Aprilia Riders

[dDtim]

You mean the direct Plug & Play K&N Panel filter for our bike's stock airbox?

 

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Yeah, it's actually an entire 2m x 5m balcony full. On shelves to the ceiling.

 

 

 

Still a long way from complete, but thanks. No one's bike looks lame. You must appreciate how your own bike looks. I like how my bike looks, but some have told me my bike looks ugly, it being half carbon and all. To each his own.

 

 

 

Yes, socket wrenches make work a lot faster. But I still haven't got down to getting them. Maybe we can have DIY at your place after you get a set?

 

 

 

You should have seen my bike before the makeover. Looks like a rat bike that survived the apocalypse!

 

I agree. That's why I installed an external electrical water pump which is not dependent on engine rpm to move coolant. It's maximum flow all the time. Keeps my temperature constantly cool even in jams.

 

Another pro is that it doesn't rob the engine of horses to push the coolant around the engine.

 

 

 

Did you change the jets or needle clip position?

 

If not, you might have an air leak in the manifold or carb. Check the rubber manifolds to make sure they are tight (but not too tight that the manifolds crack from strain).

 

 

 

Hard to tell what's going on here but should be the clutch position screw that needs adjustment. Sorry I do apologise I forgot to try out your bike to find out what's wrong with it.

 

Which is why I encourage a ride together so that I can help out with any problems after the DIY, instead of you guys going home and having the problems spring up on you just before you're in the car park.

 

 

 

My throttle response on my gf's bike today is already pretty sluggish, due to the restriction on the airbox. Without the panel filter, it revs like a 600cc bike. Needle spins up and drops down so fast you'd miss it if you blinked.

 

And also because I'm running 2T premixed in the fuel tank. Keeps the 2T:fuel ratio constant throughout all rev range and throttle position, making it rev-happy, low smoke, and safely lubricated. (Less horses for less gear drives to run, like coolant n oil pumps)

 

Removes 6 liabilities from the lube equation (and gives you peace of mind):

1. Failure of oil pump

2. Failure of oil pump gear

3. Failure of Low Level Oil Warning Sensor

4. Failure of Low Level Oil Warning Light

5. Failure of oil delivery system: hoses, connectors

6. Clogging of oil filter at bottom of oil tank

 

Anyway, back to the panel filter... It's a good compromise between having the power of a high flow pod filter, while keeping the resonance and low end torque and tuneability of the stock airbox.

 

Responsiveness is not as crisp and good as running open airbox, but at least I know I wont have a lizard going through my piston.

 

 

 

Yeah, I'll try to squeeze the best deal cos I need another for my own bike.

 

I can also help with the fitting of the K&N panel filters for you.

 

I'll have good number of days off next week, probably meet up with ashraf to tackle my CDI for the flat spot problem.

 

Most probably my needle clip position came off when I was handling it.

 

The water cooling system seems sweet, did you DIY? Costs?

 

Anyways, since I have some free time would like to play with my stock carb just a little, head down to weda to get some main jets sizes 132 and 135. Anyone already has these sizes?

[suf]

Hi guys..

 

I miss this forum!! Sorry missed the previous outing.. damn..

 

Here's a breakdown of servicing and stuff for reference @ Ah Seng.

 

Servicing - $45

Labour - $60 (Well i did some myself to speed up the process, [fixing starter motor PJME + air horn])

Valve cable - $25

Air Horn Stebel - $20 (Motoworld)

Maxima GearOil - $35

Battery - $50

and miscellaneous.

 

Anyway, saw a full Red RS125 at woodlands yesterday near woodlands gym and parked just beside. Bike had tank bra of a 'lusty angelic white chick'. Dropping by to say hi if you see this.

 

Priller, dun eat too much ah.. Save up hehe..

 

Your 'R6' paintwork RS125 mate.

[priller07]

 

Priller, dun eat too much ah.. Save up hehe..

 

 

Dude, i need the mass alrdy! Still so skinny. Wanna build up my muscles now. Worried my tummy will form one huge island. Haha!

 

Anyway hope to see u soon for coffee. Ur bike running well now i assume.

[seraphx]

Hi all..nice meeting you guys on friday night. Apologise to my friendless type of person but will try to improve in the future :-)

As per request from the Boss, here is the clip on board for your view

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Do share your experience as I'm new in track and need more to learn....

Ride safe guys and njoy the clip...

 

Hello Sauji,

 

hope you're having fun with 6045.. =p

 

Any chance you're going to put a RSV engine in that thing? =p

[lacrimosae]

DIY 26 MAR 1100-1600hrs

 

Blk 21 Joo Seng Road Void Deck (Postal 360021)

 

Due to the heat from the town council we received yesterday, I've decided to limit the number of people attending DIY to 3 PAX. Based on first come first serve basis now.

 

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2.

3.

 

On a side note, can we have a show of hands on who's interested to get the K&N plug&play panel filter for the stock airbox?

 

1. Lawrence

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3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

 

And also, anyone interested to buy some of my used parts:

 

1. Braking wavey front disc $180 or swap with new model disc rotor (great for hard braking at high speeds but gf doesn't like the judder at low speed braking)

2. Jim Lomas stainless steel exhaust $400 (purchased for $980); full system including mounts and end can

3. Front fork pre-2006 model $180

 

For DIY Chain oiler please make an appointment for installation...

[seraphx]

Originally Posted by dDtim

7. Bike has poor clutch response, I don't know how to explain it well, but basically the clutch responds appropriately only at the friction point and full release, anything in between will kill my power. makes my bike difficult to overcome the initial inertia when moving from halt. Can anyone suggest the possible reasons?

 

Great Thanks to Lawrance, Max, Felix, Chris and Vik, each taught me abit and I felt comfortable.

 

Hard to tell what's going on here but should be the clutch position screw that needs adjustment. Sorry I do apologise I forgot to try out your bike to find out what's wrong with it.

 

Which is why I encourage a ride together so that I can help out with any problems after the DIY, instead of you guys going home and having the problems spring up on you just before you're in the car park.

 

>> Or.. it could simply be your riding technique. Aprilia's are a little tall on the gearing. Biting point should not give you any trouble. And as you are unconciously aware that you've fully engaged your clutch, you may be throttling more. Do try to give the throttle a little more twist, hold for a second longer on the clutch biting point, and let us know if you're still experiencing the powerlessness at other clutch release positions..

[seraphx]

How come in my nearly 6 years of riding I never come across situations like this before? I envy you guys leh..

 

Neither have I.. Coz I tended to lose people in the next available corner even before they manage to catch up to me.. Wahahahahahahaha!

 

Now it's a little different on the Ducati. They tend to stop beside me, and ask if I'm going to sell my bike.. =p

[omnislash_86]

DIY 26 MAR 1100-1600hrs

 

Blk 21 Joo Seng Road Void Deck (Postal 360021)

 

Due to the heat from the town council we received yesterday, I've decided to limit the number of people attending DIY to 3 PAX. Based on first come first serve basis now.

 

1.

2.

3.

 

On a side note, can we have a show of hands on who's interested to get the K&N plug&play panel filter for the stock airbox?

 

1. Lawrence

2. Septiady

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

 

And also, anyone interested to buy some of my used parts:

 

1. Braking wavey front disc $180 or swap with new model disc rotor (great for hard braking at high speeds but gf doesn't like the judder at low speed braking)

2. Jim Lomas stainless steel exhaust $400 (purchased for $980); full system including mounts and end can

3. Front fork pre-2006 model $180

 

For DIY Chain oiler please make an appointment for installation...

[Sub Zero]

Hi guys. I'm the red 08 rs who joined you guys at the dam/jalan kayu on saturday. Shoutout to Sub Zero, I've created an account already. Not just a cyber stalker anymore.

 

Cheers!

 

PS I see alot of "My helmet costs more than your bike" going around. I should charge a fee for that!

 

Hope to see you more often dude. Along with your buddy Ian!

 

And yes, your quote was classic. I'm looking forward to using it myself 1 day.

[dDtim]

Originally Posted by dDtim

7. Bike has poor clutch response, I don't know how to explain it well, but basically the clutch responds appropriately only at the friction point and full release, anything in between will kill my power. makes my bike difficult to overcome the initial inertia when moving from halt. Can anyone suggest the possible reasons?

 

Great Thanks to Lawrance, Max, Felix, Chris and Vik, each taught me abit and I felt comfortable.

 

Hard to tell what's going on here but should be the clutch position screw that needs adjustment. Sorry I do apologise I forgot to try out your bike to find out what's wrong with it.

 

Which is why I encourage a ride together so that I can help out with any problems after the DIY, instead of you guys going home and having the problems spring up on you just before you're in the car park.

 

>> Or.. it could simply be your riding technique. Aprilia's are a little tall on the gearing. Biting point should not give you any trouble. And as you are unconciously aware that you've fully engaged your clutch, you may be throttling more. Do try to give the throttle a little more twist, hold for a second longer on the clutch biting point, and let us know if you're still experiencing the powerlessness at other clutch release positions..

 

I've tried other aprilias and many have tried my bike both ways could feel that my clutch has a problem.

[Sub Zero]

Anyways a little feedback on today's DIY, everyone was helpful walking by to check me out once in awhile to see if I was doing alright. I honestly was confused and inhaling petroleum fumes didn't help. But definitely built up good confidence on removing my carb, know how it sits in now. Gonna remove it again myself to recap what goes where, probably mess with some jets this time.

Managed to meet many fellow riders, happened to bump into my aunt's store, an old colleague, Andrew.

Didn't work fast enough though, really could have learnt more if I was more familiar and due to the sudden time constraint we encountered.

 

Observations of the day:

 

1. A luggage couldn't fit the number of spares, tools, parts Lawrance has.

 

2. One hell of a bike Lawrance. Made my bike look lame.

 

3. I have not the right amount of tools - need a box of sockets and adapters, makes work easier and faster.

 

4. Many of our bikes have sad external appearances

 

5. Riding in a jam sucks.

 

6. My bike is suffering from severe leanness now, the mixture leans out so bad, the flat spot at the 5-6k mark just quadrupled itself into a disastrous state. Think the needle position is haywire or my airbox isn't sitting as tightly as it should.

 

7. Bike has poor clutch response, I don't know how to explain it well, but basically the clutch responds appropriately only at the friction point and full release, anything in between will kill my power. makes my bike difficult to overcome the initial inertia when moving from halt. Can anyone suggest the possible reasons?

 

Great Thanks to Lawrance, Max, Felix, Chris and Vik, each taught me abit and I felt comfortable.

 

I do regret that I could not put my full attention into today's session; had some issues going on so my phone was constantly going off and was badly distracted.

 

I trust myself to join the next DIY a little more knowledgable, better equipped and manage myself in good time.

 

Ashraf do update us about your bike's condition - I feel for you although I was poking most of the time really.

 

Anyways Lawrance, do feedback on the K&N panel filter you were testing - did it affect the responsiveness? Your throttle is about 2-3 times more responsive than mine, what were the modifications that contributed to that? Share if you don't mind.

 

Hey Tim,

 

I doubt I helped much, I was just walking around trying to get myself dry.

 

Regarding your setting, did you adjust your air/fuel screw when you took out your carb?

 

The thing is, it's not that tough to remove your carb, wash it and fix it back. But most of us dont know how to actually tune it by listening to the engine etc.

Which is why I never do my carb setting by myself, but prefer to get my mechanic to do it for me according to my wishes.

 

In any case, if you're looking for a really smooth throttle, just go PREMIX! Simple mechanical reason. Your throttle pulls both the throttle cable and 2T cable. But removing the 2T cable while going premix, you just pull on one cable, thus the easier pull and illusion that the bike is faster. Personally, I'd go premix too if I didnt have such a heavy mileage to run. I hate the thought of topping up the 2T every 2 days when i pump petrol!

 

Also, i recommend you give WEDA a call before you head down. Last I checked there were no 132, and 135 main jets.

 

The water cooling system is something advertised by Teck Thye. Personally I've not tried it, but i dont think it's a necessary mod. Our RS125 arent that hot, unless you're running a Polini. And it just adds extra weight to the bike, and draws more battery power. I think it's about 200plus.

[Sub Zero]

Nice, we can perhaps gather a substantial number so Lawrance can order 10 pieces like he suggested.

 

I think you guys need to establish a baseline setting for your bike before trying these K&N filters. What works on one bike, might not neccessarily work on all bikes!

 

To me, I just feel you either run an empty airbox or slap on a K&N pod filter. Doing something in between doesnt mean you get the best of both worlds. While the pod filter is not that easy to tune, it is very very possible.

 

Using Sharul, and Eddy's bike as a benchmark, you cant go wrong. Their bikes are pumping out power all the way from the low end to the top, and they're using the K&N pod filters. Hardly or almost no flatspot. Close to perfection, but then again these 2 guys are perfectionists! They're still not satisfied and looking to better it. I'm envious!

 

Lawrence,

 

Not sure if you remember edmund, but he was running on a K&N panel filter(from a bandit 400) in his airbox with the top off. Produced a really bassy and nice sound. Maybe you can try this setting as well. What's the purpose of the airbox top and snorkel when you have the panel filter in already? Just wondering.

 

Whatever the case, the stock filter sucks big time. I'd advise anyone to remove it ASAP before it degenerates into pieces and enters the carb!

[xczxczxcz]

DIY 26 MAR 1100-1600hrs

 

Blk 21 Joo Seng Road Void Deck (Postal 360021)

 

Due to the heat from the town council we received yesterday, I've decided to limit the number of people attending DIY to 3 PAX. Based on first come first serve basis now.

 

1.xczxczxcz

2.

3.

sorry i missed yst diy,caught in the heavy rain elsewhere..

[Feelicks]

lawrence, count me in e diy!!! have trouble qouting on my iphone

[DarKz]

DIY 26 MAR 1100-1600hrs

 

Blk 21 Joo Seng Road Void Deck (Postal 360021)

 

Can I come and watch you guys do? Just want to have an idea of hands on experience. (:

[personified]

sorry i missed yst diy,caught in the heavy rain elsewhere..

 

bro where u went..i go in to take something,come out ,u left liao...???

[dDtim]

Hey Tim,

 

I doubt I helped much, I was just walking around trying to get myself dry.

 

Regarding your setting, did you adjust your air/fuel screw when you took out your carb?

 

The thing is, it's not that tough to remove your carb, wash it and fix it back. But most of us dont know how to actually tune it by listening to the engine etc.

Which is why I never do my carb setting by myself, but prefer to get my mechanic to do it for me according to my wishes.

 

In any case, if you're looking for a really smooth throttle, just go PREMIX! Simple mechanical reason. Your throttle pulls both the throttle cable and 2T cable. But removing the 2T cable while going premix, you just pull on one cable, thus the easier pull and illusion that the bike is faster. Personally, I'd go premix too if I didnt have such a heavy mileage to run. I hate the thought of topping up the 2T every 2 days when i pump petrol!

 

Also, i recommend you give WEDA a call before you head down. Last I checked there were no 132, and 135 main jets.

 

The water cooling system is something advertised by Teck Thye. Personally I've not tried it, but i dont think it's a necessary mod. Our RS125 arent that hot, unless you're running a Polini. And it just adds extra weight to the bike, and draws more battery power. I think it's about 200plus.

 

Yeah, you were walking around but lightens the mood with all you around.

 

My needle setting is off I'm sure, went all the way in when I put it in as opposed to the time I took it out, was 3 from top or something. I'll probably test a few bikes out before I get anything.

 

How does the pod filter sit? Standalone?

 

I agree our bikes don't get too hot, usually only feel the heat when I'm carrying a pillion and going in a jam which is seldom.

 

Yes I heard WEDA is out, so just checking if the forumers have some left over from their stock carb.

 

I'll probably head down to a workshop soon to get my chain tightened.

 

I'll run premix as I don't really run around alot, 1:50 a good ratio to start with? Also what's an appropriate 2T to use? As I heard a thin 2T would mix better, currently still have about 1/2 or more in my tank so I'm thinking of using it up before converting.

 

Lastly are the heavy duty chains from PJME been testing by anyone here, would like to hear some feedbacks.

 

Lawrance: I'll try to schedule in the auto chain oiler with you, do PM me days this month that you will be free? As I'll be flying off to Taiwan for 3 weeks next month 11th.

 

Subzero: I'll not be able to collect my items from pjme if the delivery is between my trip to Taiwan. Probably collect it in May. Please do inform me if you are to make the order as I might add on some items - like the pod filter

[binaryfinary]

Hi all,

 

would like to check with all the RS125 owners which insurance firms you use?

I got an indicative quote from NTUC for comprehensive insurance and received an indicative quote for S$1425 per year.

Im going to be a new 2b rider hopefully sometime in May, 29yrs old (30 this year), Male.

Intend to buy a new rs 125 when i pass my TP

 

would the more experienced riders please advise if S$1.4k is reasonable?

 

Thanks

[dDtim]

Can I come and watch you guys do? Just want to have an idea of hands on experience. (:

 

Hi darkz, it's better if you actually join in as you would miss quite a few details without using the sense of touch.

[mesab0ogie]

Hi all,

 

would like to check with all the RS125 owners which insurance firms you use?

I got an indicative quote from NTUC for comprehensive insurance and received an indicative quote for S$1425 per year.

Im going to be a new 2b rider hopefully sometime in May, 29yrs old (30 this year), Male.

Intend to buy a new rs 125 when i pass my TP

 

would the more experienced riders please advise if S$1.4k is reasonable?

 

Thanks

 

reasonable or not u have no choice. Coz NTUC is the only company which insures the aprilia's for P-platers. Correct me if im wrong.

[dDtim]

Hi all,

 

would like to check with all the RS125 owners which insurance firms you use?

I got an indicative quote from NTUC for comprehensive insurance and received an indicative quote for S$1425 per year.

Im going to be a new 2b rider hopefully sometime in May, 29yrs old (30 this year), Male.

Intend to buy a new rs 125 when i pass my TP

 

would the more experienced riders please advise if S$1.4k is reasonable?

 

Thanks

 

Hi, from what I collected during our discussions, a new rider would pay around 1.6k for insurance by NTUC(P-plate, below 21) if I didn't hear wrongly Crisisady mentioned that only NTUC and possibly ASA covers aprilias. Do give it a check, alternatively you can look up the list on one-motoring and call the different companies up. Personally I paid 1527 for my insurance.

[dDtim]

reasonable or not u have no choice. Coz NTUC is the only company which insures the aprilia's for P-platers. Correct me if im wrong.

 

You're right, Im not sure they make exceptions for his age, best if he checked it out himself.

[dDtim]

lawrence, count me in e diy!!! have trouble qouting on my iphone

 

Hi Felix, hows your bike with the carb overflowing, what caused it?

[binaryfinary]

thanks guys,

i was hoping that cos im "older" relatively spaking, my insurance wont be so high.

i didnt know no other insurance firm besides NTUC underwrites Aprilia. that sucks

[dDtim]

thanks guys,

i was hoping that cos im "older" relatively spaking, my insurance wont be so high.

i didnt know no other insurance firm besides NTUC underwrites Aprilia. that sucks

 

You'll enjoy an insurance premium of possibly 800 give or take after your first year.