[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[MrQuan]

Three possibilities:

 

1) Fuel too rich (check if spark plug is moist or veru black).

2) Too lean (insufficient going in)

3) Air filter dirty (inlet air nxture insuffiecient)

 

Best solution: have the carb retuned. if you just done recently, the only other possiblity is that the spark is ot strong enough and could be anything from ignition coil to the cable..but check the condition of your cable and its plug head first.

 

i juz tune my carb oso .. changed batt coil , batt n rectifier ..

[Ah Pek]

i juz tune my carb oso .. changed batt coil , batt n rectifier ..

 

Ok..in this case, I can only suspect the iginition coil and cable. The spark may be weak due to deterioration. You have not mentioned how old your bike is. One way to test for weak spark plug is o have it out of with the cable attach to it and touch the body ground to the engine block and crank to see the spark. If its weak , can tell by small sparking without much blue colour arcing. If this is the case, the problem lies from the spark plug cap all the from caple or can be anyone of the iginition coil (the two bulky like cyclinder back colour thing under your fuel tank. One each has a cable to two cyclinder each.

 

 

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[summerrain]

Three possibilities:

 

1) Fuel too rich (check if spark plug is moist or veru black).

2) Too lean (insufficient going in)

3) Air filter dirty (inlet air nxture insuffiecient)

 

Best solution: have the carb retuned. if you just done recently, the only other possiblity is that the spark is ot strong enough and could be anything from ignition coil to the cable..but check the condition of your cable and its plug head first.

 

Hi ah Pek,

 

any quick tips on how to get to spark plugs? or check air filter?

 

... can we try to tune carb?

probably to much to ask right?

 

mine also hard to start in the morning.. but once warm, all OK!

 

thanks!

[summerrain]

btw, going to give my bike a nice wash and wax this weekend... love my bike!

[Ah Pek]

Hi ah Pek,

 

any quick tips on how to get to spark plugs? or check air filter?

 

... can we try to tune carb?

probably to much to ask right?

 

mine also hard to start in the morning.. but once warm, all OK!

 

thanks!

 

Not sure what you meant by "get to spark plug"?..its just below the fuel tank.

 

Not sure what S4 model you have but for PB1 and ver S/R..its on your left hand side midway just behind your carbs in a plastic cyclinder housing secured by 3 size 10 or 8 hex nuts.

 

Tunning carbs?..its better you spend the $80 and have it done. If you really want..can tell you how..but you get a "vaccum gauge" first and think of a way to keep your fuel running the bike without the fuel tank

[norishimu]

wah, detailed pic eh Ah Pek..

thanks for sharing the info..

anyway since we r on that topic..

ignition coil n plug cable would cost roughly??

[Ah Pek]

ignition coil n plug cable would cost roughly??

 

Sorry Norishmu...no idea at all. Never had mine changed before.

[norishimu]

its ok bro.. hehe..

thanks anyway..

[MrQuan]

yea thx ah pek for the detail pic .. thx ! n my bike is 11 yrs old already .. lol

[Ah Pek]

yea thx ah pek for the detail pic .. thx ! n my bike is 11 yrs old already .. lol

 

Arh!...11 yrs old...same as mine. Problems like you encountering is quite normal for old horse like ours..but so far mine been ok.

[MrQuan]

Arh!...11 yrs old...same as mine. Problems like you encountering is quite normal for old horse like ours..but so far mine been ok.

 

lol n i have spend 900+ juz on wear n tear parts .. arghh

[Ah Pek]

lol n i have spend 900+ juz on wear n tear parts .. arghh

 

That's quite reasonably ok lah. I spend more because can't stand the sight of deterioration..meter and spotted rust, faded black area item oso all changed during my period of ownership. feel the pain lah but everyday blink blink clean and well waxed makes your pain goes away

[tim17]

sigh... feels that my rear showa like soft... beside rebuild... what else can I do?? mech say got a bit leaking... buy a new 1 also very expensive... (((

[Dkoh]

sigh... feels that my rear showa like soft... beside rebuild... what else can I do?? mech say got a bit leaking... buy a new 1 also very expensive... (((

 

u might wanna check the garage sales.... there's a guy selling his showa suspension at $350... Its a good buy.

[tim17]

u might wanna check the garage sales.... there's a guy selling his showa suspension at $350... Its a good buy.

 

$350 le... pain pain... (((

 

can notice that if i pillion my friend... and go over hum... must go very slow... else the bottom of my bike sure hit the hum (((

[Dkoh]

$350 le... pain pain... (((

 

can notice that if i pillion my friend... and go over hum... must go very slow... else the bottom of my bike sure hit the hum (((

 

If thats the case i think u better go slow slow when crossing hum lor... cause even u send the suspension for repair also quite expensive...

 

Or else dun pillion la... HEHEHE!!!

[Ah Pek]

$350 le... pain pain... (((

 

can notice that if i pillion my friend... and go over hum... must go very slow... else the bottom of my bike sure hit the hum (((

 

Go to Teck Thye and get it refurnished for $240 with extra Stainless steel (I think) spring spacer for better rebound. I did mine for $300 (coming 7 years ago..) and till date still as soild.

 

better do it..otherwise like someone here I know (one side leak) delay_delay and one day tong_pang gf go over bump kenna one solid "Kock" sound..and the other leak while the previously leaking one damper rod end kenna koyak!

 

the only other trust worthy at a budget of $500 is KYB..at least it's a race proven brand for many years.

[Ah Pek]

u might wanna check the garage sales.... there's a guy selling his showa suspension at $350... Its a good buy.

hard to tell if its good condition...if its good like half new...ok lah, otherwise after fixing..sof_soft makes you Lan_Lan...kenna go refurbishing and another $240 gone

[tim17]

Go to Teck Thye and get it refurnished for $240 with extra Stainless steel (I think) spring spacer for better rebound. I did mine for $300 (coming 7 years ago..) and till date still as soild.

 

better do it..otherwise like someone here I know (one side leak) delay_delay and one day tong_pang gf go over bump kenna one solid "Kock" sound..and the other leak while the previously leaking one damper rod end kenna koyak!

 

the only other trust worthy at a budget of $500 is KYB..at least it's a race proven brand for many years.

 

teck thye at where??? $240?? take how long to do it??

[joajas]

teck thye at where??? $240?? take how long to do it??

 

Teck Thye Company

12 Braddell Road S(359900

tel: 62803138

62826564 (Workshop)

 

Contact person: David Ong (98178791)

 

 

Should take about 1-2 hours.

[summerrain]

Not sure what you meant by "get to spark plug"?..its just below the fuel tank.

 

Not sure what S4 model you have but for PB1 and ver S/R..its on your left hand side midway just behind your carbs in a plastic cyclinder housing secured by 3 size 10 or 8 hex nuts.

 

Tunning carbs?..its better you spend the $80 and have it done. If you really want..can tell you how..but you get a "vaccum gauge" first and think of a way to keep your fuel running the bike without the fuel tank

 

thanks for the advice Ah Pek... will spend the $$$ to get carb tuned.

[Ah Pek]

thanks for the advice Ah Pek... will spend the $$$ to get carb tuned.

 

Most welcome summerrain (hmmm..Singapore got summer meh!?...Seow_rain got lah..soo_kard_soo_kard come one). Yah mannn!...like your signature.."'''not into fancy stuff, just want to maintain bike in safe riding condition.. safe rider!

 

[gunshead]

Mr. Sifu/Guru Ah Pek,

 

I saw your bike picture

The most beautiful , elegant, classic and shiny bike in Singapore

Boon Siew should award you for giving good image to Honda the power of Dreams.

 

I keep the pictures in my profile for daily enthusistic look

 

anyway, I cannot buy bike now since I am saving bit by bit cause I intend to buy cash .

 

it will take very long time to achieve few thousand

 

so guys out there if got cash enough can buy the bike from mr.guru

 

one question to you :

has the bike been to north siam, u travel with box, no wobbling at speed 195km/h?

[summerrain]

Most welcome summerrain (hmmm..Singapore got summer meh!?...Seow_rain got lah..soo_kard_soo_kard come one). Yah mannn!...like your signature.."'''not into fancy stuff, just want to maintain bike in safe riding condition.. safe rider!

 

 

Singapore always hot what... like summer lah.

 

and like you say, sometimes suka-suka rain...

 

summer+rain = hot+wet

[Ah Pek]

The most beautiful , elegant, classic and shiny bike in Singapore

Boon Siew should award you for giving good image to Honda the power of Dreams.

I keep the pictures in my profile for daily enthusistic look

 

Wah!...aiyooah!..thank you ..but almost of a heart attach...

 

has the bike been to north siam,

 

Nope...

 

u travel with box, no wobbling at speed 195km/h?

 

Nope ..