very troublesome to do it, how much u wanna pay for it? internal parts r difficult to find. not much bikeshop wanna bring in.

 

people always think its the oil seal leaking but there's no oil in the fork! one side of the fork is spring, the other side is a damper just like the rear damper without spring.

there'r only grease on the spring and other small internal parts. The oil u see outside the fork r grease. no point changing the oil seal which never helps on the performance of the fork.

 

wat u need to change is the damper in the fork! most of the damper in runner inverted fork r spoil but they just change oil seal. waste time and money.

 

hope everyone clear now!

[rae07]

Originally posted by Satgi@Apr 6 2006, 08:35 AM

fpeople always think its the oil seal leaking but there's no oil in the fork! one side of the fork is spring, the other side is a damper just like the rear damper without spring.

there'r only grease on the spring and other small internal parts. The oil u see outside the fork r grease. no point changing the oil seal which never helps on the performance of the fork.

so u r saying there's no fork oil in the fork? so to say it's almost similar to those bicycle fork uses only fork greese?

[Satgi]

Originally posted by rae07@Apr 6 2006, 11:21 AM

so u r saying there's no fork oil in the fork? so to say it's almost similar to those bicycle fork uses only fork greese?

The inverted fork for runner and typhoon do not have fork oil at all. The oil is only in the damper tat i mentioned. will try to post the picture after i strip one!

[WhiteOryx]

Originally posted by Satgi@Apr 6 2006, 12:11 PM

The inverted fork for runner and typhoon do not have fork oil at all. The oil is only in the damper tat i mentioned. will try to post the picture after i strip one!

I volunteer my fork if u wanna strip one hehe Cause my fork now quite greasy leh! But no payment needed ahz for the purpose of knowledge onlie!

[SK I]

Hey, since the typhoon not so common anymore, chances are there will be some in the scrapyards

Might get some luck finding a good conditioned one maybe

[spy622]

Originally posted by SK I@Apr 6 2006, 02:13 PM

Hey, since the typhoon not so common anymore, chances are there will be some in the scrapyards

Might get some luck finding a good conditioned one maybe

even harder...during the launch of typhoon in 95, it was almost gonna be the dwn period of skipper n then riders were goin ard saying skipper was not such a gd scoot aft all so alot of ppl gave up the idea of an auto scoot...large amount of typhoon remain unsold till ard 2-3yrs back the shops who had kept stock had to try to sell it off coz itz reaching 10yrs soon if not sold they die die hav to register it or scrap or export it out so then some of these remaining stock manage to come onto the roads again...

 

all the above is hearsay dunno real anot lah

but personally I feel dat the typhoon is kinda cute n sporty scoot to zip ard in

[S750WP]

Originally posted by spy622@Apr 6 2006, 04:18 AM

pls keep us update on the rebuild news from Teck thye or bikelab...I nv check wif them wif regards to rebuilding the orginal inverted fork on my scoot so till now Im still wondering if the orginal inverted forks on the typhoons or runners r really rebuildable anot??

I went piggio service centre today, they dont have a single spare for typhoon. I ask the uncle to order the fork oil seal, he refuse and ask me to try automachinary instead. The 2 shop very good at doing 'taichi' .

 

Next went bikelab and talk to the suspension guru, a very nice guy. He says never rebuilt a scoot fork before. I ask if can use fork oil seal from other bikes like wave, X1 he wasn't sure and also he worry if strip already no spare then it become more worse.

 

The next one to try is teck thye.