[Technical] Engine Oil - All related matters in EO

[jevan]

i see that chex is recommended by jtzx to last at least 2.5k? so its ok right to go change when its near 2.5k right? kinda busy these few days to go down and my bike is almost at the 2k point already.

[VidaK]

i see that chex is recommended by jtzx to last at least 2.5k? so its ok right to go change when its near 2.5k right? kinda busy these few days to go down and my bike is almost at the 2k point already.

 

no matter what EO you are using... its good to change it between 2000km to 2500km... and try to check your EO level when you hit the 1500km and 2000km marks just in case your EO is dangerously low...

[jevan]

i see. hmm i'll definitely change it before 2500. just that im thinking if it's okay to go beyond 2000. because my daily mileage is ard 80km. so just a few more days would bring it to maybe 2200.

 

to check the EO level, we have to stand the bike upright, take out the dipstick, clean it then dip it back in to check right? thats kinda impossible to do alone.

[mepkoh]

i see. hmm i'll definitely change it before 2500. just that im thinking if it's okay to go beyond 2000. because my daily mileage is ard 80km. so just a few more days would bring it to maybe 2200.

 

to check the EO level, we have to stand the bike upright, take out the dipstick, clean it then dip it back in to check right? thats kinda impossible to do alone.

 

tis is what i will do-one man job

 

with bike on the side stand

remove dip stick...

clean it...drop i into hole..

sit on bike..slowly upright it..stand for 10 seconds? ...

slowly lower bike on side stand..

remove dip stick and check..

[jevan]

i see. sounds do-able. engine has to be cool when i do this right?

 

thanks to VidaK and mepkoh.

[weian]

Lets get things organised. Please add on to the list. Try to keep it alphabetically arranged thank you!

 

Strictly for TA200 riders reviews only

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Bel-Ray-96262-Thumper-20W50-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Belray thumper 20w50(Unique motorsports/hkl) $18

Hydher - After 1000k,gear shifting was slick 4.5/5

 

 

 

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_malaysia/STAGING/local_assets/images/products/mco_power14t_malaysia_375x253.jpg

Castrol Power 1 15w40 (Thailand) 100 baht / S$4.26

VidaK - Gear changing is a little stiff, engine sounds rough and top speed is much lower than before 2/5

jianping - worst EO on my bike, engine feels less powerful,noisy and rough.. need to throttle alot more to attain 90km/hr on expressway.. avoid this.. i bought at $12.. 1/5

 

 

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IHSFI5DXqm4/ShF8-VdH1fI/AAAAAAAADmQ/rMjBbBzoXdw/s512/DSC00359.JPG

Chessa Chex 9000 10w50 (planet) $16

VidaK - No gear changing problems, or other problems. Although there is more vibration then quality oils, it is good value for your money 4/5

jtzx- Great fully syn Eo. which is value for money which can last at least 2.5k millege 5/5

armani123sg- gd, no problems but didnt feel any diff comparing to FUCHS brand.

 

 

FUCHS [Which series?]15w50 (planet) $10

Hydher - I hated it after 1k, gear changing was rough as hell and stuck at neutrals 2/5

armani123sg- gd, no problems but didnt feel any diff comparing to CHEX brand.

 

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-32901-Maxum4-Extra-100-Synthetic-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-15W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 15w50 extra (planet) $21

VidaK - no problems with the bike, but compared to the chex, this oil lost outright since its much more expensive... 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-35901B-Maxum4-Synthetic-Blend-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-20W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 20w50 synblend (planet) $15

Hydher - Was used for long distance travelling. Was soso. 4/5

nuttybing - can feel the roughness in changing gears after around 1300km, so so only 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-36901-Maxum4-Ultra-100-Synthetic-High-RPM-Formula-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-5W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 5w50 ultra (planet) $23

VidaK - No doubt it is a good oil, but it is a little expensive 3.5/5

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_0237.jpg

Mobil 20w50 $7

Pending reviews

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/300V_4T_FACTORYLINE_15W50.jpg

Motul 300v 15w50 (planet) $28

VidaK - The smoothest is unreal. In fact top speed increased. 4.5/5

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/5100_4T_15W50_1L_A.jpg

Motul 5100 15w50 (semi)

nuttybing - Gear changing is really smooth, can feel the power along with the throttle, around 2000km can feel it deteriorating 4/5

 

 

 

NASA [Which series?]10w40 (planet) $10

Hydher - Not bad in all rounders even price. 4/5.

jtzx - pick up quite bad but over all good.. 3.5/5

armani123sg- acceleration faster, nicer sound, better than the FUCHS and CHEX but my FC decrease from usually 40km/hr on FUCHS/CHEX to 37km/hr on NASA...

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_9969.jpg

Putoline SUPER DX 4 SEMI SYN $8 LAB

Rating 2.5/5. Useable for 2k and you get what you pay for.

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_0242.jpg

Total 15w50 $8.90

jtzx - Bought this at carefour for only $5.90 for my DIy oiler.

 

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd246/tosco1122/HR50white.jpg

Verity 15w50 fully synthetic (planet) $26

VidaK - It is very good, but not the best. Quite expensive also... 3.5/5

so which EO is the best for our beloved ta200? lol. i used to be using Maxima Synblend, but changed it to Chex 9000 after reading this review but i felt that i had more difficulty changing gears. so i was wondering whether if it's a coincidence that it's time my clutch plate should be changed or should i use a different EO. haha. please advise. ty with much appreciation!

[armani123sg]

so which EO is the best for our beloved ta200? lol. i used to be using Maxima Synblend, but changed it to Chex 9000 after reading this review but i felt that i had more difficulty changing gears. so i was wondering whether if it's a coincidence that it's time my clutch plate should be changed or should i use a different EO. haha. please advise. ty with much appreciation!

 

maybe u might get ur answer by switching back to ur maxima first?

[weian]

haha. actually, that was what i tot too. heh. maybe Chex 9000 (10w50) too thick, was what im thinking. oh wells, have to wait for another 1800km to change EO. lol

[jevan]

when i went to change my EO yesterday, the mech put in 1.5l for me. this amount is too much right? because i believe 1.2 was enough. but he already poured in already. so nothing i could do. now my worry is if too much will do harm?

[jtzx]

of cause yes!! gasket spoilt i think... 1.2L max EO!

[VidaK]

when i went to change my EO yesterday, the mech put in 1.5l for me. this amount is too much right? because i believe 1.2 was enough. but he already poured in already. so nothing i could do. now my worry is if too much will do harm?

 

too much EO... and yes you can do something about it... siphon the excess EO out of your bike from where you poured in the EO...

 

and avoid going back to the shop where you changed EO... the mech knows very well that a phantom uses only 1l to 1.2l of engine oil... he was trying to kill your bike...

 

of cause yes!! gasket spoilt i think... 1.2L max EO!

 

choy choy choy choy choy...

[jtzx]

hahahahah.. must scare Him also ;-)

[VidaK]

hahahahah.. must scare Him also ;-)

 

the gaskets don't last forever... once its a little old it can fail... especially by adding too much EO that turns the engine into a pressure cooker...

[jevan]

wa so how do i get the EO out?! well, lets just say the shop is a very trusted shop and i think the mech was just having a crazy moment. im really kinda worried abt the possible damage.

[jeffrey83]

oh my god... mine also kana 1.5L!!!

 

dun tell me its the same SHOP...at UBI???

[mepkoh]

i use a pump..to get extra eo out...via the top up cover where u check the min and max level..

pump..reuse one from shampoo/bath soap dispenser..etc.etc keep one handy...multi purpose tool to extract liquid...through tiny holes...

 

mya be it is best to repeat the qty of eo required..

1L..for eo chnage...top up as and when necessary..

 

why 1.2?..dont be confused with the total eo in the engine..during servicing..the eo in engine cannot be 100% REMOVED..

[jevan]

jeffrey83, yeah its in ubi. did the mech find out some new info that makes them feel that pouring 1.5l is a good idea???

 

mepkoh, thats a good idea. i should get one too. the extra eo that i pump out has to be disposed right? because i've been riding ard these few days already. how to dispose?

 

so everytime i change my eo, 1l is enough? then i keep a bottle to pour when its low? most mech recommend 1.2l eh. why?

[jtzx]

gasket spoilt is nothin serious, what it'll affect is only oil seeping from the mating area of the top and bottom block...

 

 

 

you nv know....seen b4 so i shall leave it to ur opinions....

 

alright.. just went down to check. Everythings seems ok. No EO leaking on the floor le..

 

Heng Heng:angel:

 

hi ppl. sorry to post here again after posting in the eo thread. but anyone knows how to remove engine oil? the mech poured in 1.5l when i went to change ytd. and that much engine oil will damage engine right?

 

you may wanna try using shampoo pump to drain out the EO ;-)

[mepkoh]

jeffrey83, yeah its in ubi. did the mech find out some new info that makes them feel that pouring 1.5l is a good idea???

 

mepkoh, thats a good idea. i should get one too. the extra eo that i pump out has to be disposed right? because i've been riding ard these few days already. how to dispose?

 

so everytime i change my eo, 1l is enough? then i keep a bottle to pour when its low? most mech recommend 1.2l eh. why?

 

clean the pump thoroughly...

 

then the extra..keep for top up..

 

u see..mech put 1.2L..that means u need to pay for 2 bottles instead of 1..

[VidaK]

gasket spoilt is nothin serious, what it'll affect is only oil seeping from the mating area of the top and bottom block...

 

 

 

you nv know....seen b4 so i shall leave it to ur opinions....

 

I can't imagine travelling along nshw at our usual speeds with engine oil leaking...

[jevan]

mepkoh, i've been using the EO in my engine for 2-3 days already. still can keep? i think i'll check my EO level. if its in the acceptable range (shouldnt be right?) then i wont pump. but if its not, i'll look for a pump asap and pump some out.

 

ya but that extra bottle of 1l oil, i can use 5 times if i pour 1.2l everytime i change. just that this time the fellow put in 1.5l for me. abit scary.

[mepkoh]

mepkoh, i've been using the EO in my engine for 2-3 days already. still can keep? i think i'll check my EO level. if its in the acceptable range (shouldnt be right?) then i wont pump. but if its not, i'll look for a pump asap and pump some out.

 

ya but that extra bottle of 1l oil, i can use 5 times if i pour 1.2l everytime i change. just that this time the fellow put in 1.5l for me. abit scary.

 

thats still new (old) oil..oil still in almost perfect condition...keep it for top ups.

 

your sump is practically overflowing with eo....if not theres trouble.

 

hey.. 1L enough for eo changes...1.2 is still 200ml too many

[jtzx]

clean the pump thoroughly...

 

then the extra..keep for top up..

 

u see..mech put 1.2L..that means u need to pay for 2 bottles instead of 1..

 

haha.. initially ah chong ask me to get 2 bottles Of EO too. But i told him it's alright. SO he ramdomly found extra Eo. so poured in 100ml ;-)

 

some workshops kill your bike in purpose..

 

I can't imagine travelling along nshw at our usual speeds with engine oil leaking...

 

leaving tracks of Oil everywhere.

[weian]

weird, why would he get ask u to get 2 bottle of EO? =/

[mepkoh]

alarmak.....just like the cake seller says buy 1 dozen lah..when u wanted 1 only