Charged for Careless Driving

[xb84]

received a notice to attend court for

 

(ACCDT)CARELESS DRIVING UNDER RULE 29 ROAD TRAFFIC RULES.

 

after accident involving a jaywalker.

 

 

 

 

 

 

i'm worrying about the outcome so would like your input on the matter.

 

thanks.

[Guest Nick_li]

dude... maybe u can tell us wat happened??? then maybe we can give u better advice...

[xb84]

Originally posted by Nick_li@Aug 12 2006, 10:38 AM

dude... maybe u can tell us wat happened??? then maybe we can give u better advice...

riding on straight road.

then jaywalker chiong out.

then hit jaywalker and crash.

went ubi make report since nov'05.

just received letter.

[Guest Nick_li]

i think you juz tell them the truth ... but were u travelling fast???

 

if no... then tell them the truth that u weren't even speeding... then this jay walker juz dash out from no where didn't even check the road... when u saw him was already too late... hard braking also no use... wanna 'siam' also too late...

 

but dude... if u riding sports bike... dun think they'll believe u... there seems to be a stereo-type abt ppl who ride sports bike. TP will have the thinking that all sports bike will ride fast...

 

personally have been wrongly charged by TP for speeding along mandai rd too... was on the left lane with a lorry dashing pass me... then TP waved for me to stop. despite stopping less then 5M away from him, he can even say something like," maybe u slow down already." mind u i didn't even see the TP till he waved at me...

 

anyways... my case still appealling... u dun need to worry... juz tell them the truth... justice will prevail... hopefully...

[three]

Originally posted by onefour02@Aug 12 2006, 10:04 AM

received a notice to attend court for

 

(ACCDT)CARELESS DRIVING UNDER RULE 29 ROAD TRAFFIC RULES.

 

after accident involving a jaywalker.

 

 

 

 

 

 

i'm worrying about the outcome so would like your input on the matter.

 

thanks.

Don't worry to much. Just hope and pray that everything will turn out fine.

 

My friend is even worse off that you. He hit a pedestrian who died 2 hours later last April near buona vista. Apparently, the guy was jaywalking too. Case still under investigation.

[xb84]

forgot to include going to be charged 6 pts for careless driving and no fine (yet).

 

what i hoping is the court case is just for the fine amt and not anything more.

 

sian.

[archenemy]

 

lucky its careless...not reckless...

[RadBaron]

Anyway, in a case like this, the jaywalker is definitley at fault and will take some of the blame. Jaywalking is an offence and pedastrians are only allowed to cross at marked crossings and are supposed to OBEY the lights. Crossing at any other place constitutes an offence. (Jaywalker).

 

 

Hope this makes you feel better.

[xb84]

Originally posted by Ra|dBaron@Aug 12 2006, 09:07 PM

Anyway, in a case like this, the jaywalker is definitley at fault and will take some of the blame. Jaywalking is an offence and pedastrians are only allowed to cross at marked crossings and are supposed to OBEY the lights. Crossing at any other place constitutes an offence. (Jaywalker).

 

 

Hope this makes you feel better.

driver still has more responsibility.. hai..

 

6 pts (and if fine $) i accept it..

 

why need to go court?

 

sian.

[ellamcoy]

Hope they pratice fairness dude, gd luck

[ah_neng]

there are also cases where a driver hit the jaywalker then she died... the driver was given a banned from driving for dunno how long.. the case happened at holland.. think some of u might have heard of this before.. usually in this kind of cases, the rider or driver are on the losing end.. unless got a third party witnese to proof that u are innocent

[Strong Eagle]

Dude, you probably won't like my reply but unless the jay walker darted out from between parked cars and was not visible at all, you are at fault. You were not practicing defensive driving. What if it had been a car that just "chiong out"? You'd be squashed.

 

Your job while riding is SIPDE

 

Scan

Identify

Plan

Decide

Execute

 

Keeps you from getting hit and keeps you from running over things that shouldn't get run over.

[xb84]

Originally posted by Strong Eagle@Aug 13 2006, 09:56 PM

Dude, you probably won't like my reply but unless the jay walker darted out from between parked cars and was not visible at all, you are at fault. You were not practicing defensive driving. What if it had been a car that just "chiong out"? You'd be squashed.

 

Your job while riding is SIPDE

 

Scan

Identify

Plan

Decide

Execute

 

Keeps you from getting hit and keeps you from running over things that shouldn't get run over.

true.

 

still worried abt the seriousness of hitting somone. hai.

[swirlacer]

oh my...its veri bad that the govt has a defensive riding course available and that justifies us riders being responsible when jay walkers cross into our paths.so why dun they have a defensive jay walking course to pedestrians?simply bu11 $hit.peds shld noe the complications the moment they jay walk.sighz. but still i will really practise defensive riding whenever i pass by school zones.children are exceptions to my ridiculous comments.too innocent to noe its wrong to jay walk.i think.

 

oh well,do update us one the outcome manz...

[tbteng]

Hate to say this but if you kiss a human with your bike. Whether the human wrong or not, 80% of the time, you will be at fault. During court, they may suspend your licence for 1 yr and if its 1 yr, you will have to go "back to the drawing board" again. Speaking from personal experience.

[sheep]

Well.. hope u haven't hit an ang mo...

The penalties seems to be more harsh when u hit an ang mo.

Reminds of a past case when the driver kenna damn jialat when an ang mo jaywalked and gotten killed despite a red man blaring in his face.

[EvilGixxer]

for your courtcase bro, although most prolly u will be found guilty or share at least 70% fault of the accident.

[Strong Eagle]

Originally posted by BaaBaa Black Sheep@Aug 16 2006, 09:17 PM

Well.. hope u haven't hit an ang mo...

The penalties seems to be more harsh when u hit an ang mo.

Reminds of a past case when the driver kenna damn jialat when an ang mo jaywalked and gotten killed despite a red man blaring in his face.

I have a hard time believing this one. In Vietnam, yes. In Singapore... well, I think the law is applied very evenly... why would the value of life of a person be dependent upon skin color?

 

Would the ruling have been different if an Indian under the same circumstances?

 

The fundamental fact is that a great deal of Singapore drivers refuse to acknowledge the fact that a pedestrian is in a far weaker position that a 2000 kg cage, and they need to pound on cagers and bikers so they understand that pedestrians are always at a disadvantage.

[xb84]

Originally posted by tbteng@Aug 16 2006, 05:31 PM

Hate to say this but if you kiss a human with your bike. Whether the human wrong or not, 80% of the time, you will be at fault. During court, they may suspend your licence for 1 yr and if its 1 yr, you will have to go "back to the drawing board" again. Speaking from personal experience.

pls share details on ur experience

[lokeks]

one interesting fact i want to make.

 

all motorist needs a licence to drive/ride, right?

I mean we are authorise to operate a machine on the road, and bound by the rules of the road, right?

but all pedestrains dont need a license to walk, right?

[ronald814]

tbteng Posted on Aug 16 2006, 05:31 PM

Hate to say this but if you kiss a human with your bike. Whether the human wrong or not, 80% of the time, you will be at fault. During court, they may suspend your licence for 1 yr and if its 1 yr, you will have to go "back to the drawing board" again. Speaking from personal experience.

 

Ya agreed with above, as long as U kiss a human who is not driving or riding, 80% of the fault will be with U for not looking out, I know a rider who was jailed for 1 wk for riding a Yamaha sportbike and breaking an old lady's leg when it was her who dash across the zebra crossing from the other end of the road. It was a few years ago. I reckon that sportsbike rider were being punished more severly as they are deem more dangerous. If you are sportsbike rider, pray hard the jaywalker does not have severe injury.

[xb84]

was riding s4 at that point.

 

sent in appeal. case under investigation.

[xb84]

Originally posted by tbteng@Aug 16 2006, 05:26 PM

Hate to say this but if you kiss a human with your bike. Whether the human wrong or not, 80% of the time, you will be at fault. During court, they may suspend your licence for 1 yr and if its 1 yr, you will have to go "back to the drawing board" again. Speaking from personal experience.

what u said is very true.

 

my case is over.

$800 + disqualified for 3mths due to injury to pedestrain (13days hospitalisation).

 

i will be more careful in future.

[168kmh]

congrates. , , lets pray that others will learn this lessons. But care to share what kind of punishment does the jaywalker gets( except 13 hospital ) ? I dun think its fair.

[compfused]

Life's never fair..Bangla wokers are most prone to getting hit..Why? You can spot them from a few metres away ..They look like they wanna cross but as you slow down..They do not cros..Not until you are very near to them they will start dashing across the road..I've experienced too much of this that everytime I see a bangla worker at the side of the road I slow down so much so almost like road hogging..But again safety first..