SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

[bean_beanlim]

I used swing back and front with one foot on the main stand step

 

Tomorrow morning will try both method to see which one suitable for me .

[scoobydoo]

Today just collect my silverwing 400 . When I put to main stand no issue but want to bring down from main stand very big issue . Use all my 喝奶力 also can't bring my bike down . Senior any technic to bring the giant down with ease ? I short short only 161cm do it play a part?

bro, we about same size... me only 162cm and 60kg but as long as we don't try to fight the beast's weight, we'll be ok.

regardless of 180cm or 160cm, 80kg or 60kg, don't think any of us can out muscle the >250kg (when loaded) beast. but with technique, we'll do fine

 

some tips... especially if you're new to big-fat-heavy scooters

posted before, sharing again...

* don't treat the SW like a road bike or those small zippy scooters; it has larger turning circle (longer wheelbase) and doesn't cup corners like them

* brake earlier cos stopping distance is longer. even with ABS and CBS, it ain't gonna stop very short due to its larger momemtum (p = mass x velocity)

* avoid acute turns. once the handlebar gets locked in (e.g. max turn) and it's on its way down beyond threshold recovery angle, it's almost impossible for smaller riders to muscle it up. i.e. make bigger circle u-turns to avoid dropping bike.

* if bike is already on the way down beyond recovery (applies to stationary drop), way to minimise damage is to quickly step out on same side as drop, hold the handle bar firmly, support and lay the bike down as slowly/gently as possible. you'll still get scratches on the tupperware, but at least you help prevent the tupperware from getting "internal injuries" (once the holder pins/fins inside head cowl breaks, the tupperware won't stick together nicely anymore) from "free fall" impact.

* use body weight + pull the left pillion handgrip when putting on mainstand. 60+kg isn't enough on its own to step the SW up, so left hand hold left handlebar/grip and keep bike standing upright, right hand hold left pillion handgrip, right leg on main stand foot-pedal, step-up and pull the left pillion handgrip in opposite direction from foot-pedal, your SW should go up smoothly.

* always park facing up-slope, regardless of main or side stand. main/side stands uses the weight of bike and angle of stand to lock it in position, so if angle is insufficient, it takes only a small knock to bring the bike down. we don't wanna see bike laying flat on the ground when we return ya. another advantage is, its easier to throttle the bike upslope than having to push/reverse the bike upslope.

* use cat repellents if your carpark has cats around, they love the SW's big flat seats; sleeping is one thing, but they tend to pee and scratch the seat. i've tried many different methods, best solution is to use mothballs (suggested by James). buy a pack (~$1), pour into a pair of old socks, use 1 string to tie them onto the rider's backrest leaving 1 on the rider seat and the other on pillion seat (must tie or cat will push it away), it works and the $1 pack lasts for a few months.

many more, but that's it for now... enjoy and ride safe

 

you may also wanna check out the SW Tech Corner... load of useful FAQ for reference

[h=1]Thread: Silverwing 400cc / 600cc Tech Corner[/h]

* New SW owner? Some pointers...

 

cheers

[michaeltan]

* always park facing up-slope, regardless of main or side stand. main/side stands uses the weight of bike and angle of stand to lock it in position, so if angle is insufficient, it takes only a small knock to bring the bike down. we don't wanna see bike laying flat on the ground when we return ya. another advantage is, its easier to throttle the bike upslope than having to push/reverse the bike upslope.

 

So in this case using main stand is not recommended? How difficult will it be to push the bike off the main stand in an up slope?

Edited February 2, 2016 by michaeltan

[Saintjo]

I dun even use main stand..looks too heavy alr..haha

[Saintjo]

Jus got official quote from Chong aik for the windscreen, $420...faint...

[scoobydoo]

So in this case using main stand is not recommended? How difficult will it be to push the bike off the main stand in an up slope?

to avoid tricky situations, choose your parking spot wisely... don't park at steep slope la.

another thing to avoid is avoid parking on soft ground when using side stand. if bo pian, find a relatively flat/big piece of rock to use as support below the SW's side stand's "foot", else the weight may press the foot into the soft ground and your SW may end up on its side

some SWingers carry with them a small piece of metal plate for that purpose.

 

for smaller riders, can try this to bring the SW down from main stand with ease...

sit on rider seat with both feet on ground, or standing with the fuel tank between our legs (recommended if both feet can't touch ground when backside is on seat)

* engine not started, in case accidentally throttle while bringing bike down

* whether to use parking brake is optional (i usually don't use unless at slope, just in case)

* both hand on throttle grip, handlebar at perpendicular (front wheel at fore-n-aft)

* all in 1 motion with body weight... lift the SW's front up pulling the handlebar backwards and quickly push bike forward and roll down from main stand

. . . if not enough strength, can consider pushing front down a little and "bounce" the front up together

. . . you'll realise that it's more difficult to "bounce" with front brakes activated at this point

* also remember to quickly activate brakes to keep bike from rolling front/back if parking brake is not used

* whoala

 

same lift-n-push (or bounce+lift-n-push) technique can be used when bringing the SW down while standing at bike's side

 

have fun

[Tanarthur]

Jus got official quote from Chong aik for the windscreen, $420...faint...

 

Try FJT or http://www.webike.com

 

 

Let's just ride....

[scoobydoo]

if Singapore sells so expensive, can consider buying overseas...

 

actually, many lobangs are already posted at the Tech Corner, go see la

 

for example: http://www.servicehonda.com/parts.html

they listed the FJS windscreen "67101-MCT-680 WINDSCREEN" at US$219.11 before shipping... can ship to Singapore? shipping costs?

if no hurry, ship by sea is cheaper.

http://www.servicehonda.com/images/aa.overseas.jpg

ps: i'm not their salesman hor

 

added some info... updated Performance Motors & Motovation

 

 

Honda Agent: Boon Siew Singapore Pte Ltd

Tel: 62105081 (parts), 62105099 (service)

75 Bukit Timah Road, #01-01, Boon Siew Building, Singapore 229833

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:75%20Bukit%20Timah%20Road

workmanship: $100 onwards

belt: $179($135)

rollers: $42($32)

sliders(u-clips): $20($15)

eo filter: $26($20)

air filter: $57($43)

battery: $210 (no discount)

"silver wing" chrome insignia 1 pair: $89 (via order)

windshield: $500

* bike from BS can get 25% or 15% discounts on items purchase from their parts centre

 

Parts dealer: FJT Parts & Accessories Pte Ltd

Tel: 63925928, 63925927

15 Rowell Road, Singapore 207973

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:15%20Rowell%20Road

(only sell spares, find you own mechanic)

belt: $115

rollers: $40

sliders(u-clips): $14

eo filter: $15

air filter: $45

magnetic coil (magneto): $260

yuasa battery: YTZ12S $145, YTZ14S $155

yuasa battery with honda logo: >$200+ (didn't ask for exact figure)

"silver wing" chrome insignia 1 pair: abt $80 (via order)

rear shocks: $210 each

 

Parts dealer: Ever Success Auto Parts Pte Ltd

Tel: 62925909

17 Lembu Rd, Singapore 208450

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:17%20Lembu%20Rd

(only sell spares, find you own mechanic)

belt: $135

rollers: $40

sliders(u-clips): $14

eo filter: $8 (oem)

air filter: $42

 

Parts dealer: Everfit Motor Pte Ltd

Tel: 6293 8925

96 Desker Road, Singapore 209618http://gothere.sg/maps#q:96%20Desker%20Road

(only sell spares, find you own mechanic)

sliders: $9+

clutch pegs: $65+

 

Regular/Recommended workshops for servicing:

A.C. Motor

Tel: 90220203 (look for Ah Choong)

10 Kaki Bukit Rd 2 #01-22 (formerly #03-02 then #03-25) First East Centre, S417868

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:10%20Kaki%20Bukit%20Road%202

ps: this is a regular shop many of us (including me) go to, good service at reasonable prices. suggest you call to check service availability (minimise waiting time).

 

K & T Accessory Trading Pte Ltd

Tel: 67455463 (look for Clifford)

3006 Ubi Rd 1 #01-372, Singapore 408700

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:3006%20Ubi%20Rd%201

ps: this is a regular shop many of us (including me) go to, good service at reasonable prices. suggest you call to check service availability (minimise waiting time).

 

Future Scootering

Tel: 63922393 (look for Kenny)

50 Bukit Batok Street 23 #02-26 @ MidView Building Singapore 659578

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:midview%20building

ps: IMO, prices have gone up quite a bit, too much for my preference

 

Wonderful Motor

Tel: 96936520 - look for "Botak" (boss)

494 Macpherson Rd, Singapore 368200

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:494%20Macpherson%20Rd

ps: I haven't gone there since 2008, can't comment on prices and services there.

 

 

Other workshops:

 

Unique Motorsports Pte Ltd

Main Tel: 68446378 (look for ALEC)

1 Kaki Bukit Ave 6 #02-54 Autobay @ Kaki Bukit Singapore 417883

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:417883

Branch Tel: 6515 4978 (look for ALEX)

38 Toh Guan Rd East #01-57 Enterprise Hub Singapore 608581

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:38%20Toh%20Guan%20Rd%20East

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/225675-SBF-Silverwings-Cafe-2009-2010-JDM-Euro-400-600?p=6945212&viewfull=1#post6945212

 

Hodaka Motoworld Pte Ltd

Tel: 68440792, 68440079 (look for Muji)

KB Industrial Building, 10 Kaki Bukit Rd 1, #01-08 Singapore 416175

Boutique Showroom (City Branch) Tel: 63361126

http://www.motoworld.com.sg/locate.php#

note: distributor of pirilli bike tyres

 

Sporting Motors Pte Ltd

1 Kaki Bukit Ave 6 #02-60 Autobay @ Kaki Bukit Singapore 417883

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:417883

Tel: 6396 0230

 

Parts/Accessories Suppliers:

 

Lim Ah Boy Pte Ltd (aka LAB)

Tel: 62967914, 62968035

23 Kelantan Lane #01-03 Kim Hoe Centre S(208642)

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:23%20Kelantan%20Lane%20Kim%20Hoe%20Centre

- sells almost everything you need for a bike, except the bike, towing too

- Givi E450 Simply (matt black) + plastic base plate $100

- Givi E450 Simply (matt black) + brake lights + plastic base plate $110

- Givi E52 Maxia case only $280

- Givi aluminium base plate for Maxia $50

- throttle rocker $4

 

Cyclenet Pte Ltd

~ Givi authorised distributor in Singapore

1179 Serangoon Road, Singapore 328232

Tel: 62956393, 62950748

Email: elyngoh10@yahoo.com.sg

company is together with Mah Pte Ltd (not Mah Motor)

 

Tat Beng & Co Battery Service

Tel: 62981110

121 Lavender Street S338732

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:121%20Lavender%20Street

Yuasa YTZ-14S $145 (cash), +7% GST if with invoice

~ as at 28/03/2011

 

Wing Yap Motor Pte Ltd

Tel: 64513338 (look for Jackson)

Blk 4003 #01-114 AMK Ave 10

Singapore 569624

http://www.wingyap.com.sg/

Skyrich Lithium Battery - Singapore distributor

 

Eugene Saddlery

203A Jalan Besar Singapore 208889

Tel: 62933613, 94307471 (look for Eugene)

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Eugene-Saddlery/164522110267438

http://eugenesaddlery.weebly.com/

 

Performance Motors (Bukit Timah)

Sime Darby Centre, 896 Dunearn Road Singapore 589472

(go to level 2)

Tel: 6319 0208

~ BMW motorcycle grip $23.10

 

Motorvation Accessory

53 Ubi Ave 1 Paya Ubi Industrial Park #03-29 Singapore 408934

Tel: 67471477, Fax: 67471477

Monday-Friday 1030hrs-1630hrs, Saturday 1030hrs-1400hrs

http://www.motovation-accessory.com.sg/index.php?act=contact

~ Stainless Steel Barend Sliders (for Suzuki), Model: #SSS02 $70.00

 

 

Looking for Stock & OEM parts online?

 

Check these out... note that many parts from FSC600 (US sites) are also usable.

 

WeBike.net ... Shop in Japan

http://japan.webike.net/HONDA/SW-T400+%28SILVER+WING400%2CFJS600%29/228/mtop/

 

Wemoto.com ... Shop in UK

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/honda/fjs_400_d6_d7_d8_silverwing/06-08/

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/honda/fjs_400_silverwing_a9_d9/09/

 

Racing Planet UK ... Shop in UK

http://www.racing-planet.co.uk/silver-wing-fjs-400-nf01-06-08-c-3874_27489-1.html

http://www.racing-planet.co.uk/silver-wing-fjs-400-nf03-09-c-3874_27523-1.html

 

BikeParts Honda ... Shop in France

http://www.bike-parts-honda.com/honda-moto-model-SILVER-WING-400-2009.html

http://www.bike-parts-honda.com/honda-moto-model-SILVER-WING-400-2010.html

 

OEM Motorparts.com ... Shop in The Netherlands (aka Hollan)

https://www.oemmotorparts.com/oem4.asp?M=Honda&T=FJS400D&Y=2008&L=HO-FJS400D8

 

Service Honda ... Shop in US

http://www.servicehonda.com/parts.html

 

JC Whitney ... Shop in US

http://www.jcwhitney.com/motorcycle/for-your-motorcycle/honda-motorcycle-fsc600-silver-wing-2009/c126d60196y2009j3s24.jcwx?filterid=d60196y2009

 

Twisted Throttle ... Shop in US

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/shop-by-bike/honda/silverwing-600

 

Scooter West ... Shop in US

http://www.scooterwest.com/pv_items/Honda-Silver-Wing-600/global/137

 

 

For used spare parts, may also consider scrapyards, e.g.

 

Ah Ann Trading

76 Sungei Kadut St 1 (near J5 Block)

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:76%20Sungei%20Kadut%20St%201

... updated as at Dec 2013

Recommended to ask if they have what you want before going down

Ah Ann HP 96256549

 

Need Headlights Halogen Bulbs? SW uses H7

Personally, I'ld recommend the Philips Xtreme Vision (or Power) over the Osrams or Ring which I have used, other than those much cheaper Korean or few dollars "standard" halogen bulbs.

Why not the very popular Diamond Vision? Cos its colour temperated is rated at 5000K, not LTA friendly.

 

anodise57

Premium Products - HELLA, Philips & Osram

 

SMS or Whatsapp: 98898161

 

MXTradings

Frontier 50 Ubi Ave 3, #05-13 Singapore 408866

Tue~Fri: 1pm to 8pm

Weekends: 10.30am~2pm

Closed on Mondays & Public Holidays

HP: 90262657 (Nicholas)

http://www.mxtradings.com/Osram%20Philips.htm

H7 Philips Xtreme Vision costs S$63 a pair.

 

Autolamps-Online.com

http://www.autolamps-online.com/categories/Car-Headlamps/More-Light/100%25-X%252dtreme-Vision/

H7 Philips Xtreme Vision costs US$38.22 (excl. VAT) a pair.

... convert at 1.265 ... around S$48.35 a pair

 

PowerBulbs.com

http://www.powerbulbs.com/

for comparison purpose, H7 Philips Xtreme Vision costs US$42.85 a pair.

... convert at 1.265 ... around S$54.21

 

 

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notes:

~ prices may vary according to your bargaining skills, friendship power, any promotion or package deals, etc.

~ unless otherwise stated, prices are historical prices only for reference as a guide, i.e. not current quotes.

~ prices may vary according to market conditions and foreign exchange fluctuations (e.g. more expensive when japanese yen appreciates)

~ workmanship charges WILL differ at different motorshops/mechanics thus not included here

~ workmanship charges of $100 at BS is for only changing the belt, roller & u-clips job, WILL increase when other jobs are also done

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[scoobydoo]

just sharing another lobang... other than the popular Hagon and very expensive Bitubo aftermarket shocks for SW, we can have another option...

 

http://cmuf1.eng.cmu.ac.th/img/logo-yss.jpg

http://images.wemoto.com/full/SHOCKS_YSS/10058931.jpg

Wemoto.com listed the "Rear YSS ECO Twin Shocks" as follows:

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/honda/fjs_400_silverwing_a9_d9/09/picture/rear_yss_eco_twin_shocks/

. . . item price (pair) £152.95

. . . plus shipping/insurance £30.89

. . . less VAT £30.64 (shipping to outside UK)

. . . total price for order = £153.20 (something like S$315)

 

Tech Corner post:

* After-market Suspensions

 

looks wise, more "chio" than the very plain hagon.

performance good or not i dunno, but at least it's another option

[chew chye poh]

Brought liao it harder than stock bit not sure whether it better than hagon a not

[SW9000]

That YSS I also have.

Ordered in Dec but haven't used yet. Brand new.

 

By measurement at rest, the length is shorter than Original.

Not sure the sag will be less than the Stock?

 

 

If any wants it, $250 cash and carry.

[scoobydoo]

hehe... so many fast hand fast leg pp around

[scoobydoo]

wah David... new avatar girl?

or same girl LESS cloth? looking forward for next change... less less

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/image.php?u=29651&dateline=1454505229

[SW9000]

Quietly changed also you noticed.

The Horniness is still there.

[Saintjo]

Bro,I see there's a small square piece below the ignition key area..can I screw a hook there to hang things? Or there is a replacement piece w hook?

[scoobydoo]

To All Riders...

 

新年快乐，身体健康。

Happy New Year, Best Wishes for Good Health.

万事如意，骑车安全。

Prosperous Year Ahead, Safe Rides Everywhere.

发啊！！！

Money Come Come Come ! ! !

 

[scoobydoo]

Bro,I see there's a small square piece below the ignition key area..can I screw a hook there to hang things? Or there is a replacement piece w hook?

check this out...

* Utility Hooks

[Saintjo]

check this out...

* Utility Hooks

 

Thx for the info bro

[SW9000]

Today no meeting at Rail Mall.

 

Some kakis would be having Kuriya Japanese food at the new Waterway Point at 7pm instead.

[bean_beanlim]

Heart so pain today . This morning I just drop my silverwing while looking for a parking lot . Now the right hand side tapper ware got deep scratches . I just collected the bike on the 1st of Feb this y month Senior any advice on which sticker shop to go to paste reflective sticker to cover the deep scratches. 219 quote me $150 . Aunty shop didn't open today so dun know how much they will quote . Between this 2 whose pricing more compactive.?

[sad_how]

Hi guys. I'm looking high and low for any pictorials or instrucitions on removal of the panels on a swt400. Any one can direct me pls? Appreciate any kind of help!!

Cheers and happy CNY!

[SW9000]

The scratches very big?

If not big, then some stickers with pattern (tribal, fire, etc) might do.

 

Otherwise, can also visit JuzzWheelzz at Bukit Merah.

[bean_beanlim]

The scratches very big?

If not big, then some stickers with pattern (tribal, fire, etc) might do.

 

Otherwise, can also visit JuzzWheelzz at Bukit Merah.

 

Not very big area but all deep scratches. Need to sand off before pasting sticker

[scoobydoo]

for deep scratches, may wanna consider using some car bodyworks putty, dry and level using fine grade sandpaper (with water), before putting sticker to cover the patch. where to buy putty? try autobacs, 3M, TaoBao or Qoo10.sg

[SW9000]

Tonight meeting as usual. Rail Mall Coffee Bean, 7pm.