SBF Majesty 250/400 Cafe 2008

[antonioshabirto]

Originally posted by Scarab@Aug 14 2006, 11:25 AM

That scarabeo is history now. It's the 200cc one(actual cc is 176). One of the best scooter I ever owned (except for the spares support).

im a big fan of italian bikes and i know the quality of them.

 

 

so let say in comparison of X9 and Majesty ??

 

 

which one will you go for ??

[unocvin]

I too am a fan of Italiano ... the heritage, history and legacy of italian marque .. wah ..

 

I go for the Majesty though ..

 

.... i don't mind replacement parts being a little pricey but I can't take the down time and breakdown interval ... I had my heart set on a Gilera Nexus ... the customer service at Piaggio put me off big time .. then by chance I met an ex-Nenus and X9 rider... he was so heart broken ... he's a Yam now..

[Scarab]

Originally posted by antonioshabirto@Aug 14 2006, 01:01 PM

im a big fan of italian bikes and i know the quality of them.

 

 

so let say in comparison of X9 and Majesty ??

 

 

which one will you go for ??

Between the X9 and Majesty, I'll go for the Jap Majesty. Super smooth and reliability is there. And lotsa after market parts, too.

[antonioshabirto]

Originally posted by Scarab@Aug 14 2006, 01:23 PM

Between the X9 and Majesty, I'll go for the Jap Majesty. Super smooth and reliability is there. And lotsa after market parts, too.

the problem is ... the new majesty cost a bomb $10,500 on the road.

 

I went all ard ... some shops are seling the old majesty which is not so appealing.

 

so its kinda sucky. i guess i have to wait for the newer one to be sold at shopes or wait for the price to drop for the new ones.

[Scarab]

Originally posted by antonioshabirto@Aug 14 2006, 01:28 PM

the problem is ... the new majesty cost a bomb $10,500 on the road.

 

I went all ard ... some shops are seling the old majesty which is not so appealing.

 

so its kinda sucky. i guess i have to wait for the newer one to be sold at shopes or wait for the price to drop for the new ones.

Take your time to search...

 

But someone is looking for that too... so you better be fast if you see one for sale.

[antonioshabirto]

Originally posted by Scarab@Aug 14 2006, 01:33 PM

Take your time to search...

 

But someone is looking for that too... so you better be fast if you see one for sale.

i have chk the whole singapore .... there are some majesty but its not to my liking... its the old majesty and im looking at the newer models.

 

the old ones are not appealing at all

[unocvin]

...can't help you with the aesthetic tho .. heehee ...comparing to a Mk 2 i prefer the old design actually, it feels more consistent except the headlight a bit too low ... it's a mid 90's design thing .. the tail light cluster reminds me of Mazda 323 / BMW 3 series / Toyota Corona of the same era ... mechanically they are all about the same .. how much the shops offering for FP / FQ plates?

[SeanLo]

Originally posted by unocvin@Aug 14 2006, 09:00 AM

Sean : "Actually theres no need to change as the clutch was still in good condition but the knocking sound was pretty unnerving especially while idling the bike."

 

I have the irritating knocking sound.. couldn't trace it .. though I did find out through from one Oz rider that his was contributed by worn variator cams/spacer .. I changed that, my cam was badly worn and the sound stop! ... only for a day ...hahahaha ... so you think it was caused by some sort of loose play in the clutch assembly.. what could it be?

 

Scarab: How's the new ride? It's the 500? And running piaggio engines?

If you open the clutch assembly, you will see 3 clutch shoes, springs and 3 rubber stoppers. The rubber stoppers in my clutch assembly were already worn out thus they could not cushion the shoes properly when they are opened thus the noise while idling. Yamaha don't sell the stoppers seperate unlike Honda thus need to get the whole assembly even though my shoes were in good condition.

 

Sean

[SeanLo]

Originally posted by antonioshabirto@Aug 14 2006, 01:43 PM

i have chk the whole singapore .... there are some majesty but its not to my liking... its the old majesty and im looking at the newer models.

 

the old ones are not appealing at all

What plate? FS or newer? Cause my friend looking for one.

 

Sean

[antonioshabirto]

Originally posted by unocvin@Aug 14 2006, 03:44 PM

...can't help you with the aesthetic tho .. heehee ...comparing to a Mk 2 i prefer the old design actually, it feels more consistent except the headlight a bit too low ... it's a mid 90's design thing .. the tail light cluster reminds me of Mazda 323 / BMW 3 series / Toyota Corona of the same era ... mechanically they are all about the same .. how much the shops offering for FP / FQ plates?

Fp/Fq are selling ard 3K plus depending on condition

 

but seriously i find the design not as cool as the new ones

[Guest bomerman81]

Originally posted by antonioshabirto@Aug 14 2006, 11:42 PM

Fp/Fq are selling ard 3K plus depending on condition

 

but seriously i find the design not as cool as the new ones

hmm not reali coz the coe of the bike going to b dead if renewed for another 10yrs then will b tha price u have mention if not i got my FS mk2 @ $2700

[antonioshabirto]

Originally posted by bomerman81@Aug 15 2006, 10:34 AM

hmm not reali coz the coe of the bike going to b dead if renewed for another 10yrs then will b tha price u have mention if not i got my FS mk2 @ $2700

well its abt there bro ...... maybe cheaper ... i did not ask in details as i wasnt that keen in the old majesty..... i still prefer the new ones.

 

the reason that stops my from buying the old majesty is the exterior.

 

that makes me hunt for others but i can only op for the newer X8 or X9

[SeanLo]

Originally posted by bomerman81@Aug 15 2006, 10:34 AM

hmm not reali coz the coe of the bike going to b dead if renewed for another 10yrs then will b tha price u have mention if not i got my FS mk2 @ $2700

Mine's about 3K.

[SeanLo]

Originally posted by antonioshabirto@Aug 15 2006, 11:51 AM

well its abt there bro ...... maybe cheaper ... i did not ask in details as i wasnt that keen in the old majesty..... i still prefer the new ones.

 

the reason that stops my from buying the old majesty is the exterior.

 

that makes me hunt for others but i can only op for the newer X8 or X9

This model pai kuah meh?

[unocvin]

.. there's very little in terms of looks between Mk 1 and 2 leh .. .. Mk 1 look a bit droopy due to the square headlight .. maybe more "pai kuah"? ..hahaha ... I got change back from $1500.00 so no complains at all..

 

about the rubber stoppers in the clutch assembly .. how they work? When shoes are in close position it rest on rubber?

[antonioshabirto]

Originally posted by SeanLo@Aug 15 2006, 12:34 PM

This model pai kuah meh?

Isnt that the new yp majesty ??

 

well if you can get that ..... for second hand i sure buy ??

 

the ones that i saw are the squarish headlights.

 

mostly are fp/fq plate

[unocvin]

Square headlights = Mk 1 prob up to FM to FR

Angular headlight = mk 2 FS onwards

 

There's a Mk 3 i think (maybe wrong) ... and now it's replaced by the X-Max .. which doesn't look like any Majesty cause the shield is handlebar mount and not integral with the body but interior space and engine still the same

[SeanLo]

Originally posted by unocvin@Aug 15 2006, 04:43 PM

Square headlights = Mk 1 prob up to FM to FR

Angular headlight = mk 2 FS onwards

 

There's a Mk 3 i think (maybe wrong) ... and now it's replaced by the X-Max .. which doesn't look like any Majesty cause the shield is handlebar mount and not integral with the body but interior space and engine still the same

Let Me add.

 

1995 - YP250, Model 4HC, single cylinder 4stroke, water cooled, SOHC, engine model 4HC.

Square lamp, whole seat lift up, front disc and rear drum, single glove compartment, Max power 21ps@6500rpm, max tor. 2.4kgf*m@5500rpm, Dry weight 158kg, 41km/ltr @ 60km/hr, 12inch wheels, 11lts fuel, 1.4ltrs EO, 1x12v60w and 1x55w light.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/news/1998/11/12/images/majesty.jpg

 

1997(Jap) 1998(Worldwide) - YP250SV, Model 5CG, single disc rear instead of drum brake.

 

1998(Jap) 1999(Worldwide) - YP250ABS as above but fitted with ABS.

 

1999(Jap) 2000(Worldwide) - YP250S, Model 5GM, single cylinder 4stroke, water cooled, SOHC, engine model G312E.

Redesigned fairing, dual lamp, split seat lift up, lower rider back rest, redesigned underseat compartment(can take two FF), front and rear disc, dual glove compartment (one lockable), solid hand brake handle, closable vent built into shield, redesigned passenger hand hold, lowered handle bar, petrol filler has been shifted to the tunnel between the legs. Max power 22ps@7500rpm, max tor. 2.3kgf*m@6000rpm, dry weight 156kg, 41km/ltr @ 60km/hr, 12inch wheels, 12ltrs fuel, 1.2ltrs EO(1.4lts max), 1x12v35w and 2 x 35w light.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/news/1999/08/31/images/majesty1.jpg

 

2002 - YP250A and ABS, Model 5SJ 4stroke, water cooled, SOHC, engine model G312E.

Same engine as 5GM with anti tempering device fitted at key hole, new 5 circle dash with tachometer, new passenger foot rest. Uprated battery from 7amh to 8amh, 1x12v35w and 2x35w light.

http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/local/yama/majesty250_02/pannel2.jpg

http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/local/yama/majesty250_02/key_03.jpg

 

2002 - YP250C same as 5SJ but different handle bar and shield.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/news/2002/03/15/images/majesty_c.jpg

http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/local/yama/majesty_c/handlebar.jpg

 

2004 - YP250G Grand Majesty, model 5VG, 4 stroke single cylinder water cooled, DOHC, engine model G338E

24ps@7500rpm, 2.5kg-m@6500rpm, 14inch front and 13inch rear wheel, 14ltrs fuel, 1.7ltrs EO, Fuel injection, dry weight 194kg, 39km/ltr@60km/hr, Hbeam 1x12v60w and 2x55w light.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/news/2004/01/19/images/g_majesty_main.jpg

 

Sean

[antonioshabirto]

wow..... any lobang for fs n above ??

[unocvin]

Yo sean... good work! Informative! I realised that the Grand model is not as good with fuel though power is up.

 

I can imagine Yamaha's worldwide sale fugures must have recouped their R&D and production cost few times over. Every model differs in cosmectic and some chasis upgrade.

[SeanLo]

Thanks.

 

Did some research on the net before I bought my bike. Some of the info might be wrong as most of the info were from Yamaha Japan and IBIKE HK. No knowledge of Japanese and my cantonese very lau yah.

 

 

Those interested in Majesty should really visit IBIKE HK as they provide a lot of info on the bike.(with some customised bike pics)

 

Sean

[Guest bomerman81]

gd work sean veri informative for those that r considering buying majesty!!!

 

[Guest bomerman81]

anyway sean bro,

 

i will b heading down to botak there do some things if wan can come down n look for me!!!

[SeanLo]

Sorry Bro, work piling up very high and somemore wife just fractured arm, must go home to be good husband and father. Another time perhaps.

 

Sean

[SeanLo]

Originally posted by unocvin@Aug 15 2006, 02:47 PM

.. there's very little in terms of looks between Mk 1 and 2 leh .. .. Mk 1 look a bit droopy due to the square headlight .. maybe more "pai kuah"? ..hahaha ... I got change back from $1500.00 so no complains at all..

 

about the rubber stoppers in the clutch assembly .. how they work? When shoes are in close position it rest on rubber?

Not to sure bro. All I know is that when idling, the shoes wil constanly hit against the stoppers. thats why we always hear scooters having the kook, kook, kook sound when idling. If the stoppers are worn, it will sound as if the shoes are hitting against metal.

 

Sean