How many of you have NEVER fallen off or dropped your bike?

[lkm]

...and how long have you been riding?

 

I'm not asking this question to boost your ego (although if it does, that's a good thing), or to hurt those who have had a history. But really, I'm eliciting some response here to encourage the "learners" and "newbies" (that's ME!) that this IS actually possible! I've always heard that it's a "sooner or later" thing. "Sure fall one!" But really? Are there any experienced riders who've NEVER taken a fall before? Share with us your story and let that encourage the newer riders to aim for that statistic!

 

(Doesn't count if you've gotten your license 20 years ago and have stopped riding for 19 years...)

[kzone]

couple of weeks after getting a license/bike... bike fell at carpark cos forgot to put on side stand and just got off n walk... no falls since then. abt 9 yrs now.

[lkm]

couple of weeks after getting a license/bike... bike fell at carpark cos forgot to put on side stand and just got off n walk... no falls since then. abt 9 yrs now.

 

Hahah! Okay - we won't count that one.... 9 years! That's some inspiration!! =)

[jbdoggy]

Hi. Been riding just over a year.

 

1)Few mths bk i did fall down with the bike at my carpark. After warming up engine, i tried to mount the bike, my right leg didnt go up high enough so foot brushed hard against the rear fairing and over. I got into the seated posn, but the bike already started tilting over the other side due to the kick & down we both went. (no mainstand. only side stand)

 

2) 2-3 mths back i was riding on the pie towards the east. Traffic jam after toa payoh exit. Just after the serangoon road exit i decided to lane split cos sick & tired of following at abt 25-30kmh. Checkd my mirror & side all clear, but just as i turned my head back to the front the vehicles in front of me had stopped! I jammed my brakes hard. Bike stopped dead just before the front car's bumper, but rear wheel lifted a little & bike fell to the left. I escaped with a slight knee abrasion & broken clutch lever. My slacks were untorn.

 

My dad said good! A biker cant call himself a biker unless he has a few falls, dropped bike a few times, bike scratches, getting caught in the rain etc!

[RoboTech]

I don't think you can call yourself an experienced rider if you have never fallen off or drop your bike... If you never skidded, then you have never experienced what is a front or rear end washout, an most importantly, to develop the tactics and skill to overcome it the next time it happens... this is just one example... of course, you can ride very slowly, always keeping to the left and let everyone overtake you while you take forever to reach your destination to achieve this record... but is this actually good riding experience?.... Many years down the road, I don't think you will have any exciting stories to tell to your next generation... I'm not saying that you must chiong all the way to gain experience, that is for the racetrack.... for me, after almost 40 years of riding, I do not considered myself experienced... in fact, far from it, and consider myself still learning... jmho....

[duo]

I don't think you can call yourself an experienced rider if you have never fallen off or drop your bike... If you never skidded, then you have never experienced what is a front or rear end washout, an most importantly, to develop the tactics and skill to overcome it the next time it happens... this is just one example... of course, you can ride very slowly, always keeping to the left and let everyone overtake you while you take forever to reach your destination to achieve this record... but is this actually good riding experience?.... Many years down the road, I don't think you will have any exciting stories to tell to your next generation... I'm not saying that you must chiong all the way to gain experience, that is for the racetrack.... for me, after almost 40 years of riding, I do not considered myself experienced... in fact, far from it, and consider myself still learning... jmho....

I concur. Am still learning too.

 

I strongly believe any new rider will fall or drop their bike be it a clumsy fall or otherwise. Hence those just got their licence should just get a used bike. The pain of dropping a new bike compared to a used one is so much more. But then again you are paying for it so its your choice. Everyday is a learning experience no matter how many decades you have ridden. Even professional track riders fall no matter how many championships they have won. Better to get those minor falls than not falling for a long time and then fall disastrously.

[DeusExMachina]

Wise men said:

- There are 2 kinds of bikers. Those who have fallen, and those about to fall.

 

They also said:

- There are 3 ways to get off your bike. As the rider, as the pillion, or as a projectile.....

[kzone]

of course, you can ride very slowly, always keeping to the left and let everyone overtake you while you take forever to reach your destination to achieve this record... but is this actually good riding experience?....

 

this is a popular misconception. Going slow is actually quite dangerous as it invite other road users to overtake u, some doing it very dangerously, cutting right in front of u.

 

I find the safest speed especially for expressway is slightly faster than the rest of the cars. lane splitting between lane 1 & 2. of course, it varies depending on situation but on regular traffic including morning/evening peak, this seems the safest.

 

Another safe practise is always try to make urself predictable to other road users. Means u need to make sure that ur actions will show clearly what you intend to do and where u're heading to. Like signalling, check blind spot, speeding up or slowing down to move into another position/lane change, etc.\

 

Anticipation of other road users actions is also important. Other than experience, your effort to constantly anticipate and learn fm ur wrong anticipation is crucial.

 

yes u learn fm ur accidents n falls but there are too many ways for an accident to happen so please not ONLY learn fm ur falls/accidents. learn from others as well and always create scenarios in ur head, constantly planning escape routes in ur head so if its required one day, it will come naturally.

 

N finally, learn fm frens, go for courses, read up, watch u tube etc etc for riding techniques...

 

professionals takes risks on tracks to win. We take risks on road to stay alive.

[duo]

Wise men said:

- There are 2 kinds of bikers. Those who have fallen, and those about to fall.

 

They also said:

- There are 3 ways to get off your bike. As the rider, as the pillion, or as a projectile.....

Wise men also say only fools rush in.

 

 

[lkm]

I don't think you can call yourself an experienced rider if you have never fallen off or drop your bike... If you never skidded, then you have never experienced what is a front or rear end washout, an most importantly, to develop the tactics and skill to overcome it the next time it happens...

 

You see, here's the thing - it's rather bleak to sense that many rider's mentality is that a fall or a skid or an accident gives you experience, almost virtually to the extent that there seem to have some honour in it. Call me naive, but I refuse to believe in this fallacy. Take kzone's example - 9 years incident free. And if you compared him with someone who has been riding for, say, 1 year, but have had a couple of falls, who is more "experienced" here? The newbie may be a more "experienced faller", but kzone is definitely a more experienced RIDER - 9 years vs 1 year.

 

I respect every rider who have had their fall, picked themselves up, and carried on riding. I also respect such riders for sharing their experiences so that newbies (like me) can learn from these mistakes. But unless it's in a controlled environment such as on a track or on a dirt trail with proper gear, I think it's important to instil the mentality that it is NOT okay to fall. I'd like to challenge everyone here - those who have fallen, and those who are about to fall - to go ALL OUT to keep that record or break your own personal record of keeping your bike upright. On the road, there is ONLY 1 goal - and it is to be SAFE. If you can ride fast and be safe, good. If you need to be slower to be safe, so be it. If you need to lane split to be safe, do it. If you are not comfortable lane splitting and prefer to remain in the lane, do it! There is no absolute right or wrong here - fast, slow, split, no split. As long as you are safe, you WIN! =)

 

Ride safe everyone!

[GuiNNeSS]

Fallen so many times!

 

Twice moving. And so many time stationary!

 

The moving ones, err....later.

 

But stationary ones.....thats a lot more fun stories to tell.

 

After a moving accident. I rode my phantom out to LAB. My left knee was still bandaged straight and I was definitely riding or changing gear with my left backside slighly tilted above the seat. In full riding jacket, gloves and full face helmet.

 

Stop at a stop line, land the left foot down, it ended up near the road drain hole which is slanted in. and the whole bike toppled on me, cos my balance was so off. I was stucked cos my waist was resting on the kerb, and the straight leg was holding the full weight of the phantom, levering it up.

 

Several office clad fellas was kinda standing near to me, but when I looked up. All of them was looking high up in the sky ignoring me.

 

Finally, an really old ah pek, hobbled over, and his arm was in a sling. Pulled my bike and even side stand it.

 

I mentioned the matter on this forum. And another forumer, who hated my guts. Mentioned he was actually sitting at the kopi shop nearly, saw it happened, and didnt realise it was me. But he was like 'orbi good'. And I must be seducing the old ah pek. For him to have helped me up.

 

Its totally a good thing, that Full face helmet, a overlarge mesh riding jacket, gloves and hair hidden in the jacket....must have sexually aroused the ah pek, to come to a rescue instead of counting on young men.

 

I really learnt then. Its never the so called up there with a huge ego person that will help. They talk big, they look good and they are so fantastically so proud to have that all four limbs and senses working for them.

 

And it took a really poor looking 70plus year old wrinkled dark skin skinny ah pek in his ah pek slippers, washed till think berms shorts and what looks like washed till thin think material shirt, with a freshly bandaged, casted arm in a sling. To go onto a hot road, to pick up a not so heavy bike, and walked away. He didnt even asked me. (He probably cannot hear me thru my full face helmet too. Nor try to lift me up.

 

Just lifted the bike off me, side stand and walked away.

Edited May 16, 2016 by ViciousKitty74

[GuiNNeSS]

Another time, in preparation of the Class 2.

 

I had purposely went up a multi storey carpark, bring down several of my old bedsheets and padded mattress protector and lined the small carpark area. And lowered my super 4 on them.

 

Than I practised how to lift up the bike, from various angle. With and without gloves. i was sweating heavily, and so is my bike. I forgot to empty out the petrol tank and it was happily slushing expensive Singapore petrol all over the sheets......

[RoboTech]

You see, here's the thing - it's rather bleak to sense that many rider's mentality is that a fall or a skid or an accident gives you experience, almost virtually to the extent that there seem to have some honour in it. Call me naive, but I refuse to believe in this fallacy. Take kzone's example - 9 years incident free. And if you compared him with someone who has been riding for, say, 1 year, but have had a couple of falls, who is more "experienced" here? The newbie may be a more "experienced faller", but kzone is definitely a more experienced RIDER - 9 years vs 1 year.

 

I respect every rider who have had their fall, picked themselves up, and carried on riding. I also respect such riders for sharing their experiences so that newbies (like me) can learn from these mistakes. But unless it's in a controlled environment such as on a track or on a dirt trail with proper gear, I think it's important to instil the mentality that it is NOT okay to fall. I'd like to challenge everyone here - those who have fallen, and those who are about to fall - to go ALL OUT to keep that record or break your own personal record of keeping your bike upright. On the road, there is ONLY 1 goal - and it is to be SAFE. If you can ride fast and be safe, good. If you need to be slower to be safe, so be it. If you need to lane split to be safe, do it. If you are not comfortable lane splitting and prefer to remain in the lane, do it! There is no absolute right or wrong here - fast, slow, split, no split. As long as you are safe, you WIN! =)

 

Ride safe everyone!

 

Everyone is entitled to his or her point of view and beliefs... there is no right or wrong... just choices in life... I respect your choice and wish you well...

 

Adios, ride safe too, my fellow rider....

[lkm]

Its totally a good thing, that Full face helmet, a overlarge mesh riding jacket, gloves and hair hidden in the jacket....must have sexually aroused the ah pek, to come to a rescue instead of counting on young men.

 

To go onto a hot road, to pick up a not so heavy bike, and walked away. He didnt even asked me. (He probably cannot hear me thru my full face helmet too. Nor try to lift me up.

 

Just lifted the bike off me, side stand and walked away.

 

Sigh, sistar.... Horny ah-pek was dying to caress your (presumably?) naked (street) bike. Full riding jacket, gloves and a full face helmet? That's probably too covered up for ah-pek to get sufficiently aroused... Kekekek... =P

[RoboTech]

Fallen so many times!

 

Twice moving. And so many time stationary!

 

The moving ones, err....later.

 

But stationary ones.....thats a lot more fun stories to tell.

 

After a moving accident. I rode my phantom out to LAB. My left knee was still bandaged straight and I was definitely riding or changing gear with my left backside slighly tilted above the seat. In full riding jacket, gloves and full face helmet.

 

Stop at a stop line, land the left foot down, it ended up near the road drain hole which is slanted in. and the whole bike toppled on me, cos my balance was so off. I was stucked cos my waist was resting on the kerb, and the straight leg was holding the full weight of the phantom, levering it up.

 

Several office clad fellas was kinda standing near to me, but when I looked up. All of them was looking high up in the sky ignoring me.

 

Finally, an really old ah pek, hobbled over, and his arm was in a sling. Pulled my bike and even side stand it.

 

I mentioned the matter on this forum. And another forumer, who hated my guts. Mentioned he was actually sitting at the kopi shop nearly, saw it happened, and didnt realise it was me. But he was like 'orbi good'. And I must be seducing the old ah pek. For him to have helped me up.

 

Its totally a good thing, that Full face helmet, a overlarge mesh riding jacket, gloves and hair hidden in the jacket....must have sexually aroused the ah pek, to come to a rescue instead of counting on young men.

 

I really learnt then. Its never the so called up there with a huge ego person that will help. They talk big, they look good and they are so fantastically so proud to have that all four limbs and senses working for them.

 

And it took a really poor looking 70plus year old wrinkled dark skin skinny ah pek in his ah pek slippers, washed till think berms shorts and what looks like washed till thin think material shirt, with a freshly bandaged, casted arm in a sling. To go onto a hot road, to pick up a not so heavy bike, and walked away. He didnt even asked me. (He probably cannot hear me thru my full face helmet too. Nor try to lift me up.

 

Just lifted the bike off me, side stand and walked away.

 

Aiyah.... you want people to help you... can... ditch your riding jacket and jeans.... wear short skirt or micro shorts and tank top.... even car drivers will stop in the middle of the road to help you... and if your leg is in a cast, lagi better, they have a reason to carry you up too....

 

But seriously.... most people in office attire would not want to be associate with a motorcyclist for obvious reasons....

[RoboTech]

Another time, in preparation of the Class 2.

 

I had purposely went up a multi storey carpark, bring down several of my old bedsheets and padded mattress protector and lined the small carpark area. And lowered my super 4 on them.

 

Than I practised how to lift up the bike, from various angle. With and without gloves. i was sweating heavily, and so is my bike. I forgot to empty out the petrol tank and it was happily slushing expensive Singapore petrol all over the sheets......

 

Light the sheets on fire and we'll have a lovely bbq....

[duo]

Sigh, sistar.... Horny ah-pek was dying to caress your (presumably?) naked (street) bike. Full riding jacket, gloves and a full face helmet? That's probably too covered up for ah-pek to get sufficiently aroused... Kekekek... =P

 

Sistar?

[lkm]

Sistar?

 

Yeah - you never knew VK was one of those sweet little things eh? =P

[duo]

Yeah - you never knew VK was one of those sweet little things eh? =P

Who would have thought?

 

Must have been a heartbreaker during the heydays.

[kaiq]

Dropped bike many many times in the first few years. After a while the trend suddenly stops...

 

Lift bike up I always use "backside power" - lean by the side of the bike then use the legs to push it up. Just make sure side stand is already down when you are pushing from the right.

 

Learnt it from the XJR4 and FZ6 in CDC.

[simeone82]

Another time, in preparation of the Class 2.

 

I had purposely went up a multi storey carpark, bring down several of my old bedsheets and padded mattress protector and lined the small carpark area. And lowered my super 4 on them.

 

Than I practised how to lift up the bike, from various angle. With and without gloves. i was sweating heavily, and so is my bike. I forgot to empty out the petrol tank and it was happily slushing expensive Singapore petrol all over the sheets......

 

Wow what an idea to me to practice my bike to prepare for class 2.

When I first gotten my rc200, was riding to my friend's place and chit chatting then when I come off from the bike, I forgot side stand never put... nearly drop the bike as I can't get used to the bike weight.. lucky my friend was there to help me to hold..

I also can't mount on to the rc200 for a couple of times..

[DeusExMachina]

You see, here's the thing - it's rather bleak to sense that many rider's mentality is that a fall or a skid or an accident gives you experience, almost virtually to the extent that there seem to have some honour in it. Call me naive, but I refuse to believe in this fallacy. Take kzone's example - 9 years incident free. And if you compared him with someone who has been riding for, say, 1 year, but have had a couple of falls, who is more "experienced" here? The newbie may be a more "experienced faller", but kzone is definitely a more experienced RIDER - 9 years vs 1 year.

 

I respect every rider who have had their fall, picked themselves up, and carried on riding. I also respect such riders for sharing their experiences so that newbies (like me) can learn from these mistakes. But unless it's in a controlled environment such as on a track or on a dirt trail with proper gear, I think it's important to instil the mentality that it is NOT okay to fall. I'd like to challenge everyone here - those who have fallen, and those who are about to fall - to go ALL OUT to keep that record or break your own personal record of keeping your bike upright. On the road, there is ONLY 1 goal - and it is to be SAFE. If you can ride fast and be safe, good. If you need to be slower to be safe, so be it. If you need to lane split to be safe, do it. If you are not comfortable lane splitting and prefer to remain in the lane, do it! There is no absolute right or wrong here - fast, slow, split, no split. As long as you are safe, you WIN! =)

 

Ride safe everyone!

 

In a perfect world perhaps.

 

But in the real world, it's only a matter of time.

Maybe you made a mistake. Maybe the other guy made a mistake. Hell, maybe no one made a mistake and it's just your arse luck to run over oil, wet leaves, cow dung, or anything slippery. Or maybe a tree branch fell in your path, or some animal ran into you.

 

The point is, it's not about the fall, or how many falls you've had.

 

It's about whether you've learnt anything from that fall. What you were doing wrong. Or what someone else did wrong, or the crap situation that you were forced into. And maybe, just maybe next time, you can avoid it and keep upright.

 

That's all there is to it.

[Sharpedge]

I dont think having accidents make you a better rider.

 

I think its successfully avoiding potential accidents and close shaves on a daily basis that will truly make you a formidable runner.

 

*rider

Edited May 19, 2016 by Sharpedge

[Anodize]

after i got my license, I fell once. Forgot to put down my side stand and got down the bike assuming that my side stand is down. x.x"

[HairyDragon]

A wise man said (me) "experience teaches fools" - Last time I had an accident was 1970 when a car shot a red light and I hit the side while trying to stop the bike. As it not only hurt it cost a lot of money so I decided not to do it again So that's 45+ years of safe riding in different part of the world since.

 

 

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