[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[joajas]

Hi Bros,

 

Today I bought this VerS. And I was given 2 keys. One for the engine, the other for the seat. Is this normal?

 

Probably one of the keyhole have been changed before. Due to what?? That you have to check with who you bought the bike from.

[Hondaman]

Probably one of the keyhole have been changed before. Due to what?? That you have to check with who you bought the bike from.

 

 

Bro, so fast reached home ah? I just saw you coming down the Mandai Estate hill 15min ago.

[Ah Pek]

Hi Bros,

 

Today I bought this VerS. And I was given 2 keys. One for the engine, the other for the seat. Is this normal?

 

Normally the ignition switch is the one that's changed. very common lah.

 

Can easily confirm this by using the other key for the fuel tank cap lock and seat..they the same.

[joajas]

Bro, so fast reached home ah? I just saw you coming down the Mandai Estate hill 15min ago.

 

I live nearby only mah. 10min can reach home liao.

[teokw]

yaya..you are right....fuel tank and seat using the same key....

 

Howcome the ignition switch was changed?

[joajas]

yaya..you are right....fuel tank and seat using the same key....

 

Howcome the ignition switch was changed?

 

My friend you really have to check with the person/shop you bought the bike from. There can be many reasons why it was changed.

 

Switch spoilt, key stuck and broken inside, people put super glue inside, bike accident before....

 

many reasons...

[Ah Pek]

My friend you really have to check with the person/shop you bought the bike from. There can be many reasons why it was changed.

 

Switch spoilt, key stuck and broken inside, people put super glue inside, bike accident before....

 

many reasons...

Yeah!...our Chief Mechanic:angel: is right!

[joajas]

Wah Kao.. Uncle William dun keep call me Chief Mech leh.

 

I too green liao lah. :sweat:

[Ah Pek]

Wah Kao.. Uncle William dun keep call me Chief Mech leh.

 

I too green liao lah. :sweat:

 

:angel: Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...Chief Mech...

 

Ok lah..Edition also Chief Mech what..oni never anounced

 

Btw guys..subject on "Overheating" at TeckGhee Tech Talk updated. Read about installation of third party exhaust..should you guys want to have Yo_shi lah..GPR lah..Bo_ro_Walk_Kee lah..Mine_Cronk lah..or Nikon and Minolta exhaust to your ride.

 

Coming up next is "Clutch Problem"...

[joajas]

 

 

Ok, time to read up Master Chief Meh Ah Pek's doctrines..

[Ah Pek]

 

 

Ok, time to read up Master Chief Meh Ah Pek's doctrines..

 

Aiyah...wasting your time lah...Smiley icon all binary coded virtual display only...how to die

 

 

Anyway..."Clutch Problems" at TeckGhee Tech Talk is up liao!

[Hondaman]

I live nearby only mah. 10min can reach home liao.

 

same lah I also very very very nearby. but still come late for work. bwhahahahah!

[Marcheline]

Ah Pek, valve clearance, do you know what the numbers mean? Cos I met Ah Chong from Planet earlier and while paying he show me some numbers:

 

Before valve clearance: 240243**** someething like that

After valve clearance: 3023102**** you get the picture. Haha.

 

Basically what is done during valve clearance?

 

Anyways, Ah Chong is a really friendly and funny guy. The oil coming out of the hole was not caused by the gasket! My 4 OWS Iridium plugs were not tightened by the previous mech from ** properly. Ah Chong was hurling expletives everywhere sia. Haha. Say if the plugs come out halfway, Liao!

 

Changed to NGK plugs. Changed the hardened gasket just in case. Valve clearance. Damage: $220.

 

Oh yeah, after valve clearance, really SHIOK man! Bikes which have never done valve clearance before, should try it! Anyway, without asking, Ah Chong also helped me to fix my stuck throttle. Dunno how he did it. He didn't mention it also. Haha. Now throttle snaps back into place when released, like a charm!

 

Great experience overall.

[Winners]

Huh??? You can see for yourself: everywhere ERP, everywhere Bus Lanes. This island is only good for youngsters to make fast money, not for the average retiree. It'll be a struggle to make ends meet at the end of the day. Even your CPF, they also want to control and limit the amount due to you like a hospital's drip-feed. Sianz lah brother.

 

Sorry, slightly off-topic, but I can't help venting my anger at the gahmen.

 

Ah Pek, see, just not long before I said the above, now:

 

ERP rates in CBD to go up, 5 new gantries added

By Asha Popatlal, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 17 June 2008 1925 hrs

 

SINGAPORE: About half of existing ERP gantries islandwide will see their rates increase from 7 July.

The electronic road pricing (ERP) rates for 32 of 65 gantries will increase by between 50 cents and $2. The gantries are primarily in the Central Business District (CBD) and Orchard Road.

Five new ERP gantries along the Singapore River will also be activated on 7 July.

Traffic in the CBD is slowing down, says the Land Transport Authority (LTA). So in January, as part of its Master Plan, LTA came up with a new way to measure speed.

It is called the 85th percentile method and this is when motorists experience smooth traffic at least 85 percent of the time on roads that have ERP gantries.

Another new LTA initiative is that ERP rate increases will be higher because, LTA says, motorists are less sensitive to the existing rate structure.

Also, ERP operating hours in the CBD will be extended by one hour on weekdays - from 7pm to 8pm - while gantries in the Orchard Road cordon will start an hour earlier on Saturdays, at 11 am.

To reduce congestion further, LTA is putting in five new gantries along the Singapore River.

This essentially divides the CBD into two parts - the predominantly shopping-commercial district around the Bugis-Marina area and the office-based areas in Robinson Road.

LTA hopes that these gantries, which run from Eu Tong Sen Street to Fullerton Road, will cut down on what they call "through traffic".

"The gantries along the Singapore River will deal with traffic passing through. They (motorists using the roads) are not destined for that part of the city but merely passing through to get to other parts of Singapore. If we can discourage some of these trips from city roads, traffic levels on these roads will become better," said LTA's chief engineer for transportation, Dr Chin Kian Keong.

Currently, a third of all traffic in the area is what LTA calls "through traffic" and LTA hopes to cut this by half, with the new ERP gantries.

Five of these gantries will operate from Mondays to Fridays from 6pm to 8pm daily. Two of them will operate in the day on Saturdays.

More changes may be coming up.

In November, LTA will again use its new criteria to review gantry rates within and up to the outer cordon.

And in February next year, LTA will look at all other gantries islandwide.

The question many motorists may have is "why the rate increases now?", considering that there is a freeze on all government fees till the end of the year.

The Transport Ministry says things like the ERP rates are excluded from the freeze and that traffic congestion, left unchecked, will have a negative effect on the economy. - CNA/ir

 

I think at the next election, I expect to see some changes. Our northern neighbour had already done it, so we should also try it out and see for ourselves.

 

Bloody gahmen, increase everything on us, take our monies and then invest in those ang mo companies like Merrill Lynch, Citibank, UBS, etc and lose Billions of dollars now.

[Ah Pek]

Sorry, slightly off-topic, but I can't help venting my anger at the gahmen.

 

Ah Pek, see, just not long before I said the above, now:

 

ERP rates in CBD to go up, 5 new gantries added

By Asha Popatlal, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 17 June 2008 1925 hrs

SINGAPORE: About half of existing ERP gantries islandwide will see their rates increase from 7 July.

The electronic road pricing (ERP) rates for 32 of 65 gantries will increase by between 50 cents and $2. The gantries are primarily in the Central Business District (CBD) and Orchard Road.

Five new ERP gantries along the Singapore River will also be activated on 7 July.

Traffic in the CBD is slowing down, says the Land Transport Authority (LTA). So in January, as part of its Master Plan, LTA came up with a new way to measure speed.

It is called the 85th percentile method and this is when motorists experience smooth traffic at least 85 percent of the time on roads that have ERP gantries.

Another new LTA initiative is that ERP rate increases will be higher because, LTA says, motorists are less sensitive to the existing rate structure.

Also, ERP operating hours in the CBD will be extended by one hour on weekdays - from 7pm to 8pm - while gantries in the Orchard Road cordon will start an hour earlier on Saturdays, at 11 am.

To reduce congestion further, LTA is putting in five new gantries along the Singapore River.

This essentially divides the CBD into two parts - the predominantly shopping-commercial district around the Bugis-Marina area and the office-based areas in Robinson Road.

LTA hopes that these gantries, which run from Eu Tong Sen Street to Fullerton Road, will cut down on what they call "through traffic".

"The gantries along the Singapore River will deal with traffic passing through. They (motorists using the roads) are not destined for that part of the city but merely passing through to get to other parts of Singapore. If we can discourage some of these trips from city roads, traffic levels on these roads will become better," said LTA's chief engineer for transportation, Dr Chin Kian Keong.

Currently, a third of all traffic in the area is what LTA calls "through traffic" and LTA hopes to cut this by half, with the new ERP gantries.

Five of these gantries will operate from Mondays to Fridays from 6pm to 8pm daily. Two of them will operate in the day on Saturdays.

More changes may be coming up.

In November, LTA will again use its new criteria to review gantry rates within and up to the outer cordon.

And in February next year, LTA will look at all other gantries islandwide.

The question many motorists may have is "why the rate increases now?", considering that there is a freeze on all government fees till the end of the year.

The Transport Ministry says things like the ERP rates are excluded from the freeze and that traffic congestion, left unchecked, will have a negative effect on the economy. - CNA/ir

 

I think at the next election, I expect to see some changes. Our northern neighbour had already done it, so we should also try it out and see for ourselves.

 

Bloody gahmen, increase everything on us, take our monies and then invest in those ang mo companies like Merrill Lynch, Citibank, UBS, etc and lose Billions of dollars now.

 

Wah!!..Winners...I think you need to call a high level meeting with the LTA management and make sure the Senior Minister of Transportation and Communications are invited.

 

Either you live with it as long as you are Singaporean or run away from it and call home else well. If you are one of the policy maker and ERP was your baby ..I think you think otherwise. There are a lot they see that we don't I guess.

[Ah Pek]

Ah Pek, valve clearance, do you know what the numbers mean? Cos I met Ah Chong from Planet earlier and while paying he show me some numbers:

 

Before valve clearance: 240243**** someething like that

After valve clearance: 3023102**** you get the picture. Haha.

 

Basically what is done during valve clearance?

 

Anyways, Ah Chong is a really friendly and funny guy. The oil coming out of the hole was not caused by the gasket! My 4 OWS Iridium plugs were not tightened by the previous mech from ** properly. Ah Chong was hurling expletives everywhere sia. Haha. Say if the plugs come out halfway, Liao!

 

Changed to NGK plugs. Changed the hardened gasket just in case. Valve clearance. Damage: $220.

 

Oh yeah, after valve clearance, really SHIOK man! Bikes which have never done valve clearance before, should try it! Anyway, without asking, Ah Chong also helped me to fix my stuck throttle. Dunno how he did it. He didn't mention it also. Haha. Now throttle snaps back into place when released, like a charm!

 

Great experience overall.

 

>>"valve clearance, do you know what the numbers mean?...show me some numbers:

 

Before valve clearance: 240243**** someething like that

After valve clearance: 3023102**** you get the picture. Haha.

 

Basically what is done during valve clearance?"

 

Its all about Valve clearance..the sitting of valve and the gap necessary for carbon to sit. I think your valve was not grind in this case with regards to the numbers. I should think so he replaced your shims and that has to be done (shim replacement) once overhead camshaft is taken out.

 

In brief as I can..the size of the new shim has to accomodate your current valve clearance.

 

If the valve clearance was less than specified, subtract the measured clearance from the specified clearance then deduct the result from the original shim thickness.

 

For example:

 

Sample calculation - inlet valve clearance too small

Clearance measured (A) - 0.08 mm Specified clearance (B) -0.16 mm (0.13 to

0.19 mm)

 

Difference (B - A) - 0.08 mm Shim thickness fitted - 2.475 mm

 

Correct shim thickness required is 2.475 -0.08 = 2.395 mm

 

If the required replacement shim is greater than 2.800 mm (the largest available), the valve is probably not seating correctly due to a build-up of carbon deposits and should be checked and cleaned or resurfaced as required.

 

If the valve clearance was greater then specified, subtract the specified clearance

from the measured clearance, and add the result to the thickness of the original shim.

 

For example:

 

Sample calculation - exhaust valve clearance too large

Clearance measured (A) - 0.35 mm Specified clearance (B) - 0.22 mm (0.19 to 0.25 mm)

 

Difference (A - B) -0.13 mm Shim thickness fitted - 1.975 mm Correct shim thickness required is 1.975 + 0.13 = 2.105 mm

 

Well... is it?...I think you should be bright enough to understand. If you don't...just pay $$$s and feel shiok shiok on your ride lah. Know so much oso know use

[I_Ride_A_Bike]

The oil coming out of the hole was not caused by the gasket! My 4 OWS Iridium plugs were not tightened by the previous mech from ** properly.

 

hey mind if u share which shop actually did that?

dun mind u pm also can if it hurts the audience..

 

keep monitoring your 'oil flowing out of hole' problem ya..

[AsHaRiE]

Sigh... Singapore is hopeless.. I'd never defend this country nor feel proud of its so called "success" by squeezing dry its citizen's $$ to overly pay for ministerial positions.. tax here... fine there.. now erp?? wad next..

 

they might as well tax us for breathing the Singapore air..

[Guest Eason]

guys anyone try disconnecting the battery while u are away from sg about 2week... will it damage the battery or other parts of the bike ?

[Ah Pek]

guys anyone try disconnecting the battery while u are away from sg about 2week... will it damage the battery or other parts of the bike ?

 

No...should be okay..but your battery may need to be recharged. If you do not have a charger or workshop near by...just connect it back and push start the bike and go ride a few km round the block...assuming your battery is in good conditions.

[smiley73]

Originally Posted by krafadaw

The oil coming out of the hole was not caused by the gasket! My 4 OWS Iridium plugs were not tightened by the previous mech from ** properly.

 

Totally unacceptable kind of job they done. I experience with them b4. nearly screw up for me 2, instead change 4 OWS plug they change 3 only heng heng i spoted it. from that day onward i know the mech std and never go back again althought they sell cheap package oil. due to improper handling bike damage cost more then cheap package.

 

hey mind if u share which shop actually did that?

dun mind u pm also can if it hurts the audience..

 

keep monitoring your 'oil flowing out of hole' problem ya..

 

I guess that shop near ubi spore post where everyone promoting that shop is good

[joajas]

Originally Posted by krafadaw

The oil coming out of the hole was not caused by the gasket! My 4 OWS Iridium plugs were not tightened by the previous mech from ** properly.

 

Totally unacceptable kind of job they done. I experience with them b4. nearly screw up for me 2, instead change 4 OWS plug they change 3 only heng heng i spoted it. from that day onward i know the mech std and never go back again althought they sell cheap package oil. bike damage cost more then cheap oil.

 

 

 

I guess that shop near ubi spore post where everyone promoting that shop is good

 

I know which shop you talking about.

[edition]

I know which shop you talking about.

 

yeah we know which shop he is tokin abt lol

[Ah Pek]

I know which shop you talking about.

 

Wah!..I hope I open shop next to it don't get mistaken mannn! So many shop near the Sing_post one leh.

 

Must go there and asked which shop can do no tighten or missed out one plug service one leh

[joajas]

Ah Pek, need your expertise again.

 

I read from the forum that S4 after Project Big 1 all have power restriction.

 

Do you know anywhere I can find information on how the power/speed/rev is limited and information on how the restriction is removed??

 

I know it can be done by the shops, but what I am interested in is the theory and method on how our bikes are restricted and how they can be derestricted.

 

Thanks :cheeky:

 

I tried searching on the net, but can't find any info.