GPS Transmitters for Motorcycles

[sinefinibus]

Hi!

 

Would like to seek your opinion on a proposal on having GPS transmitters for motorcycles in Singapore. The purpose of this transmitter is to inform the nearest hospital of your location in the event of a serious accident.

 

Please contribute by posting any comments or suggestions here, as well as filling up a survey (please underline your response) and sending it to [email protected]. Really appreciate your participation & thanks in advance!

Survey Form.doc

[Guest NPNT]

May i know, if u r involved in an accident and the nearest hospital is informed... what will happen?

 

What steps will the hospital take after it has been informed?

[cyben76]

how the hell would the GPS transmitter know that you are in a serious accident?

Anyways, in Singapore, once someone reports an accident and require an ambulance, they will despatch the nearest available ambulance from the nearest hospital or fire station...

 

The ambulance would then convey the injured party to the nearest hospital, regardless of where the ambulance was from in the first place... All our ambulances, fire trucks, etc already have GPS on board to get them to the accident location in the shortest/fastest possible way....

 

There are GPS devices that would send an emergency signal, but the rider need to push the button to get help.. The system is not available locally. I dont see the need for it anyways.. Every road in Singapore has a name, every lamppost has a number, every bridge has a name, every overhead bridge has a number, every bus stop has a number...

 

These GPS devices commonly used in remote areas where it is hard to tell emergency personnel of your exact location...

[sinefinibus]

Apologies for leaving out the details. There'll a distance sensor that'll be placed at the dashboard, directly in front of the rider. It will be wired to the GPS transmitter placed at the safest part of the motorcycle (under the seat).

 

In an event of a serious accident, the rider will be displaced, and the sensor will detect the absence of the rider in its immediate vicinity. The sensor will then prompt the GPS transmitter to inform the nearest hospital (hospitals shall be equipped with GPS receivers) of the exact location of the accident for the quickest rescue response.

 

This proposal arises because of a couple considerations. Firstly, accidents may occur during the wee hours (riders tend to speed during this period), when pedestrians and vehicle users are scarce, especially so at secluded parts of Singapore. Secondly, even if people are around, and assuming they inform the hospital, they may not be able to furnish the exact details of the accident location, which wastes precious time. In any case, the GPS transmitter is present as a constant backup, and seeks to eliminate these issues.

 

In an event of a minor accident in which the rider does not require hospital assistance, there'll actually be a 30 sec lapse before the GPS transmitter sends out the signal. Meanwhile, a beeping device will sound to prompt the rider to switch it off if necessary. This can be easily done through flipping of a toggle switch.

[chuan.z]

if that's the detection method... too risky false alarms! possible cases, including, but not limited to:

 

false positive:

- warming up of bike

- wearing of rain coat when halfway encounter wet weather

- ride to pick up pillion and dismount to retrieve pillion helmet from box

 

false negative:

- accident but rider is in immediate vicinity, e.g pinned under bike

[cyben76]

if that's the detection method... too risky false alarms! possible cases, including, but not limited to:

 

false positive:

- warming up of bike

- wearing of rain coat when halfway encounter wet weather

- ride to pick up pillion and dismount to retrieve pillion helmet from box

 

false negative:

- accident but rider is in immediate vicinity, e.g pinned under bike

 

very true...

 

Would the system be costly to the respective emergency agency to implement such systems? In Singapore i doubt the goverment or respective agency would even bother about such systems...

 

For example, you can many bikers complain about missing cashcards from IU unit and suggest a re-design of ERP system or IU for motorbikes... Till now nothing...

 

Worst is many complain about slippery lane marking on the road... The LTA knows it, the TP also knows it and all the driving scools knows it.. Many other 1st world country they have non-slippery road markings as a standard for road safety reasons.. But for so many many many years nothing been done about it...

[Guest NPNT]

The sensor will then prompt the GPS transmitter to inform the nearest hospital (hospitals shall be equipped with GPS receivers) of the exact location of the accident for the quickest rescue response.

The ambulance comes from fire station. not from hospitals.

[sinefinibus]

With regard to leaving the motorcycle temporarily, all the rider has to do is to switch off the device with a flip of the toggle switch. Should the rider forget to do so, the beeping device will sound as a reminder. As for the rider being pinned down after an accident, I would think it is a very unlikely situation. The main problem I can foresee is the sensor detecting a foreign object instead of the rider. Any comments to that?

 

Can I have a confirmation that ambulances are dispatched from fire stations instead of hospitals?

 

Thank you all for your replies. Will take them into consideration.

[Phang]

Sorry but it sounds like a school project to me.

 

The main purpose of your system is to notify the rescue team in an unlikely situation.

 

One of the unlikely situations is unconscious self skidded rider pinned under the bike at a deserted area and the designer of the system shrugged and said “It is unlikely to happen”

[cyben76]

If TS says its very unlikely that rider unconscious and pinned under a bike.. It is more unlikely that a rider meets with an accident in a deserted area in Singapore. There are systems with GPS implemented in some areas in the world, none of it is automatic. Still requires the user to "push the button" in emergency case.

 

If TS wanna design a system have to put all that into consideration. Activating an ambulance if not free, if not wrong one call $70 even if false alarm...

 

Another prob would be the 30sec delay before the transmitter is activated. In an accident where a bike catches fire, it take less then 30sec for the fire to totally burn thru all the wire and cut of the electrical systems.

 

Even if all the probs are ironed out, i still tink it is very difficult to implement such a system in Singapore.

First thing is the cost to intergrate the system into the emergency services.

Second, how many riders would actually wanna fix it into their bike. Most of riders in SG dont really put much consideration into personal safety. For example, you can only see a small handfull that wear protective riding jacket.

[Silent Hunter]

Hi!

 

Would like to seek your opinion on a proposal on having GPS transmitters for motorcycles in Singapore. The purpose of this transmitter is to inform the nearest hospital of your location in the event of a serious accident.

 

Please contribute by posting any comments or suggestions here, as well as filling up a survey (please underline your response) and sending it to [email protected]. Really appreciate your participation & thanks in advance!

 

 

I would actually be interested in a GPS device that will activate and track the bike if it gets stolen.

 

And I wouldn't mind paying $100-$200 for it.

 

There are already such devices available, however, they have a month subscription charge and cost around $500.

 

So it doesn't makes sense economically to have it installed in a $3,000 class 2B Bike.

 

But if you can come up with 1 that doesn't have a monthly fee, and is around $150, I won't mind getting 1 from you.

[cyben76]

A normal GPS already cost $120-$300, if they were to intergrate it for bike theft prevention, i doubt you can get it at $150

[tanchunxun]

i dont mind getting 1 also if the price is cheap.. count me in! =)

[kenshi1777]

500 per month?? where to get this service?

[Silent Hunter]

$500 every month, 1 year = $6,000

Plus the cost of the device & the installation ... ...

Can buy a 2nd hand class 2A bike liao.