VFR 800

[Maverick77]

Sorry, this sounds cheapo... But can I jus change the front right to the front left and then replace the front right brake pad with a brand new one?

 

I do use the rear brake quite a fair bit... In fact I'll use it especially when i slow down to a halt instead of the front...

[sexyh]

Hi guys, passing my VFR800 Vtec 2003 over to a gentleman for S$13K for everything. THanks to all for their interest and support. Moving on to another bike, heavier i think. Cheers to all you guys and ride safe ya!

[vfrT]

Originally posted by Maverick77@January 11, 2007 11:38 pm

Sorry, this sounds cheapo... But can I jus change the front right to the front left and then replace the front right brake pad with a brand new one?

 

I do use the rear brake quite a fair bit... In fact I'll use it especially when i slow down to a halt instead of the front...

NO. Not two diff set on the front calipers.

 

It is not advisable, even dangerous, to use two differently worn pads on the front calipers as the different rate of bite from both calipers will give 'false' feedback on the actual rate of bite.

 

Having said that, I would slap myself and say that I've done this before. But ONLY swapping the partially used, BUT with good wear-life-remaining FRONT pads to the REAR.

 

A set of good pads like Ferodo Platinum or SBS Ceramic is available from LAB for only $22(or ~$24 depending on who ask; DIY installation). Why risk for such low $ outlay. Of course if you prefer EBC or the bigger advert name it would cost much more. I am now trying EBC HH after using Ferodo and SBS - and found no significant diff in street use. In rainy days it gets a bit grabby -perhaps due to accumulated brake dust. I did not exprience this with F & S brand.

[none]

Originally posted by vfrT@January 13, 2007 10:12 am

A set of good pads like Ferodo Platinum or SBS Ceramic is available from LAB for only $22(or ~$24 depending on who ask; DIY installation). Why risk for such low $ outlay. Of course if you prefer EBC or the bigger advert name it would cost much more. I am now trying EBC HH after using Ferodo and SBS - and found no significant diff in street use. In rainy days it gets a bit grabby -perhaps due to accumulated brake dust. I did not exprience this with F & S brand.

Yeah true, I feel that the SBS is almost as good as EBC HH.

[sexyh]

Sorry seems silly to ask, but does any VFR800 2002 and older version bike owner wants to change their hadlebars to a slightly lower version. I have a blackbird and wants to exchange the handlebars with you. They are both compatible cos both are 43mm type. Only that the VFR is taller than the BB. Looking to top up with S$50 for the exhange, 1 for 1.

[Friday13]

Originally posted by sexyh@January 12, 2007 07:26 pm

Hi guys, passing my VFR800 Vtec 2003 over to a gentleman for S$13K for everything. THanks to all for their interest and support. Moving on to another bike, heavier i think. Cheers to all you guys and ride safe ya!

Sob...Sob... There goes my panniers... Anyway, I have already placed my orders for a new set which will arrive in Mid Feb...

[Friday13]

Originally posted by vfrT@January 13, 2007 10:12 am

NO. Not two diff set on the front calipers.

 

It is not advisable, even dangerous, to use two differently worn pads on the front calipers as the different rate of bite from both calipers will give 'false' feedback on the actual rate of bite.

 

Having said that, I would slap myself and say that I've done this before. But ONLY swapping the partially used, BUT with good wear-life-remaining FRONT pads to the REAR.

 

A set of good pads like Ferodo Platinum or SBS Ceramic is available from LAB for only $22(or ~$24 depending on who ask; DIY installation). Why risk for such low $ outlay. Of course if you prefer EBC or the bigger advert name it would cost much more. I am now trying EBC HH after using Ferodo and SBS - and found no significant diff in street use. In rainy days it gets a bit grabby -perhaps due to accumulated brake dust. I did not exprience this with F & S brand.

So which is to mean that if I always use only front brakes, this scenario of uneven wear will not happen?

[vfrT]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 15, 2007 09:52 am

So which is to mean that if I always use only front brakes, this scenario of uneven wear will not happen?

Yes; provided your front calipers are working fine.

 

From yr tone, it appears that yr front calipers may not be working in unison ie the front left pistons might not be retracting freely, thus causing some drag and hence the abnormal wear.

[Maverick77]

Originally posted by vfrT@January 13, 2007 10:12 am

NO. Not two diff set on the front calipers.

 

It is not advisable, even dangerous, to use two differently worn pads on the front calipers as the different rate of bite from both calipers will give 'false' feedback on the actual rate of bite.

 

Having said that, I would slap myself and say that I've done this before. But ONLY swapping the partially used, BUT with good wear-life-remaining FRONT pads to the REAR.

 

A set of good pads like Ferodo Platinum or SBS Ceramic is available from LAB for only $22(or ~$24 depending on who ask; DIY installation). Why risk for such low $ outlay. Of course if you prefer EBC or the bigger advert name it would cost much more. I am now trying EBC HH after using Ferodo and SBS - and found no significant diff in street use. In rainy days it gets a bit grabby -perhaps due to accumulated brake dust. I did not exprience this with F & S brand.

Thanks for the sharing and advice...

[afterburner999]

Hi guys..

 

I'm a VFR800 vtec ABS owner and quite new to this forum...

 

Due to my limited knowledge of accessories/parts, i have a few questions for the more experienced guys here...

 

Is there a nose wheel steering damper available for this bike? and do any of you knnow where to get it? I only know of Ohlins but that's for the rear... any recommendations?

 

Also can any of you guys suggest where I can get a rear wheel huggger for my bike?

 

And regarding the fuel, I'm still not sure about the reserves? does the reserve come in when the blinking starts or when everything on fuel display is finished...

 

Thanks guys...

[vfrT]

Originally posted by afterburner999@January 17, 2007 04:31 pm

And regarding the fuel, I'm still not sure about the reserves? does the reserve come in when the blinking starts or when everything on fuel display is finished...

 

Thanks guys...

My 5th gen (non-vtec) has 4L (measured) in the tank when the last bar blinking starts

[vfrT]

Originally posted by vfrT@January 10, 2007 04:08 pm

Hamzter is right. Its the LBS.

 

When the front brake is squeezed, the two outer pistons of the front brake are activated and via a second master cylinder and a PCV valve the middle caliper of the rear brake engages. Apply the rear brake and the two outside rear caliper pistons and the middle pistons of the front calipers engage.

 

You must have been using your rear brakes mucho.

Dear all

 

My apologies for an error in my reply.

 

I have corrected the sentence

"Apply the rear brake and the two outside rear caliper pistons and the middle pistons of the front left caliper engage. "

 

TO

 

"Apply the rear brake and the two outside rear caliper pistons and the middle pistons of the front calipers engage."

 

 

In this regard the symptom associated with the uneven/higher front left calipers pad wear is likely due to problems associated with that caliper rather than excessive rear brake use.

 

[Friday13]

Mine covers 300KM from full tank til the blink. Dunno if it is the correct consumption or not? So one mentioned to me that his VTEC can cover 350 until it blinks. 50km is quite a lot.

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 18, 2007 03:53 pm

Mine covers 300KM from full tank til the blink. Dunno if it is the correct consumption or not? So one mentioned to me that his VTEC can cover 350 until it blinks. 50km is quite a lot.

my best was

 

310km start to blink

100km more i pushed my bike

 

usually i get is

280km start blink

70km more its dry

 

The laser exdhaust didn't seem to consume much extra petrol.. in fact it runs a little leaner than stock pipes...

[none]

Originally posted by vfrT@January 17, 2007 10:34 pm

Dear all

 

My apologies for an error in my reply.

 

I have corrected the sentence

"Apply the rear brake and the two outside rear caliper pistons and the middle pistons of the front left caliper engage. "

 

TO

 

"Apply the rear brake and the two outside rear caliper pistons and the middle pistons of the front calipers engage."

 

 

In this regard the symptom associated with the uneven/higher front left calipers pad wear is likely due to problems associated with that caliper rather than excessive rear brake use.

 

VfrT

 

Your initial statement is correct, why did you amend it?

See the picture I had extracted from the service manual.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/en0n/vfr/lbs.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/en0n/vfr/lbs2.jpg

 

Also I had self service my brake pistons and change brake pads a few months ago.

I had noticed that when the rear brake is stepped on, piston 2 will push out faster than piston 1. Only after piston 2 has met resistance, then piston 1 will push out.

 

When front brake is engage.

The order will be 5,4,3.

 

I wonder why not all the pistons will push out together at the same time and whether this is the correct operation.

[Friday13]

Originally posted by HamsterZ@January 18, 2007 04:47 pm

my best was

 

310km start to blink

100km more i pushed my bike

 

usually i get is

280km start blink

70km more its dry

 

The laser exdhaust didn't seem to consume much extra petrol.. in fact it runs a little leaner than stock pipes...

I realised that if I try to ride slower at 3000revs to 4000revs, my darling drinks more petrol. But if I take it up to >4000revs and below 5500revs, she runs well with lesser fuel intake. Anyone can advise me on this? Is it becos of the V engine that gear discipline must be observed more strictly?

[afterburner999]

I think mine consumes somewhat like Hamsterz...approx 290 before blink.. dunno how much after the blink cos I usually top up then... but I'll go with the figures..

 

And also it does feel more fuel efficient riding in the 5000rpm zone...

 

Thanks champs..

 

B.t.w... any suggestions on the on the nose wheel steering damper and rear wheel hugger....

 

Cheers..

[Friday13]

Originally posted by afterburner999@January 19, 2007 10:15 am

I think mine consumes somewhat like Hamsterz...approx 290 before blink.. dunno how much after the blink cos I usually top up then... but I'll go with the figures..

 

And also it does feel more fuel efficient riding in the 5000rpm zone...

 

Thanks champs..

 

B.t.w... any suggestions on the on the nose wheel steering damper and rear wheel hugger....

 

Cheers..

Hi Bro, why you need a damper? I have started to take my darling down on the curves and put her high in the revs during my exits and never once feel her slapping. Unlike my previous Yammie R1, always giving me a wakeup slap when I put too much twist on the throttle.

For hugger wise, maybe you can order from Daren in Regina. He told me Puig has it for VFR.

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 19, 2007 09:49 am

I realised that if I try to ride slower at 3000revs to 4000revs, my darling drinks more petrol. But if I take it up to >4000revs and below 5500revs, she runs well with lesser fuel intake. Anyone can advise me on this? Is it becos of the V engine that gear discipline must be observed more strictly?

yesh your observation is good. Its not about V-engine. It all about the gear ratio, weigh of bike, and ower delivery. Actually in more layman terms, every bike has its own "cruising speed" range.

 

Low rpm generally means less petrol is consumed to spin crankshaft slower, thus less torque n power. That is in theory, and with zero load.

 

here's an extreme scenerio. Now if you were to be at 20kmh, using a tall gear (like 5th?) at 2k rpm to move the bike, this particular gear at this speed will not be able to move the bike properly, thus although consuming less petrol... cover even less mileage. So when km/litres... the figures means what you have observed. Vice versa would apply for high speed but low gear scenerios=waste petrol! but u get to your destination faster though...

 

Beware.. travelling at like anywhere past 7k rpm for tours will give you somewhat 14km/l. Abt 10k rpm will give you abt 11km/l ... Thats what i experienced though.. andshe ain't feather weight to push to the next kisok... sob sob:cry:

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 19, 2007 11:16 am

Hi Bro, why you need a damper? I have started to take my darling down on the curves and put her high in the revs during my exits and never once feel her slapping. Unlike my previous Yammie R1, always giving me a wakeup slap when I put too much twist on the throttle.

For hugger wise, maybe you can order from Daren in Regina. He told me Puig has it for VFR.

Neither did the VFR slap for my case.. only the rear wobbles a little with panniers at about 220~255kmh.

 

I think the main reason that i tried to figure out is :-

 

1) due to the heavy front end as compared to the sportbikes. the other reason is due to the torque produced by the VFR is mush less then a pure sports bike.

 

2)More torque = more front end lift=more chances of zero ground contact=more wobbles.

 

3) the rake angle of the VFR is not as steep as the sportsbikes... which makes steering less agile, which inherently also less prone to shakes...

 

You are right The R1 slaps like no ones business when you gun the throttle. I always kanah with the old old '00 version. Think my wrist not very sensitive .. so hard to control a lit bike's throttle...

[floppy]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 19, 2007 11:16 am

For hugger wise, maybe you can order from Daren in Regina. He told me Puig has it for VFR.

really?

asking cos puig website doesn't list the hugger for vfr800

only ones i know of are redfox, nws and harris performance.

[sfowner]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 19, 2007 09:49 am

I realised that if I try to ride slower at 3000revs to 4000revs, my darling drinks more petrol. But if I take it up to >4000revs and below 5500revs, she runs well with lesser fuel intake. Anyone can advise me on this? Is it becos of the V engine that gear discipline must be observed more strictly?

Cant quite comment on teh consumption, but I feel the bike is most responsive around the 5k rpm zone, to the point sometimes i just ride at 5th gear on the singapore highways. cos 6th gear will drop it down to like 4k, unless i break the speed limit a lot. haha

[inzaghi_75]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 19, 2007 11:16 am

Hi Bro, why you need a damper? I have started to take my darling down on the curves and put her high in the revs during my exits and never once feel her slapping. Unlike my previous Yammie R1, always giving me a wakeup slap when I put too much twist on the throttle.

For hugger wise, maybe you can order from Daren in Regina. He told me Puig has it for VFR.

HamsterZ is right, this bike is inherently stable as due to the shallower rake angle, however, the rear suspension does not cope well with bumps and dips on fast sweepers.

 

 

I usually get 290 before the it darns to blink and 70++km bef it sputters n dies. Had to push her to petrol station twice, its a real workout.

 

 

Anyone tired Michelin Pilot Powers? My Z6 is nearing EOL.

 

Guys Fyi, check out this Japanese TP riding test. Would be fun if we can get to play ROV's VFR like that. check out the mini power slide at 13:30

[inzaghi_75]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 19, 2007 11:16 am

Hi Bro, why you need a damper? I have started to take my darling down on the curves and put her high in the revs during my exits and never once feel her slapping. Unlike my previous Yammie R1, always giving me a wakeup slap when I put too much twist on the throttle.

For hugger wise, maybe you can order from Daren in Regina. He told me Puig has it for VFR.

HamsterZ is right, this bike is inherently stable as due to the shallower rake angle, however, the rear suspension does not cope well with bumps and dips on fast sweepers.

 

 

I usually get 290 before the it darns to blink and 70++km bef it sputters n dies. Had to push her to petrol station twice, its a real workout.

 

 

Anyone tired Michelin Pilot Powers? My Z6 is nearing EOL.

 

Guys Fyi, check out this Japanese TP riding test. Would be fun if we can get to play ROV's VFR like that. check out the mini power slide at 13:30

 

http://www.police-ch.jp/asx/M18112001.asx

[Constipated Face]

Originally posted by inzaghi_75@January 21, 2007 05:02 pm

HamsterZ is right, this bike is inherently stable as due to the shallower rake angle, however, the rear suspension does not cope well with bumps and dips on fast sweepers.

 

 

I usually get 290 before the it darns to blink and 70++km bef it sputters n dies. Had to push her to petrol station twice, its a real workout.

 

 

Anyone tired Michelin Pilot Powers? My Z6 is nearing EOL.

 

Guys Fyi, check out this Japanese TP riding test. Would be fun if we can get to play ROV's VFR like that. check out the mini power slide at 13:30

 

http://www.police-ch.jp/asx/M18112001.asx

WAH LAN EH!!! DAMN FIERCE!!!

 

They didn't even wear riding armour! Only an open-face helmet, uniform, and riding boots!

 

Sheer madness!

 

Who cares about VFR800 VTEC? I want a VFR800P!!!