[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[Ah Pek]

hey guys! i've got a question... how do i know if i need to replace the tensioner?

 

Tensioner?...since when S4 got tensioner...unless your's a dirt bike version...LOL! Anyway...you meant the rubber thingy that runs along your frontal swing arm near the front sprocket?..the cushion slippers preventing the chain from hitting the swingarm frame? If that's the case..wait till its damage lor. Want to change anytime oso can but that thing and workmanship is not cheap. If you always lube your chain well and clean that area of sand..its last you at least 10 years and above.

[Burnout69]

Wahhh!!!!....your smiley never wear helmet ride bike Buang iszit!!!???..looks terrible leh.

 

HUH!?..."noe wer to get illegal endcans??"..why you want "illegal" ones?...your Ver S is oso illegal iszit...like that your license must be illegal on oso lah...alamak! Bro...join me and live a fruitful legal live lah..aiyoh..after next time want to get married..wife oso illegal one

 

hahaha y ah? coz illegal ones so better mah more attractive.. hahahaha

[Ah Pek]

hahaha y ah? coz illegal ones so better mah more attractive.. hahahaha

 

"..coz illegal ones so better mah more attractive.."..see_meh?..summon oso better and very very attractive.. somemore got points awarded

[scarr]

Tensioner?...since when S4 got tensioner...unless your's a dirt bike version...LOL! Anyway...you meant the rubber thingy that runs along your frontal swing arm near the front sprocket?..the cushion slippers preventing the chain from hitting the swingarm frame? If that's the case..wait till its damage lor. Want to change anytime oso can but that thing and workmanship is not cheap. If you always lube your chain well and clean that area of sand..its last you at least 10 years and above.

 

S4 no tensioner? Oops. Haha. anyway no i wasn't referring to the cushion slippers. i was actually thinking of the timing chain and it's tensioner if it has any. haha. when do i replace them?

[Ah Pek]

S4 no tensioner? Oops. Haha. anyway no i wasn't referring to the cushion slippers. i was actually thinking of the timing chain and it's tensioner if it has any. haha. when do i replace them?

 

You don't normally have to replace it till you hear mild "clackling" or "soft metal slapping" noise in you mid engine block..likely the slipper tensioner is out of specs alreday. As far as any so called "fixed period" (from Km usage to period in months)for anything that need replacement..take it as only a guide bekuz..most wear and tear or subjected to how the bike is used and its environment being use.

[scarr]

thanks ah pek for the insight. there's a very very mild clacking noise currently. would it be detrimental in any way to my engine if i don't replace it anytime soon? anyway, i saw this service package at a motodiam offering replacement of valve seals, servicing inlet valves and replacement and balancing of shims. i'm kinda baffled by these terms so may i check how do i know if i need all these servicing shims, valves, etc. thanks!

[Ah Pek]

thanks ah pek for the insight. there's a very very mild clacking noise currently. would it be detrimental in any way to my engine if i don't replace it anytime soon? anyway, i saw this service package at a motodiam offering replacement of valve seals, servicing inlet valves and replacement and balancing of shims. i'm kinda baffled by these terms so may i check how do i know if i need all these servicing shims, valves, etc. thanks!

 

I think you are referring to the "Top Overhaul" servcing package as adverise here in the SBF..at $650 I think. You item you listed is really incomplete..like why only inllet valves..my question is what about oulet valves? Oso..never heard of "Shim balancing":sian: ..normally we have them replace. The valves should be grind and clearance readjustable with new change of shims.

 

Its too much to type in writing so I have included an image of a exploded top end showing what's normally is invovle in an top overhaul. As for your timing chain tensional..you might as well have the chain replace as well as the tensioner. You love it all when its done well.

 

 

 

 

[ATTACH]68899[/ATTACH]

[smiley73]

Usually how much fork oil req for PB1?

[scarr]

I think you are referring to the "Top Overhaul" servcing package as adverise here in the SBF..at $650 I think. You item you listed is really incomplete..like why only inllet valves..my question is what about oulet valves? Oso..never heard of "Shim balancing":sian: ..normally we have them replace. The valves should be grind and clearance readjustable with new change of shims.

 

Its too much to type in writing so I have included an image of a exploded top end showing what's normally is invovle in an top overhaul. As for your timing chain tensional..you might as well have the chain replace as well as the tensioner. You love it all when its done well.

 

Thanks again ah pek. the image really gave me a clearer picture of the insides of the engine block. yup i was actually referring to their advertisement. so i was kinda just listing some of the stuff they offered under their top overhaul service. anyway, any suggestions as to which motodiam i should go for an overhaul?

[Ah Pek]

Usually how much fork oil req for PB1?

 

"Usually" ? ...don't know lah but real specification got lah for our range of Ah-Pek S4...

 

Oil : 10W

 

Volume : 450 cc to 490cc

[smiley73]

"Usually" ? ...don't know lah but real specification got lah for our range of Ah-Pek S4...

 

Oil : 10W

 

Volume : 450 cc to 490cc

 

thanks got it....

[Ah Pek]

Thanks again ah pek. the image really gave me a clearer picture of the insides of the engine block. yup i was actually referring to their advertisement. so i was kinda just listing some of the stuff they offered under their top overhaul service. anyway, any suggestions as to which motodiam i should go for an overhaul?

 

I tot you are taking the package? If it does prove popular..have to look see look see..the mech there by now should be so familar that they can do with 1.5 eys close leh...LOL!

 

Which part of SG r u residing?

[MrQuan]

guys .. wannna ask u all .. wat brand n kind of battery are u all using .. im using tanaki ..

[MrQuan]

I tot you are taking the package? If it does prove popular..have to look see look see..the mech there by now should be so familar that they can do with 1.5 eys close leh...LOL!

 

Which part of SG r u residing?

 

if lets say i got the tak tak sound .. izzit possible to juz change the tensioner onli ? n hw much does the tensioner cost ?

[Ah Pek]

guys .. wannna ask u all .. wat brand n kind of battery are u all using .. im using tanaki ..

 

Myself been using Yusa 8A/h as what it originally comes with. Will only changed if there is a "Gel" type and must be from Japan. Saw one brand from Thailand in a car show two uears ago..but never heard of the brand.

 

if anyone knows of those gel type..let me know please

[Ah Pek]

if lets say i got the tak tak sound .. izzit possible to juz change the tensioner onli ? n hw much does the tensioner cost ?

 

Can but cost don't know. Lots of parts to remove to access it.

[scarr]

I tot you are taking the package? If it does prove popular..have to look see look see..the mech there by now should be so familar that they can do with 1.5 eys close leh...LOL!

 

Which part of SG r u residing?

 

nope i haven't taken the package. i'm still considering and getting a second opinion from you guys here about doing a top overhaul. Anw, i'm residing in the east side.

[JuZ_FZ6]

Anyone in need of the tank????

 

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn201/MK8ParnZ/HONDA%20CB400SF%20Version%20S/DSC00011.jpg

 

Selling the tank only w/o cork and cap @ S$ 80.00.... Original paintwork too.

 

There is still petrol inside the tank to keep the interior in good condition.

[wubefrub]

nope i haven't taken the package. i'm still considering and getting a second opinion from you guys here about doing a top overhaul. Anw, i'm residing in the east side.

 

bro i did a top overhaul recently. my block was leaking eo and so, after much contemplating, i took a $450 package at a nearby tiam (i stay bedok). i cant really remember what the whole package consist of ah, but got change o-ring, timing chain, re-did the gasket, coolant, blahblahblah. i dunno if i got ripped off or not coz i never really checked other shops, but the job done was pretty good. so, no complains from me. anyway, my bike has been serviced at the shop for the past few years, so yeah.

[sypxchocolate]

guys need help .. recently i realise that when i clutch in i find it very hard to change the gear.. for example when i move off in gear 1 clutch in cant kick to gear 2 .. i need to rev in gear 1 fast clutch in change then realese. wat is the problem there ..

 

thanks for your help in advance

[Ah Pek]

guys need help .. recently i realise that when i clutch in i find it very hard to change the gear.. for example when i move off in gear 1 clutch in cant kick to gear 2 .. i need to rev in gear 1 fast clutch in change then realese. wat is the problem there ..

 

thanks for your help in advance

 

Likely your clutch cable is out of clutch pull due to normal wear..did you tried adjusting your clutch cable play? Fine adjustment is at clutch level and the major one is at lower right.

 

If so and problem still exist..could be your eo or clutch assembly getting worn soon...but do the clutch adjsutment first if there is any play left.

[stRobe]

Anyone changed their wheel bearings at unique before? The price quoted is higher than other shops. Front ($28) Rear ($38). Is the quality better??

[sypxchocolate]

Likely your clutch cable is out of clutch pull due to normal wear..did you tried adjusting your clutch cable play? Fine adjustment is at clutch level and the major one is at lower right.

 

If so and problem still exist..could be your eo or clutch assembly getting worn soon...but do the clutch adjsutment first if there is any play left.

 

still have free play adjusted and is much better le .. previously is cause i like the bitting point to be near the bars .. but seem like the clutch don like it no choice haha

[Ah Pek]

still have free play adjusted and is much better le .. previously is cause i like the bitting point to be near the bars .. but seem like the clutch don like it no choice haha

 

" i like the bitting point to be near the bars .. " ...do you know that you rae wearing out your clutch plates while you ride if the biting point do not have alowance?...haaa....x3!

[scarr]

bro i did a top overhaul recently. my block was leaking eo and so, after much contemplating, i took a $450 package at a nearby tiam (i stay bedok). i cant really remember what the whole package consist of ah, but got change o-ring, timing chain, re-did the gasket, coolant, blahblahblah. i dunno if i got ripped off or not coz i never really checked other shops, but the job done was pretty good. so, no complains from me. anyway, my bike has been serviced at the shop for the past few years, so yeah.

 

What's the name of the motodiam and where is it located? Thought maybe i could go check the place out.