Radiator - Problem Encountered

[redname]

Hi guys,

got a veri big problem. i noticed while i'm riding, sometimes there a small splash of water on my leg then jus now at JB, the splashes got veri hot. found out tht its coolant (by the smell n color of it). went back to s'pore n visited planet motors, the boss quote me $400 to change the radiator i where got tis kind of money.

 

sianz man, anyone can help me out with tis? i got 4 options now 1. change the $400 original radiator 2. change $200 chiong one 3. get 2nd hand from ah boy 4. planet motors tld me got tis soultion tht can temporary seal the leakage, is it true?

 

so how? i really sianz lah, jus buy bike got tis kind of prob

[HeBe]

Try to change the cap 1st... maybe the cap spoilt.. see how 1st..

[SuKiEyAkI]

Need specific detail bro.... The mechanic say what thing spoil? What is the main causes of the coolant spillage? Why must change whole coolant?

[redname]

Originally posted by SuKiEyAkI@Jul 24 2004, 12:39 AM

Need specific detail bro.... The mechanic say what thing spoil? What is the main causes of the coolant spillage? Why must change whole coolant?

he jus say radiator leaking so must change the whole thing

[Guest Lian Beng Beng]

There are 2 other ways.

 

1. If the leak isn't so bad, try those kind of liquid sealant for Radiator. Just pour into the radiator along with coolant... it will seal the hole up. If hole is too big, then this will not work

 

2. Cheaper to get the radiator repaired. You go ah boy and ask him for lobang. He helped me the last time.

 

Good luck

[acid]

dun trust everything the motordiam says. they will try to recommend a very expensive solution so that they will make more money.

 

ask a few motordiams for more opinions. $400 is a lot of money.

 

where exactly is the leak? as hebe mentioned, it could be radiator cap spoilt. or it could be a leaking or loose radiator hose.

 

ask the mech to pump in fresh water and see for yourself that the radiator net is really leaking. and make sure he pumps in properly. if he anyhow pump, then water may accidentally spill out and cause u to think that there is a leakage. check for leaks in the whole cooling system.

 

if your mech refuses to do this, then time to get suspicious and change mech. or you can DIY.

[SuKiEyAkI]

Originally posted by redname@Jul 24 2004, 12:46 AM

he jus say radiator leaking so must change the whole thing

As they said.... Go ard few more motordiams and ask ard... Do u know where is the leakage? Did they specifically point to u where is the hole? If u wan a original radiator, that would cost a bomb... Alternatively, u can ask the motorshop to rebuild a similiar one at much lower cost.... Or get a second hand one or chiong one... However, dun go into that conclusion yet... It might be juz a small hole that can be sealed... or hose leakage which can be replace... Or radiator cap spoil nia...

[redname]

Originally posted by Lian Beng Beng@Jul 24 2004, 01:25 AM

There are 2 other ways.

 

1. If the leak isn't so bad, try those kind of liquid sealant for Radiator. Just pour into the radiator along with coolant... it will seal the hole up. If hole is too big, then this will not work

 

2. Cheaper to get the radiator repaired. You go ah boy and ask him for lobang. He helped me the last time.

 

Good luck

1. where do u get tis? the mech did say smething bout tis wor, he say can tahan a while only.

 

2. i ask ah boy got 2nd hand or not, he say $80, then if i wanna replace, i'll get my fren to go along with me. he can get cheaper lor

[redname]

the leakage appears to come from the front lor, jus behind the forks. cause i can see on my engine the coolant stains seems to be splashed on them, so i assume it came from the front n the wind blow them to the engine there. its on the right side only btw

[Vtec1605198534]

in the mean time better keep topping up ur coolent...... 4 stroke running without coolent can lead u to more serious engine problem

[Superblackbox]

bro i hope this will help.

last time when i go kulai...

after i come back will haf stains one... white color guley stuff rite.

 

u check the screw locking the rubbet tube n radiator . most of the time vibrator cause the screw to be lose... it always happens to me.

 

go to a friendly motor shop.

fill up yur coolan. rememer how much the level is.

 

clean yur engine ther

ride for a few days n see if got stain ther or not.. then check yur cool

an water level..

 

hope this helps////

 

if it does

kopi on u ah.. hejheheheheh

:goodluck:

[redname]

Originally posted by Superblackbox@Jul 24 2004, 09:20 AM

bro i hope this will help.

last time when i go kulai...

after i come back will haf stains one... white color guley stuff rite.

 

u check the screw locking the rubbet tube n radiator . most of the time vibrator cause the screw to be lose... it always happens to me.

 

go to a friendly motor shop.

fill up yur coolan. rememer how much the level is.

 

clean yur engine ther

ride for a few days n see if got stain ther or not.. then check yur cool

an water level..

 

hope this helps////

 

if it does

kopi on u ah.. hejheheheheh

:goodluck:

coffee on me no prob. but coolant has green stains, not white gluey stuff, hehe, sounds a bit erotic to me. :laugh:

 

yah, ytd the motorshop i went to fill up for me FOC lor. i'll be checking the level quite often now.

 

i check the screw liao, tight tight.

 

but i'll try to keep in mind of ur advice, thnx

[redname]

tis morning i tried wat some of u guys said about checking which part leaking. i start the bike, made it straight n rev to let the coolant flow elh but no sign of leakage. but when i riding tht time got coolant stains. now i dam confuse sia.

 

maybe i jus go put tis radiator sealant thingy jus to play safe. anyone got any idea where to buy n how much?

[Superblackbox]

Originally posted by redname@Jul 24 2004, 09:37 AM

coffee on me no prob. but coolant has green stains, not white gluey stuff, hehe, sounds a bit erotic to me. :laugh:

 

yah, ytd the motorshop i went to fill up for me FOC lor. i'll be checking the level quite often now.

 

i check the screw liao, tight tight.

 

but i'll try to keep in mind of ur advice, thnx

coolent is green correct.

but after stuck n being burnt by the engine fin.thts the color i get..

unless u always wear short riding bike rite....

and its only one side which has the stain rite...

[-HANZ-]

must really find out where it leaks...

quite hard to find cos hole very small..

or u can follow the stain and trace to the hole..

then buy epoxy to seal the hole (1 yr le no problem)...

 

i have the same problem as u b4..

 

[kho686]

Originally posted by -=HANZ=-@Jul 24 2004, 12:51 PM

must really find out where it leaks...

quite hard to find cos hole very small..

or u can follow the stain and trace to the hole..

then buy epoxy to seal the hole (1 yr le no problem)...

 

i have the same problem as u b4..

 

Find another mechanic to confirm.

Last time i face the problem and also cannot find where leak.

After a month, it became worse and saw that the pipe jointing leak.

Change the rubber pie can leh.

Mechanic also scare me say need to change radiator. Just be careful.

 

Some information.

Leakage occure only when u running the bike cause heat n pressure build up cause the coolant to force out from the hairline leak.

if the radiator cap in bad shape, this will also occur.

look for stain at where the leak might be...

[redname]

ok, i've used the radiator sealent liao. when start can see a lot of it coming out, then it solwly dried up. no prob so far lah. i hope can last. maybe i kiasu a bit go buy the epoxy thingy u guys r saying. where to get ah? jus apply on the radiator itself rite?

[mokamoka]

Originally posted by redname@Jul 24 2004, 10:41 PM

ok, i've used the radiator sealent liao. when start can see a lot of it coming out, then it solwly dried up. no prob so far lah. i hope can last. maybe i kiasu a bit go buy the epoxy thingy u guys r saying. where to get ah? jus apply on the radiator itself rite?

if you have time, ride ard until it is piping hot... then showly observe your radiator for subtle signs of leakage...

 

Epoxy holds, but I think you can try to reenforce annually until you sell the bike...

 

Otherwise, URS Radiator at Ubi does a very good job of reconditioning of radiators... did mine at 120, through a bike shop cos when I went there, they quoted me 200++...

[Guest Lian Beng Beng]

Originally posted by redname@Jul 24 2004, 10:41 PM

ok, i've used the radiator sealent liao. when start can see a lot of it coming out, then it solwly dried up. no prob so far lah. i hope can last. maybe i kiasu a bit go buy the epoxy thingy u guys r saying. where to get ah? jus apply on the radiator itself rite?

Redname,

 

the sealant is not permanent.

 

When the radiator gets heated up, the hole will also expand and so the leak will increase too

 

Your radiator is already damaged. I suggest you either go source for a new radiator ( I wouldn't get a 2nd hand one) or go rebuild it.

[redname]

ok, there's no leakage now from the radiator but there's coolant coming out below the engine. how? is it too much coolant so got coolant coming out? i notice there r 2 rubber tubes near my right footrest, seems tht these two rubber pipes r wet with coolant, so maybe its coming out form there. i can't detect the hole where is it coming out from leh. help me pls

[BotakMonk]

Originally posted by redname@Jul 26 2004, 10:39 AM

ok, there's no leakage now from the radiator but there's coolant coming out below the engine. how? is it too much coolant so got coolant coming out? i notice there r 2 rubber tubes near my right footrest, seems tht these two rubber pipes r wet with coolant, so maybe its coming out form there. i can't detect the hole where is it coming out from leh. help me pls

the cap spoilt liaoz. change cap should be ok.

[redname]

Originally posted by BotakMonk@Jul 26 2004, 11:39 AM

the cap spoilt liaoz. change cap should be ok.

i jus change the cap when i put the radiator sealant

[ismail ithnin]

I HAVE SAME PROBLEM SINCE I TOP UP WITH RADIATOR STOP LEAK LIQUID FROM CARREFOUR SUNTEC, AND STOP USING COOLEN LIQUID JUST WATER IT ALL OK NOW THIS HAPPEN 3 YEARS AGO. OK

[SuKiEyAkI]

Originally posted by redname@Jul 26 2004, 10:39 AM

ok, there's no leakage now from the radiator but there's coolant coming out below the engine. how? is it too much coolant so got coolant coming out? i notice there r 2 rubber tubes near my right footrest, seems tht these two rubber pipes r wet with coolant, so maybe its coming out form there. i can't detect the hole where is it coming out from leh. help me pls

Those pipes are overflow pipes... Coolant overflow from there is common if u top up ur reserve coolant tank to max.... Note: Top up to "max" level only. any excess will overflow out from the pipe... Hoppe this helps....

[redname]

Originally posted by ismail ithnin@Jul 26 2004, 12:26 PM

I HAVE SAME PROBLEM SINCE I TOP UP WITH RADIATOR STOP LEAK LIQUID FROM CARREFOUR SUNTEC, AND STOP USING COOLEN LIQUID JUST WATER IT ALL OK NOW THIS HAPPEN 3 YEARS AGO. OK

i jus poured in liao. lets see the result next time when i ride the bike lah