[Technical] Possible Solutions to your Phantom's Problem

[Spark_135]

Sounds similar to Spark_135's problem? That time his grounding got problem screw up his electricals.

 

Identical symptoms just that mine is grounding issues his is fuse.

[jtzx]

:PPhantom TA200/TA150 List of Problems and Solution

 

Problem 1: Exhaust emitting white smoke.

Reason: Engine oil is leaking into your chamber.

Solution: Pistol rings needs to be changed. Go to a bike workshop.

 

Reason: Your bike has a 2 stroke engine(ta150).

Solution: Its normal.

 

 

Problem 2: Engine stalls in heavy rain and unable / weak to start.

Reason: Spark plug could be getting wet by the rain causing it not not function

Solution: Remove, dry the spark plug and put it back properly. Go get the plug cap replaced.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture may be too rich or lean.

Solution: Tune your carb to a leaner setting (turn screw anti-clockwise by 1/4).

Turning the screw clockwise to enrich the mixture. (once again, tune in 1/4 or 1/2 turns of the air correction screw, located on the LEFT side of the carb)

Bike tends to rev rapidly but have poor acceleration if lean, and if too rich, will have "spongy" / slow throttle response at high speeds.

If in need of advise / demonstration sms pandora's kitten at 93270801 (advice/demo given is FOC)

 

Reason: Air leakages.

Solution: Change some of the rubber parts in tank.

 

Reason: Air filter clogged.

Solution : Get your air filter changed. You are advised to inspect the air filter every 4000 or so kms and change it at 10k (Honda warranty service manual)

 

Problem 3: Flat / Punctured Tyres

Solution: Try to inflate tyre with portable pump / bicycle pump then go bike or tyre shop. DO NOT ride on flat tyres as they may damage your tyre or wheel.

 

Solution: Use tyre repair kit, plug and pump = good to go. Kit can be bought at LAB.

Solution 2: Buy a can of fix a flat from Carrefour or petrol stations, put it in your box.

 

Problem 4: Cannot / Hard to start bike

Reason: Battery may be weak (confirmed by a tick sound from the right side cover under the seat).

Solution: Push Start(Clutch in after running with bike, release, give a quick throttle and clutch in) and go get battery replaced or ride to charge(if still can be charged).

You are advised to use third gear to push start (due to Phantom's short gearing) or even fourth on very slippery driveways (such as on some landed properties)

 

Reason: Fuse may be blown.

Solution: Check Fuse. Fuse is located on right side of bike. Remove chrome cover under the seat and see. Look out for the centre of the fuse if its broken then FUSED lor. Change new one.

 

Reason: Bike is in gear, kill switch is on, no petrol, petcock off.

Solution: Obvious.

 

Reason: Rectifier issue (despite new battery, bike soon becomes hard to start again)

Solution: Get mechanic to check with a voltage meter. Ah chong has one.

 

Reason: Petrol topped up too full - Don't laugh.

Solution: The petrol tank is not meant to be filled to the brim. Leave some space for air.

 

Reason: Water in petrol

Solution: Check that fuel cap is secure and no leaks

 

++ Reason: If everything is working fine CDI might be spoilt

Solution: Tow to shop and change..2nd hand one will cause app $100 1st hand $200+

Others:

- Check ignition coil for sparks.

- Check magneto coil.

 

 

Problem 5: Cant go more den 80 km/h

Reason: You are not in the 6th gear

Solution: Down 1 time 1st gear. up 5 times to sixth gear

Solution: If you have very poor acceleration when throttle is opened, you are running lean. Enrich mixture by 1/2 to 1 turn of the air correction screw.

 

Reason: If confirm no 6th gear, gear box may be in bad shape

Solution: Go to a reputable workshop for a checkup, may need to over haul.

 

Reason: Insufficient Engine Oil (Very bad)

Solution: Check with dipstick as according to manual. Buy Engine Oil from petrol kiosk and top up.

 

Reason: Clutch may have been worn off (Engine reving very high but no power to go any faster)

Solution: Bike shop chance clutch.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich (Crazy vibrations at higher revs making it too uncomfortable)

Solution: Tune air fuel mixture leaner (Turn screw anti-clockwise 1/2 - 1 round)

 

Reason: Sprocket may be worn off

Solution: Change sprocket and chain.

 

 

Problem 6: Weird sound on my bike

Reason: Might be battery low. (Ticking sound on right side when start button depressed)

Solution: Push start, change battery

 

Reason: If sound is on gearbox side, chain may be too slack

Solution: Check your chain tension 1st. Should have about 2 to 3cm slack, tested at the center of the bottom span of the chain. Anything more, get it tightened. Also, lubricate your chain.

Solution: If you are using spray on chain lube, dirt and grease may be thrown off the chain during normal operation. When a lot of grease accumulates on the chain tensioner (rubber cylinder) and swingarm protector (rubber bar) the chain will emit a loud sound as though running through sand. Scrape and wipe away the excess grease and enjoy the quietness.

 

 

Problem 7: - Exhaust Header got holes. Can repair?

Reason: Got one specific hole which is ok.

Solution: If unsure, post some pictures.

 

 

Problem 8: - Engine oil Dip stick broken (Broken part might be in engine)

Solution:

- Send to bikeshop.

- New dipstick costs around $11.

 

 

Problem 9: I have tried everything but to no avail. Any tow numbers please?

Solution:

- 67474740 Tiko cheong.

- 64560018 Wing Yap.

- 97384501 => Hello, you the tua chia one?

 

 

Problem 10: Engine Part Leaking Oil

Reason: Gasket Spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

Reason: Cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

 

Problem 11: When riding, bike lean to one side. Let go of handlebar, steering was shaky and wobbling

Reason: Might be steering cone problem.

Solution: Go bike shop to get it fixed. May also need re-alignment.

 

Reason: Wheel bearings spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it changed.

 

Reason: Wheel alignment might have problem.

Solution: Bike shop, get it fixed.

 

 

Problem 12: Speedo is not working

Reason: The cable, or the gear at the end of the cable is spoilt or loose.

Solution: If loose, plug it back or tighten. Else needs replacement, go bike shop.

 

Reason: Speedo spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop.

 

 

Problem 13: My exhaust gives have a loud bang regularly. (Backfire)

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich or too lean.

Solution: Retune the carb. (check problem 24)

 

 

Problem 14: I lost my bike Key!!! What to do??

Solution: Go find the key smith.

 

Solution: If want to change ignition, look for Ah Chong (Planet) or scrapyard.

 

 

Problem 15: Bike pickup super slow. Even slower than small cc cars.

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change your clutch plates.

Solution: Fuel/air mixture too lean giving poor acceleration and a hot engine

 

Reason: Your brake is dragging

Solution: Check wheel spin, check the brake pads if its time to replace, check if brake caliper mounted properly, check disc rotor warped or not

 

 

Problem 16: Damaged Exhaust: Header got hole / Muffler loose or dropping.

Solution: Header got hole can weld it up.

Solution: Muffler dropping can cut open the pipe and take it out but pipe will sound louder.

Solution: Alternatively can change the whole system, pipe + header, about 300+-.

 

Problem 17: Hard to kick the gears

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change or top up EO.

Solution: Change clutch plate.

 

Reason: Your clutch cable is breaking.

Solution: Replace your clutch cable

 

Problem 18: When cold start, bike got "tick tick" sound

Reason: cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Change the cam chain tensioner.

Solution: If its rattling sound instead of "tick tick" sound, bring bike to mechanic.

 

Problem 19: Bike wobble for no apparent reason.

Reason: Might have problem with wheel bearings or tyre pressure.

Solution: Check that the tyre pressure is correct.

Solution: If tyre pressure is correct, most probably is the bearing spoilt.

Solution:Change new bearings.

 

Problem 20: In Vehicle Unit (IU) Spoilt.

Reason: There is a whole lot of reason, old, water seep in, etc etc.

Solution: But a second hand IU but need to transfer name.

Solution: Buy a new IU at $155.80 w GST.

Solution: Don't go into carparks or go through ERP.

 

Problem 21: Weak Battery.

Reason: Battery old. Cannot charge or hold properly. etc etc

Solution: Recharge the battery (Wet), Dry ones cannot be recharged?.

Solution: Most people change batteries instead of recharging.

Solution: If leaving bike alone for a long time, disconnect the battery to prevent further unnecessary drainage.

 

Problem 22: Need to step real hard for brake lights to light up.

Reason: There is a knob for adjustment, it might be loose

Solution: There is a black screw lookalike plastic knob( near the spring) located somewhere near the rear brake pedal. u can play around with the knob by turning to adjust the sensitivity of your rear brake when you apply brake.

 

Problem 23: IU Spoilt.

Reason: No reason in particular. If its spoilt, its spoilt.

Solution: Inspect at Vicom. Replace a new one if under warranty. If not, have to buy a new one at about $155 (Slim).

 

Problem 24: Backfire tooooo frequent. Like 3-5 times a day. Or when u stop normally, not even sudden brake.

Reason: Gasket at exhaust head leaking air. Or #2, Exhaust has holes

Solution: Replace gasket. Or #2, send it to Planet Motor (ahchong) to weld the holes, or get a second-hand exhaust or get one cheaper exhaust at LAB (must make order)

Solution: Fuel-air mixture likely too rich. Backfires when throttle is closed, due to residual fuel afterburning in the exhaust header. This is bad for the valves and the catalytic converter.

 

25: After turning off my engine there is a tick tick tick sound some where.

Reason: Exhast pipe is cooling down. Hot it expands so cold it turns back.

Solution: Do DIY exhaust wrap. Reduced backpressure = faster heat evacuation, leading to high speed silent running and silent cooldown after engine off. (Pandora's Kitten :3)

 

Problem 26: Cannot find neutral gear!

Solution: Gear oil not suitable, change different grade of gear oil (see gearoil thread for details)

Solution: Gear box dying.

Solution: Engine is overheated. (Running too lean/ Not enough engine oil. An overheating engine may cause excessive oil consumption, especially when using less tolerant mineral oil)

Solution: Clutch freeplay not enough

Solution: If cannot find neutral when engine is hot but fine when engine is cold, that means engine oil has degraded and cannot maintain its viscosity at high temperatures. Changing engine oil should solve the issue.

 

Problem 27: Handlebar position is not centered (while riding). Handlebars are "straight" but wheel points to one side.

Solution: Lock the wheel, grab the handlebars firmly and twist the bars until straightened. The risers are flexible to some degree, due to the vibration damping rubber washers. (Demonstrated by Planet Motors)

Solution: If your steering lock is spoilt, put the wheel against a pillar or a wall.

 

Problem 28: Bike hard to U-turn. Riding position not comfortable as handlebars too high up.

Solution: Adjust the angle of the handlebars. Loosen the bottom two screws of the risers, pull back the bars so they "rise" towards your face. This will give you a more relaxed riding posture and you are able to enjoy a greater turning angle at low speeds. If your handlebars are set to rise straight upwards forcing you to stretch forward and upwards to steer, your elbows will prevent you from turning easily at low speeds

 

Problem 29: Engine oil disappears at a fast rate

Reason: Piston ring busted.

Solution: See mechanic. Top overhaul probably needed.

 

Problem 30: Side stand broke off with mounting lug.

Solution: Get a mechanic to weld the mounting back.

[ahch0ng]

Problem 4: Cannot / Hard to start bike

Reason: Battery may be weak (confirmed by a tick sound from the right side cover under the seat).

Solution: Push Start(Clutch in after running with bike, release, give a quick throttle and clutch in) and go get battery replaced or ride to charge(if still can be charged).

You are advised to use third gear to push start (due to Phantom's short gearing) or even fourth on very slippery driveways (such as on some landed properties)

 

Reason: Fuse may be blown.

Solution: Check Fuse. Fuse is located on right side of bike. Remove chrome cover under the seat and see. Look out for the centre of the fuse if its broken then FUSED lor. Change new one.

 

Reason: Bike is in gear, kill switch is on, no petrol, petcock off.

Solution: Obvious.

 

Reason: Rectifier issue (despite new battery, bike soon becomes hard to start again)

Solution: Get mechanic to check with a voltage meter. Ah chong has one.

 

Reason: Petrol topped up too full - Don't laugh.

Solution: The petrol tank is not meant to be filled to the brim. Leave some space for air.

 

Reason: Water in petrol

Solution: Check that fuel cap is secure and no leaks

 

++ Reason: If everything is working fine CDI might be spoilt

Solution: Tow to shop and change..2nd hand one will cause app $100 1st hand $200+

Others:

- Check ignition coil for sparks.

- Check magneto coil.

 

=Battery : super bright when neutral light.

=fuel : full tank

=gear : not in gear, in neutral start bike

=headlight : always off when starting bike, but i recently changed to new headlight so its kinda like using Super4 lightbulb..12V still.

 

i think im having this problem..

morning cold start always no problem, until recently my bike couldnt start by electrical means, but manage to start when push start..

the problem seemed to be "degrading"...as in the problem starting up at first was weak, den gradually weaker and weaker until cannot electrical start.

 

 

after riding, i park at destination and try to start bike, can start by electrical means eh...

 

 

*edit*

FUSE problem?

earth cable problem?

Edited October 31, 2012 by ahch0ng
adding possible problem

[hellamatrix2]

=Battery : super bright when neutral light.

=fuel : full tank

=gear : not in gear, in neutral start bike

=headlight : always off when starting bike, but i recently changed to new headlight so its kinda like using Super4 lightbulb..12V still.

 

i think im having this problem..

morning cold start always no problem, until recently my bike couldnt start by electrical means, but manage to start when push start..

the problem seemed to be "degrading"...as in the problem starting up at first was weak, den gradually weaker and weaker until cannot electrical start.

 

 

after riding, i park at destination and try to start bike, can start by electrical means eh...

 

 

*edit*

FUSE problem?

earth cable problem?

 

Nice seeing you ahch0ng at planet today

[AbangKau]

Ho guys, any one know where's the best to get new air filter?

[fiz_ism]

Ho guys, any one know where's the best to get new air filter?

 

You can get at ah boy for 10 bucks. Change yourself though.

[naim]

original can get from FJT or eversuccess. 5 mins to change.

[AbangKau]

Okie thanks guys! Just about time for me to change, FC getting lousy lol

[ahch0ng]

Nice seeing you ahch0ng at planet today

 

haha hello there!

 

end up i change battery and my headlight(it was using H4 light bulb which literally blew off my headlight)...

 

back to original...and no more problem~

[AbangKau]

Just changed my air filter, ah boy one $10, but the other shops $20 sia, got diff anot ah?

[osxunix]

Just changed my air filter, ah boy one $10, but the other shops $20 sia, got diff anot ah?

 

My bike shop charge $25 for Genuine Honda Made in Thailand with install is the other shop selling genuine from Honda?

Ah Boy selling $10 not genuine but useable anyway.

[naim]

IIRC i bought mine original one is $15+ thereabouts. cfm not $20 one. nt sure abt d prices nw though. maybe hike lar.

[henchster]

Hi, for the past few days I been seeing this small black oil pool after leaving my bike park for the night. I checked my engine oil level and its didn't change, still maintain the xxx level. Does anyone know what is happening to my bike?

 

Thanks

 

As the photo show 2 spots, actually is just one spot, cause I managed to park at the same place, so that would be 2 different spot for 2 days.

http://i.imgur.com/BiUjN.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UfILP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ipF32.jpg

[Spark_135]

Look under your engine like you would want to see a girls upskirt. Check your gasket if it is torn (try looking at those gap, see if oil is leaking thru). Or your drain nut if its leaking or not. Mine was a torn gasket due to ageing that resulted in a massive oil leak.

Edited November 6, 2012 by Spark_135

[naim]

doesnt seem like the drain plug as its slightly further forward. seems like the sprocket oil seal.

[Silent Hunter]

You oiled to much is it?

If pump too many times or oil everyday will over oil and the excess oil will drip off the front sprocket.

[Silent Hunter]

You oiled to much is it?

If pump too many times or oil everyday will over oil and the excess oil will drip off the front sprocket.

[epidemic41]

anyone have the ta 150 manual? wasnt able to get it from yuekeong. any help at all is appreciated!

[raul7]

anyone have the ta 150 manual? wasnt able to get it from yuekeong. any help at all is appreciated!

 

PM me your email

[henchster]

You oiled to much is it?

If pump too many times or oil everyday will over oil and the excess oil will drip off the front sprocket.

 

I have an ezzyoiler install, and it was okay for the first few weeks, didnt see this pool of small oil patch maybe its from that? but the spoil is usually like under the joint of the stand

[Silent Hunter]

Try this. Wipe away excess oil from your chain and sprockets, both front and back, then don't oil for 2 days see if got oil dripping again.

[naim]

yup if possible remove the front sprocket cover and clean up that area too. that area can have alot of dirt build-up as well.

[henchster]

okay, will do thanks all for the suggestion.

[thatjayman]

Hi guys,

 

A noob in Phantom here. Anyways, I'm having problems e starting my bike, especially when I leave it overnight. Seems that when the headlights are "on", nothing happens when I press the starter button (no cranking, no clicking). It will only start if I either 1) switch off the headlights or; 2) if I leave the lights on, I'd have to clutch in to start the bike. What seems to be the problem? Been having this problem since I bought the bike in July. Changed the batteries last Thursday when it went kaput (couldn't even push start the bike) but still having this problem. Any advice is much appreciated!

[Spark_135]

yup if possible remove the front sprocket cover and clean up that area too. that area can have alot of dirt build-up as well.

 

Hmm with due respect to you, to give you a benefit of doubt (not suspecting what u suggested), he said for the past few days he been seeing oil spots of that kind. Either his front sprocket cover is really filled with so much oil due to over oiling, or it could be another reason like a torn gasket as i mentioned. I dont mean to sound "act pro" but im worried for him because i had the problem of torn gasket and my EO is gone in 3 days (so fast because my piston ring also gone). That is dangerous as riding without oil can potentially damage the engine or even seize it during riding. And the prob of torn seal took me 2 weeks to discover it because the oil dripped from the drain plug direction, as the oil from the torn gasket slowed flowed down into the drain plug and dripped there. Hmm what i suggest is he open the cover as u guys suggested, see if the inner side is oil stained or contains some levels of oil. If there isnt, with the back of his head almost touching the floor, try look along the gasket area where the main engine oil sump is bolted to the side piece if its oily.