[Technical] Engine Oil - All related matters in EO

[mepkoh]

castrol mineral...less than ringgit$10...in singapore u also pay S$10...thats the kind of prices u can expect.

[VidaK]

next time in the city area must check out the prices...

[Finrod]

u mean i can get it from planet? chessa? maybe i wanna try out that too.

Ah Koon got sell this oil too but i personally find that its rough on the engines. Its spelled as chex right?

[VidaK]

Ah Koon got sell this oil too but i personally find that its rough on the engines. Its spelled as chex right?

 

yea... but I wonder if there are other thickness other than 10w50...

[lv3338]

I changed my EO last time.

If buy EO from Malaysia, it is a lot cheap.

 

overhaul in Malaysis also cheaper lor..kekeke

[jtzx]

Ah Koon got sell this oil too but i personally find that its rough on the engines. Its spelled as chex right?

 

more rough then red T??

 

maybe i will try around first.. i have 2 other brands to try only..

 

semi eo mobil

and chex fully EO..

 

after which most prob i will just stick to one.. ;-)

[Finrod]

Actually i used SPC 4T Ace which cost $21. fully synthetic oil. Its much stronger than RED, CHEX and also Mobil. When i rode ur phantom, i use the said SPC oil and normal plugs....good and powerful enough.

[jtzx]

Actually i used SPC 4T Ace which cost $21. fully synthetic oil. Its much stronger than RED, CHEX and also Mobil. When i rode ur phantom, i use the said SPC oil and normal plugs....good and powerful enough.

 

no wond3r i gt your bike the speed everything so good.. cause once change to red t, i find the engine abit not strong... anyway.. thanks for the information. where can i get it???

 

 

mine smsing me the full brand name of the oil???

 

fully eo can last longer than semi eo true?

 

as in the milliege clock

[Finrod]

Some spc petrol kiosk got workshop which can do bikes. The name of the oil i used is the said above, bottle is gold in colour. Dun buy the cheaper silver bottle k bro. Btw u might wanna check out Maxima if u want power. Honestly Maxima is way better than these 4 oils. Just use normal plugs k, dun waste money on those iridium plugs....phantom engine might not be able to fully utilise it. The money saved from buying an iridium plugs can get u a brand new air filter, cost $10 from Ah Boy....diy. If u want, u go buy the filter and i can help u show how to diy....

 

Actually fully syn can last way longer than semi syn. I know of some ppl stretching to 10 000km. Personally for me, the longest i'll use the fully is 5k. Dats cost TA200 does uses up engine oil.

[jtzx]

oh... so you suggest i use maxima or 4t ace?? i wanna try around first.. last time you using normal plugs only??

 

oh yea.. regarding air filter, when do i change it??

 

basic maintaince is just EO , plugs , tires , air filter rite?

[Finrod]

More money use maxima, for just normal means usage, 4T Ace is enuff. I did use iridium plugs b4 but generally felt that its a waste of money. Normal plugs will do the job. Buy 1 spare plug and keep in box for those " in case's". Air filter i see dirty then i change, im not sure at which mileage do u have to change though. Buy from ah boy and diy coz Ah Koon quoted me $20 for air filter....just imagine. And to think that i saw him buy his stuffs from Ah Boy b4..lol.

 

Basic maintenance is all that plus chain tension....if u pillion a lot, doesnt hurt to check. Keep an eye on ur brake fluid levels also bro, and ur brake pads. Fyi, ur brake pads still got long life.

 

And also....dun forget to top up petrol....heh heh.

[Finrod]

more money use maxima, for normal means usage then use 4T ace. can try maxima to get the feel of the power first....lol. use normal plugs enuff.....last time i used iridium plugs b4 but felt that its a waste of money. u can just ignore me and try using it though to satisfy ur curiosity....cost ard $20 if i remember.

 

air filter change when dirty, buy from ah boy and diy k coz last time ah koon quoted me $20....imagine....

 

basic maintenance is all that plus check chain tension if u pillion a lot, brake fluid levels and also brake pad wear. Fyi ur brake pad still have got a lot of life in it.

 

and dun forget......pump petrol to enable bike to move....khekhekhe

[jtzx]

More money use maxima, for just normal means usage, 4T Ace is enuff. I did use iridium plugs b4 but generally felt that its a waste of money. Normal plugs will do the job. Buy 1 spare plug and keep in box for those " in case's". Air filter i see dirty then i change, im not sure at which mileage do u have to change though. Buy from ah boy and diy coz Ah Koon quoted me $20 for air filter....just imagine. And to think that i saw him buy his stuffs from Ah Boy b4..lol.

 

Basic maintenance is all that plus chain tension....if u pillion a lot, doesnt hurt to check. Keep an eye on ur brake fluid levels also bro, and ur brake pads. Fyi, ur brake pads still got long life.

 

And also....dun forget to top up petrol....heh heh.

 

 

oh.. ok.. up next on my list will try your 4t ace EO.. should be around the same price as chex9000 EO yea.. i ask uncle how to change sparkplug, till now still dunno ;-(

 

oh air filter on the left i think. just open and check only? so far i tighten my chain before already.

 

yup petrol is a YES. or else i'm doom. hit reserved twice already though.

[Finrod]

changing sparkplug is easy, done it myself b4. The tools is on the bike, i didnt take it from u......can show u how its done when we meet. The 4T ace is ard 22 yah bro.

Btw do learn to change reserve on the fly. If on middle lane, once u got he jerking feeling, signal left, change lane and reach down to turn to reserve.

[jtzx]

changing sparkplug is easy, done it myself b4. The tools is on the bike, i didnt take it from u......can show u how its done when we meet. The 4T ace is ard 22 yah bro.

Btw do learn to change reserve on the fly. If on middle lane, once u got he jerking feeling, signal left, change lane and reach down to turn to reserve.

 

oh yea... can teach me when we meet... maybe the PK highway ride?? yup saw the tools already. but dunno how to use them =p

 

also learned how to change to reserved on the fly le ;-) just get it only=x

[mepkoh]

oh yea... can teach me when we meet... maybe the PK highway ride?? yup saw the tools already. but dunno how to use them =p

 

also learned how to change to reserved on the fly le ;-) just get it only=x

 

looks like u have not handle hand tools before.....just remove any covers that is in the way....pull out plug cap, use tool to remove plug (anti clockwise to unscrew when view from the top of your plug..and clockwise to tighten--unless this is a left hand screw )

 

take note do not unscrew plug when the engine is hot...there is a high chance of damaging the screw threads and resulting in eo leakages through the plug. when reinstalling..always do not use force to engage screw threads.start with hand tightening then followed by a quarter turn of the tightening tool. note over tightening can cause problems lile thread damage.

 

have fun....

[jtzx]

looks like u have not handle hand tools before.....just remove any covers that is in the way....pull out plug cap, use tool to remove plug (anti clockwise to unscrew when view from the top of your plug..and clockwise to tighten--unless this is a left hand screw )

 

take note do not unscrew plug when the engine is hot...there is a high chance of damaging the screw threads and resulting in eo leakages through the plug. when reinstalling..always do not use force to engage screw threads.start with hand tightening then followed by a quarter turn of the tightening tool. note over tightening can cause problems lile thread damage.

 

have fun....

 

 

 

yup... don't dare to try by myself.. maybe will DIY myself when someone experience is beside me.. so that if there's any prob i would get some help ;-)

 

you going for the PK ride on may too?

[Hydher]

nope I'm using chessa... I wanna test out some other chemicals, hence I kept the EO same for this change...

 

chessa is the cheapest fully syn at $16... probably cheaper if you do other service together...

 

anyway, the mobil fully syn 10w40 is $21...

 

perhaps at the shop it is. but just fully based on what the label says, i can find fully syn eo for bikes at $7.90

[tng2377]

Try shell smei-syn EO cost ard RM24 only..

Can reduce a bit if buy more bottles..

Got it from those bike spare parts shop.

Save a lot for those who like D.I.Y

[VidaK]

Ok... test results of maxima extra 15w50 is out...

 

I have used it for 700km, then changed it off

 

sound: rougher/rawer than chex 9000

 

topspeed: slightly higher (1-2km/h)

 

gear changing: ok

 

value: chex > maxima extra

 

 

but there was a major problem... using the maxima caused my bike to die off when the bike hasn't warmed up yet... this does not happen with the chex... but the problem may lie with some other parts... so I shall observe my current EO... which is motul 300v 15w50

 

only rode in that new EO for about 30+ km today... damn smooth... the engine starts to roar (reach powerband) from 100km/h instead of the usual 110km/h... hope this EO stays this good...

[Toyota23]

Phantom on Fully Synthetic ????

[Hydher]

Ok... test results of maxima extra 15w50 is out...

 

I have used it for 700km, then changed it off

 

sound: rougher/rawer than chex 9000

 

topspeed: slightly higher (1-2km/h)

 

gear changing: ok

 

value: chex > maxima extra

 

 

but there was a major problem... using the maxima caused my bike to die off when the bike hasn't warmed up yet... this does not happen with the chex... but the problem may lie with some other parts... so I shall observe my current EO... which is motul 300v 15w50

 

only rode in that new EO for about 30+ km today... damn smooth... the engine starts to roar (reach powerband) from 100km/h instead of the usual 110km/h... hope this EO stays this good...

 

vidak change fully syn at 700km?

Give me your old eo. leh.. haha jk.

thanks for the review. Should try the belray.

btw, f.y.i some eo will be smooth after a certain mileage.Eg. from a review, super 4 on the maxima after 1k is performs better than the motul.

[jtzx]

what about the motu 15w50w at planet which cost $16? ( not so sure how's its spell) not "moto" for sure.

 

 

anyone tried b4?

[mepkoh]

motul..$16...this is mineral oil.

[Hydher]

Wah seriously? thats one expensive mineral oil. Im now on the $10 nasa from ah chong. Feels alright to me. Better than the fuchs definitely.

 

Saw the $6 15w50 and 15w40 $9 castrol eo from lab. So cheap.

However, Need to finish my putoline 15w50 first.