Do you gear up when riding?

[Seastorm]

I have the Komine jeans, and I've tried the Draggin Jeans before. Would have to say that I prefer Komine, cos it has knee armour (removable). On hot days your knee will get sweaty, but that's a small trade-off for safety, and also the knee armour is quite unnoticable...unless I mention it, people usually don't know that I'm wearing them. Brought the Komine at Motoworld 2 months back for $100 if I remember correctly

 

Can I ask, other then the armour of the jeans, Is draggin or Komine jeans made from different material? Coz I noticed that when sliding on the tarmac, the jeans material of ordinary jeans gave way as well.

[Lucky21]

any decent flip up full face to recommend then?

 

Hi bro,

 

Just to share with you. Recently I had bought a RJays Tour-Tec, plain black for my gf at LAB for $160. I am also looking for a fullface and most prob will get the same one when I have the $$$ since it has the PSB and Australia certified sticker.

 

For your budget of $300++, I think can even get a better and nicer 1.

[soma]

Can I ask, other then the armour of the jeans, Is draggin or Komine jeans made from different material? Coz I noticed that when sliding on the tarmac, the jeans material of ordinary jeans gave way as well.

 

Draggin Jeans have kevlar in the knees and hip area, but no armour. Komine jeans also have some abrasion resistant material (don't think its kevlar) in the same areas. Overall I feel that Komine jeans is better fitting and more protective

[soma]

But I got no box on my bike. You can imagine how troublesome it is for me just to bring along jacket, gloves and helmet. I even bring my bike cover to cover up my bike. But no choice

 

I'll be waiting!

 

I always carry a haversack with me to put my jacket and gloves. FF helmet no choice carry by hand, but its not so bad

[2_wheeler]

A pair of roller blade knee guard would be able to save your knee from a fall. Just look at the pictures here….

 

http://image63.webshots.com/563/5/47/77/2295547770103036128LwKakl_fs.jpg

 

http://image74.webshots.com/74/0/22/69/2799022690103036128PFtttc_fs.jpg

[arthur_chan]

wow u all make me look like my gear is nothing. i only wear half face n cotton jacket. perhaps can organize a get together sometime to share tips on gears, thinking of upgrading my gears.

[lacrimosae]

Seastorm,

 

Draggin Jeans have Kevlar woven into the material over the knees, hips and butt area, which makes it durable against friction. Any other materials, with "good abrasion resistance" is merely marketing speak for 'not as good as Kevlar'.

 

yohji,

 

Guess what, you're not alone! I take bus or cab whenever I can too! hahahaha....

 

Actually I think in-line skating knee guards are pretty good too, as long as they are worn inside the jeans, in direct contact with your skin, not over the jeans. Having some protection is better than zero.

 

If I'm not wrong, if you end up sliding on the road, Kevlar will stay intact but even the 'good abrasion resistance' materials will rip or melt due to the friction.

 

Draggin Jeans has optional knee armour and hip paddings which must be purchased separately (thus upping the costs). The plus side is Draggin Jeans knee armour have straps which secure them to your legs inside the jeans, so during a fall, they stay in place. Armoured jeans without internal straps may not offer protection as good as those with straps because the armour may shift away from the critical points during impact.

 

Still, I just might end up with a Komine due to cost difference. Almost S$250 difference.

[Lucky21]

Hi Guys,

 

I have a qns, is badly scratched roller blade elbow and knee guards still reliable or its better to get new set? My elbow and knee guard from the driving sch are quite badly scratch as I always buang in sch.

[Bay]

Seastorm,

 

Draggin Jeans have Kevlar woven into the material over the knees, hips and butt area, which makes it durable against friction. Any other materials, with "good abrasion resistance" is merely marketing speak for 'not as good as Kevlar'.

 

yohji,

 

Guess what, you're not alone! I take bus or cab whenever I can too! hahahaha....

 

Actually I think in-line skating knee guards are pretty good too, as long as they are worn inside the jeans, in direct contact with your skin, not over the jeans. Having some protection is better than zero.

 

If I'm not wrong, if you end up sliding on the road, Kevlar will stay intact but even the 'good abrasion resistance' materials will rip or melt due to the friction.

 

Draggin Jeans has optional knee armour and hip paddings which must be purchased separately (thus upping the costs). The plus side is Draggin Jeans knee armour have straps which secure them to your legs inside the jeans, so during a fall, they stay in place. Armoured jeans without internal straps may not offer protection as good as those with straps because the armour may shift away from the critical points during impact.

 

Still, I just might end up with a Komine due to cost difference. Almost S$250 difference.

 

So komine jeans are cheaper? Any idea where to get komine and draggin jeans?

[Seastorm]

So komine jeans are cheaper? Any idea where to get komine and draggin jeans?

 

Moto world.

[Seastorm]

Seastorm,

 

Draggin Jeans have Kevlar woven into the material over the knees, hips and butt area, which makes it durable against friction. Any other materials, with "good abrasion resistance" is merely marketing speak for 'not as good as Kevlar'.

 

yohji,

 

Guess what, you're not alone! I take bus or cab whenever I can too! hahahaha....

 

Actually I think in-line skating knee guards are pretty good too, as long as they are worn inside the jeans, in direct contact with your skin, not over the jeans. Having some protection is better than zero.

 

If I'm not wrong, if you end up sliding on the road, Kevlar will stay intact but even the 'good abrasion resistance' materials will rip or melt due to the friction.

 

Draggin Jeans has optional knee armour and hip paddings which must be purchased separately (thus upping the costs). The plus side is Draggin Jeans knee armour have straps which secure them to your legs inside the jeans, so during a fall, they stay in place. Armoured jeans without internal straps may not offer protection as good as those with straps because the armour may shift away from the critical points during impact.

 

Still, I just might end up with a Komine due to cost difference. Almost S$250 difference.

I also take the bus and mrt sometimes. But mostly coz the destination has very bad parking.

[arthur_chan]

Hi Guys,

 

I have a qns, is badly scratched roller blade elbow and knee guards still reliable or its better to get new set? My elbow and knee guard from the driving sch are quite badly scratch as I always buang in sch.

 

if scratches, still can use, but if cracks, it's not reliable. u hv to differentiate if it's a crack or scratch, but since u mentioned it's buang many times, i guess it's not reliable.

[Bay]

Moto world.

 

Both the jeans will be able to get from motoworld? Cos i heard someone said both jeans different locations..

[lacrimosae]

Komine from Motoworld.

 

Draggin Jeans order from their website online. Don't forget to order the armour and paddings, and factor in shipping costs.

[yohji]

I guess most of us who wear the proper gears will choose to take bus when we go shopping centres, sigh, what's the point of having a bike Too troublesome to lug all that around. Unless your bike looks good with side boxes (like sports tourers or cruisers). I used to have side panniers on my Monster but I don't think they will look nice on my Street Triple. So I guess why so many pple don't wear proper gear.

 

I think Draggin Jeans are made in Australia and Komine is a Japanese brand. Actually $100 for the Komine sounds reasonable. Normal jeans already cost close to that and they don't come with extra protection like Komine. But I have yet to see how well Komine jeans can protect our 'S'. Draggin jeans has some videos which they test their jeans.

 

BTW I found this backpack which lets us carry our helmets: http://www.komine.ac/products.php?function=detail&product_id=423&category_id=7 Not a bad idea hehe.

[lacrimosae]

I guess most of us who wear the proper gears will choose to take bus when we go shopping centres, sigh, what's the point of having a bike Too troublesome to lug all that around. Unless your bike looks good with side boxes (like sports tourers or cruisers). I used to have side panniers on my Monster but I don't think they will look nice on my Street Triple. So I guess why so many pple don't wear proper gear.

 

I think Draggin Jeans are made in Australia and Komine is a Japanese brand. Actually $100 for the Komine sounds reasonable. Normal jeans already cost close to that and they don't come with extra protection like Komine. But I have yet to see how well Komine jeans can protect our 'S'. Draggin jeans has some videos which they test their jeans.

 

BTW I found this backpack which lets us carry our helmets: http://www.komine.ac/products.php?function=detail&product_id=423&category_id=7 Not a bad idea hehe.

 

Alamak! I like it but I just purchased an Ortlieb D.Fender rucksack! I wonder if they only sell the helmet carrying attachment.

 

Thanks for sharing, yohji. Every time I read your posts, I have the imagery of my wallet getting thinner playing in my head. haha

[barefoot]

buay tahan already, my next week or tml getting top box already haha . . then next week will take alook at the komine jeans, then boots liao

[nacl]

any decent flip up full face to recommend then?

 

flip up helmets...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/nolan-n103/

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/hjc/sy-max-II/

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/caberg-trip/

 

full face...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/hjc/fs-15/

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/ogk-ff-5/

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/arai-profile/

 

the HJC FS-15 is known as FG-15 here.

the Arai Profile could be out of budget ($500+), but no harm trying it out.

 

flip ups have the disadvantage of being physically larger n heavier. wind noise is higher, too.

 

of course there r other makes n models... just some here to get u started on shopping! Use SNELL certification as a base requirement for protective qualities. the new SHARP rating is useful, too.

 

a more expensive helmet doesn't necessarily mean greater protection. Usually the extra goes into fit n finish. for eg, i find the arai very comfortable for me, along with its easy to wash liner.

[firefox87]

BTW I found this backpack which lets us carry our helmets: http://www.komine.ac/products.php?function=detail&product_id=423&category_id=7 Not a bad idea hehe.

 

Alamak! I like it but I just purchased an Ortlieb D.Fender rucksack! I wonder if they only sell the helmet carrying attachment.

wahlau.. the komine bag looks much nicer than my newly bought Rjays backpack. oh well.. at least both serve the same function.

 

 

flip up helmets...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/nolan-n103/

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/hjc/sy-max-II/

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/caberg-trip/

 

full face...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/hjc/fs-15/

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/ogk-ff-5/

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/arai-profile/

 

the HJC FS-15 is known as FG-15 here.

the Arai Profile could be out of budget ($500+), but no harm trying it out.

 

flip ups have the disadvantage of being physically larger n heavier. wind noise is higher, too.

 

of course there r other makes n models... just some here to get u started on shopping! Use SNELL certification as a base requirement for protective qualities. the new SHARP rating is useful, too.

 

a more expensive helmet doesn't necessarily mean greater protection. Usually the extra goes into fit n finish. for eg, i find the arai very comfortable for me, along with its easy to wash liner.

thanks for the links.. a bit too late tho. cos i just bought AGV airtech yesterday. the only reason i bought is cos of its weight, comfy, brand and importantly, good price!!

 

Hi bro,

Just to share with you. Recently I had bought a RJays Tour-Tec, plain black for my gf at LAB for $160. I am also looking for a fullface and most prob will get the same one when I have the $$$ since it has the PSB and Australia certified sticker.

For your budget of $300++, I think can even get a better and nicer 1.

was looking into agv titech, but too expensive. airtech is good and light enough for me.

and arai is like so overrated where the cheapest one is still expensive.

[Bay]

was looking into agv titech, but too expensive. airtech is good and light enough for me.

and arai is like so overrated where the cheapest one is still expensive.

 

Actually i find that the best brand in terms of the most worth it, guess Rjays is still the best. Cheap but good!

[Seastorm]

wahlau.. the komine bag looks much nicer than my newly bought Rjays backpack. oh well.. at least both serve the same function.

 

 

 

thanks for the links.. a bit too late tho. cos i just bought AGV airtech yesterday. the only reason i bought is cos of its weight, comfy, brand and importantly, good price!!

 

 

was looking into agv titech, but too expensive. airtech is good and light enough for me.

and arai is like so overrated where the cheapest one is still expensive.

 

But do you notice, the guys that survive quite bad accidents usually wrote that the helmet saved their lives and it's usually an Arai?

 

As for helmet bags, can also try a H-pack The last time I heard it was an estimated $88

http://www.adventureonwheels-sg.com/images/products/191a.JPG

[Orleng]

Decently-priced HJC FG15 as sodium chloride mentioned cost me only 220bucks for matte black at motoworld, all i can say is, comfy as heck, the inner liner is some silky-type material and the breathguard that comes along keeps the whole thing fog-free most days. ECE certified.

 

As for draggin jeans,

 

http://fullthrottlexessories.com.au/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=260&zenid=e7d5444521c7fd9d9e6cb2e52c4f1def

 

oilskins, with the AUD exchange rate, it's pretty ruddy cheap. Shipped to friend in oz, so save on shipping. Abit warm in the butt area, cuz of the kevlar there, have to stand up once in awhile to air-cool, heh heh.

 

Only hassle is the washing instructions state : cannot expose the kevlar to sun, e.g. no sunning inside-out. No washing with detergent of ANY sort and no hot water wash. e.g. only cold water handwash. so for the neat-freaks, this might be a bugbear. maybe applicable only to oilskins cuz of the water-resistant material. Good for light showers, outside of jeans is wet/damp, but inside, nice n toasty warm.

[Bay]

Decently-priced HJC FG15 as sodium chloride mentioned cost me only 220bucks for matte black at motoworld, all i can say is, comfy as heck, the inner liner is some silky-type material and the breathguard that comes along keeps the whole thing fog-free most days. ECE certified.

 

As for draggin jeans,

 

http://fullthrottlexessories.com.au/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=260&zenid=e7d5444521c7fd9d9e6cb2e52c4f1def

 

oilskins, with the AUD exchange rate, it's pretty ruddy cheap. Shipped to friend in oz, so save on shipping. Abit warm in the butt area, cuz of the kevlar there, have to stand up once in awhile to air-cool, heh heh.

 

Only hassle is the washing instructions state : cannot expose the kevlar to sun, e.g. no sunning inside-out. No washing with detergent of ANY sort and no hot water wash. e.g. only cold water handwash. so for the neat-freaks, this might be a bug bear. maybe applicable only to oilskins cuz of the water-resistant material. Good for light showers, outside of jeans is wet/damp, but inside, nice n toasty warm.

 

Woah, like that want to wash like very difficult leh.. How about komine? Will it be easier when washing? As in can just dump in washing machine?

[Sâundless]

today on the way back home. Saw a Superman on bike.

 

Wear Full-face, armour jacket(i think is Rjay de) glove.... then wear shorts and flip-flop.

[firefox87]

Actually i find that the best brand in terms of the most worth it, guess Rjays is still the best. Cheap but good!

yeah... agree with you. cheap and good AND heavy!!

 

But do you notice, the guys that survive quite bad accidents usually wrote that the helmet saved their lives and it's usually an Arai?

 

As for helmet bags, can also try a H-pack The last time I heard it was an estimated $88

http://www.adventureonwheels-sg.com/images/products/191a.JPG

ok... next time i'm in a bad accident, i'll make sure i'll say my AGV helmet saves me! lol.. anyway, is AGV that inferior as compared to Arai?

 

 

today on the way back home. Saw a Superman on bike.

 

Wear Full-face, armour jacket(i think is Rjay de) glove.... then wear shorts and flip-flop.

I think his mirror is only from waist up la. Anyway, why bother wearing armour jacket when wear shorts? maybe, he's heading to the beach?