Most power output LEGAL Endcan?

[fruitcakepablohoney]

Just checking.....

 

After putting on the full system, issit sure to come out flames?

 

That means issit too rich or lean?

 

Issit compulsory must have PC3 after putting full system?

 

Hpoe you guys can answer! Thanks

[WW]

Originally posted by fruitcakepablohoney@Jul 15 2006, 11:59 AM

Just checking.....

 

After putting on the full system, issit sure to come out flames?

 

That means issit too rich or lean?

 

Issit compulsory must have PC3 after putting full system?

 

Hpoe you guys can answer! Thanks

In most case, it too rich. And if you install a full system without tunning, the bike performance will not be as good, and is a waste of $$$ ,cos you cant get the full power out of the system. But you definately can feel the different.

Under normal condition, your bike low end will suffer if you install a full system without tunning. but your mid and top end will be better than stock.

So it better to put on a PC if you are going to get a full system.

[fruitcakepablohoney]

Originally posted by WW@Jul 15 2006, 01:57 PM

In most case, it too rich. And if you install a full system without tunning, the bike performance will not be as good, and is a waste of $$$ ,cos you cant get the full power out of the system. But you definately can feel the different.

Under normal condition, your bike low end will suffer if you install a full system without tunning. but your mid and top end will be better than stock.

So it better to put on a PC if you are going to get a full system.

Thanks WW for the sound advise! Sounds logical.

 

I presume you've fix exhaust/PC3 on your bike!

 

Any reccomendations where i should do the PC3 with tuning?

 

The one at Bukit Merah or Looi Motor? Any other place that you trust for tuning?

 

Thanks dude!

[-PeNsKe-]

Originally posted by fruitcakepablohoney@Jul 15 2006, 06:47 PM

Thanks WW for the sound advise! Sounds logical.

 

I presume you've fix exhaust/PC3 on your bike!

 

Any reccomendations where i should do the PC3 with tuning?

 

The one at Bukit Merah or Looi Motor? Any other place that you trust for tuning?

 

Thanks dude!

If u asked him where to tune i think he Unity is the definately answer.

[retro]

Originally posted by -=[PeNsKe]=-@Jul 15 2006, 06:49 PM

If u asked him where to tune i think he Unity is the definately answer.

ya he ambassador of unity leh!!!

[retro]

Originally posted by WW@Jul 15 2006, 01:57 PM

In most case, it too rich. And if you install a full system without tunning, the bike performance will not be as good, and is a waste of $$$ ,cos you cant get the full power out of the system. But you definately can feel the different.

Under normal condition, your bike low end will suffer if you install a full system without tunning. but your mid and top end will be better than stock.

So it better to put on a PC if you are going to get a full system.

sure can feel diff.. i put shorty end can lost top end. think must put in my pc3 liao.. lying on my table no time to go... things will be better after pc3... hey you recommand tekka mapping?

[eiyso]

sry ar wad is a endcan and pc3?

[fruitcakepablohoney]

Originally posted by retro@Jul 16 2006, 01:32 AM

ya he ambassador of unity leh!!!

Wah...WW so power at Unity?

 

What about other place got do PC3/tuning/dyno?

 

Saw only Unity got the dyno room only.

 

Any suggestions from you guys?

[-PeNsKe-]

Originally posted by fruitcakepablohoney@Jul 16 2006, 10:10 AM

Wah...WW so power at Unity?

 

What about other place got do PC3/tuning/dyno?

 

Saw only Unity got the dyno room only.

 

Any suggestions from you guys?

Loois Motor at Kaki Bukit.

[fruitcakepablohoney]

Originally posted by -=[PeNsKe]=-@Jul 16 2006, 10:11 AM

Loois Motor at Kaki Bukit.

That's what someone recommended me too!

 

But thought need dyno machine to do it right?

[-PeNsKe-]

Originally posted by fruitcakepablohoney@Jul 16 2006, 10:17 AM

That's what someone recommended me too!

 

But thought need dyno machine to do it right?

Yeah they have the Dyno machine too.

[WW]

Originally posted by fruitcakepablohoney@Jul 16 2006, 10:17 AM

That's what someone recommended me too!

 

But thought need dyno machine to do it right?

the one at loois is a different machine. But still can tune . But comfirm i recommend unity for tunning lah. Unity and pleasure motor is using a more new model the dynojet250.

[WW]

Originally posted by eiyso@Jul 16 2006, 03:16 AM

sry ar wad is a endcan and pc3?

endcan, is so call your exhaust muffler. PC3 is power commdaner 3. a device that can tune your air/fuel ration to make your bike run smooth and get the best of the bike out if you had install any aftermaket part to your bike.

[eiyso]

means the endcan is the whole exhaust ting? the shiny aluminium part?

btw wad does it mean full exhaust system and how it works?

[WW]

Originally posted by eiyso@Jul 16 2006, 03:59 PM

means the endcan is the whole exhaust ting? the shiny aluminium part?

btw wad does it mean full exhaust system and how it works?

Wow, i think it better for you to read up some bike mag first.

Exhuast system , the whole system which include the header or so call collector and down with a mid pipe and than to a muffler or on bike we call a end can. Most exhuast is make up of stainless material. But some bike use titanium for that.

Anybike come with a full exhuast system. Just that we offer change it to a aftermarket exhaust. Some ppl just change the end can, but some change the whole system to a aftermarket one. That why you had see us talking a bout full system in short form.

[retro]

wah.. you need to take up lessons from WW... he xpert in this field!!!

[fruitcakepablohoney]

Thanks ALL for the sound advise.

 

What about the mapping? How many mappings will there be?

 

Will it be like cars? Cos we have a few mappings with the aftermarket ECU.

 

And what's tekka mapping RETRO?

 

Any of you guys care to add on? WW/RETRO/PENSKE?

 

Appreciate your advise!

[WW]

Originally posted by fruitcakepablohoney@Jul 17 2006, 09:32 AM

Thanks ALL for the sound advise.

 

What about the mapping? How many mappings will there be?

 

Will it be like cars? Cos we have a few mappings with the aftermarket ECU.

 

And what's tekka mapping RETRO?

 

Any of you guys care to add on? WW/RETRO/PENSKE?

 

Appreciate your advise!

For PC3, only one map can be store. I do not understand about the stock one, cos for yamaha, i know you can adjust the CO setting.

 

For PC3, you can ask the mech to run a few map, but only one can be store inside the PC3. Like after you change your exhuast. you can tune with the baffler or without it. But normally it will be tune without it,cos we like loud noise,unless you are alway travlling around SG, and with a baffler i think power wise will be much less.

But if you got a laptop, you can actually change the map. . So you can have a few map store inside your laptop and change it as and when you like.But i think it very troublesome.

 

TEKA mapping is only ment for suzuki FI bike. It tune by adding the fuel at certain range, unlike PC3 , which is more precise.

[retro]

changing maps using laptop not very troublesome. unless your PC3 hard to reach. if not jus bring laptop hook it up and start bike to power up the PC3.. replace the map using the program provided and you got another map in ya PC3!!! change everything on ya bike back to stock, jus need to remove ya PC3 and ECU takes over, back to Factory settings.

[VoLcAnO]

normally a pc3usb costs abt $400++??Do prices usually include tuning?

[retro]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Jul 17 2006, 03:27 PM

normally a pc3usb costs abt $400++??Do prices usually include tuning?

$400++ so cheap ah?? where?? think so cheap no tuning... maybe wil help you add the map.. no dyno..

[Guest yanani18&27]

Originally posted by honam24@Jun 19 2006, 06:01 PM

'Arrow' supporter...

 

 

yup.me too arrow supporter......

[fruitcakepablohoney]

Originally posted by WW@Jul 17 2006, 02:30 PM

For PC3, only one map can be store. I do not understand about the stock one, cos for yamaha, i know you can adjust the CO setting.

 

For PC3, you can ask the mech to run a few map, but only one can be store inside the PC3. Like after you change your exhuast. you can tune with the baffler or without it. But normally it will be tune without it,cos we like loud noise,unless you are alway travlling around SG, and with a baffler i think power wise will be much less.

But if you got a laptop, you can actually change the map. . So you can have a few map store inside your laptop and change it as and when you like.But i think it very troublesome.

 

TEKA mapping is only ment for suzuki FI bike. It tune by adding the fuel at certain range, unlike PC3 , which is more precise.

Very informative WW, thanks for taking time to answer!

 

Very similiar to cars tuning, can store the mappings in the notebook for different occasions.

 

Think might as well put the BMG filters too.

 

I'll take your advise & go to Unity, since i'm getting the full system from next door.

 

Btw, estimate how much the whole thing will cost? (PC3/Tuning?)

 

Was told the cans are coming end of this month (can't wait to see them! heehee )

 

Thanks again dude!

[WW]

Originally posted by retro@Jul 17 2006, 03:16 PM

changing maps using laptop not very troublesome. unless your PC3 hard to reach. if not jus bring laptop hook it up and start bike to power up the PC3.. replace the map using the program provided and you got another map in ya PC3!!! change everything on ya bike back to stock, jus need to remove ya PC3 and ECU takes over, back to Factory settings.

Dun need to take out pc3 to go back stock setting, just input a "0"map can laio.

[WW]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Jul 17 2006, 03:27 PM

normally a pc3usb costs abt $400++??Do prices usually include tuning?

For a PC3 with full tunning ,it should cost about $650. And getting a PC3 from a authoriesed dealer like unity,give you a one yr warrenty. They had been fake PC3 around. That look the same as a PC3 and it can also be tune, but it spoil easily. \

Can get more info from the dynojet website. That tell you about the fake PC3.