[Discussion] Technical - Fuel Consumption

[tiku]

hmm seems like u tried many things... i tried mag21 (anti fric add on in eo), tunning carb only... im thinking to buy either one more 2T or 5T to try try.. for me the 3T does treat the petrol, i can feel the smoothness one day later after i tried pumping spc 95(all the while im pumping caltex).. im trying to test see which petrol give me a better FC... i think u can try rewitec, some add on in eo to rebuild the engine de... i have nt tried yet heard can improve FC....

 

btw jus wondering wat makes u think tt changing chain n sprocket can improve??how many does ur sprocket have?

[luckystar]

Maybe becoz I am pumping shell 95? Coz they told me if I am using V-power, I will nt see much difference.

[tiku]

Maybe becoz I am pumping shell 95? Coz they told me if I am using V-power, I will nt see much difference.

 

since u are doing so, u should feel the diff isnt it?? for me caltax 95 i cant feel the diff but spc 95 i can feel the diff.. spc seems rough but some say its gd..

[blackness]

hmm seems like u tried many things... i tried mag21 (anti fric add on in eo), tunning carb only... im thinking to buy either one more 2T or 5T to try try.. for me the 3T does treat the petrol, i can feel the smoothness one day later after i tried pumping spc 95(all the while im pumping caltex).. im trying to test see which petrol give me a better FC... i think u can try rewitec, some add on in eo to rebuild the engine de... i have nt tried yet heard can improve FC....

 

btw jus wondering wat makes u think tt changing chain n sprocket can improve??how many does ur sprocket have?

 

Everybody says: You gotta try it yourself to know the effects. I try so many things, all no effect. must be my bike problematic. i really give up on "gimmicks" that can improve FC. if every type of gimmick claims to improve FC by up to 30km per tank, and if someone adds all the different types, i think one tank can go up to 600km liao.

 

maybe someone do all the below and monitor FC. anymore to add?

- nano ball

- rewitec

- broquet

- revtec ?

- x1r

- K n N

- carb wash + tune

 

i changed chain + sprocket mainly because theres a weird grinding sensation for certain part of the chain. another reason is cause i heard some bros at forum mentioning worn out chain+sprocket might mean more friction = more power loss = more Fuel consumed to travel the same distance.

Edited July 23, 2010 by blackness

[tiku]

Everybody says: You gotta try it yourself to know the effects. I try so many things, all no effect. must be my bike problematic. i really give up on "gimmicks" that can improve FC. if every type of gimmick claims to improve FC by up to 30km per tank, and if someone adds all the different types, i think one tank can go up to 600km liao.

 

maybe someone do all the below and monitor FC. anymore to add?

- nano ball

- rewitec

- broquet

- revtec ?

- x1r

- K n N

- carb wash + tune

 

i changed chain + sprocket mainly because theres a weird grinding sensation for certain part of the chain. another reason is cause i heard some bros at forum mentioning worn out chain+sprocket might mean more friction = more power loss = more Fuel consumed to travel the same distance.

 

 

icic.. mind sharing ur riding habit? as well as type of fuel? how bout ur avg fc? wat version bike u riding? sprocket n chain for me as long as nt worn to the limit no need to change,

[blackness]

icic.. mind sharing ur riding habit? as well as type of fuel? how bout ur avg fc? wat version bike u riding? sprocket n chain for me as long as nt worn to the limit no need to change,

 

Riding SPEC 2, for the past 9months, i always record down how much i topped. so far on this bike, as of the last topup, i travelled 8949km, i topped 37 times. Might not be super accurate, but i always try to top up till the same level.

 

average FC is 19.7km/l

best FC ever is 22.4km/l

worst FC ever is 18.1km/l

 

starting i use esso 95, but changed to caltax 95 for the past few mths.

 

riding style mostly short distance stop and go traffic, quite a lot of gear shifting, hardly on expressway, vtec on occasionally only (too much traffic lights, not much chance to on. only on expressways at gear 6)

 

this week just started work, travelling to and from Bukit batok to simei (60km per day). will monitor whether FC gets better with 90% expressway riding

[tiku]

Riding SPEC 2, for the past 9months, i always record down how much i topped. so far on this bike, as of the last topup, i travelled 8949km, i topped 37 times. Might not be super accurate, but i always try to top up till the same level.

 

average FC is 19.7km/l

best FC ever is 22.4km/l

worst FC ever is 18.1km/l

 

starting i use esso 95, but changed to caltax 95 for the past few mths.

 

riding style mostly short distance stop and go traffic, quite a lot of gear shifting, hardly on expressway, vtec on occasionally only (too much traffic lights, not much chance to on. only on expressways at gear 6)

 

this week just started work, travelling to and from Bukit batok to simei (60km per day). will monitor whether FC gets better with 90% expressway riding

 

icic.. ur fc can hit 22km/l.. mine cant.. max 21km/l... i think caltax too smooth liao.. y nt try spc fuel? for me i felt caltax instead smoothness every pump... even wif the 3t, still no diff the following day...but spc i pump , cui... wif the thingy in my tank, the follwing day, the fuel turns smooth... since u don feel the smoothness, try a louya fuel to see if u can feel the smoothness?do updated ur fc.. since new route, i guess u can achieve a better fc..

[blackness]

after 1 week of work with 90% expressway riding, my latest FC is 21.6km/L

Riding style plays the biggest part in FC. gimmicks doesn't work for my bike. lol

[wayne_udomin]

i ride spec 2 too, hmm, what do you mean by v-tec doesn't open in final gear? 100km/hr is already over 6300rpm, vtec is activated.

 

im oso ride spec II...then i diy a vtec indicator to monitor when its open ...now conform at 6500 rpm or top gear 105 km/hr all the way cruising unless rpm drop below 6500rpm...correct me if im wrong..

[chawanmushi]

riding a spec II, i get approximately 22km/l of esso 5000

[FrdAuZ]

I got bout 20km/L... before broquet...

 

Just pump full tank.. Now wana moniter with broquet, i happy cos that thing makes the engine smoother And better response, will be happier if increase mileage (its suppose to do). Hehe...

[wayne_udomin]

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[alexbong]

Latest found. My Spec III, 16.5L clocked 411.5km with 1.5L remaining fuel in reserve. means 24.9km/Litre. quite good liao i think. hahaha. seldom open VTEC helps too.

[bluesurfer]

can i ask? what is a good mileage for a pb1? cos my fuel gauge not very zhun. my first pump when i got the bike was 11l when the meter shows reserve.

[sihan0110]

can i ask? what is a good mileage for a pb1? cos my fuel gauge not very zhun. my first pump when i got the bike was 11l when the meter shows reserve.

 

anything above 22 or 23 should be good

[exige]

Riding SPEC 2, for the past 9months, i always record down how much i topped. so far on this bike, as of the last topup, i travelled 8949km, i topped 37 times. Might not be super accurate, but i always try to top up till the same level.

 

average FC is 19.7km/l

best FC ever is 22.4km/l

worst FC ever is 18.1km/l

 

starting i use esso 95, but changed to caltax 95 for the past few mths.

 

riding style mostly short distance stop and go traffic, quite a lot of gear shifting, hardly on expressway, vtec on occasionally only (too much traffic lights, not much chance to on. only on expressways at gear 6)

 

this week just started work, travelling to and from Bukit batok to simei (60km per day). will monitor whether FC gets better with 90% expressway riding

 

I also record down my mileage and amount pumped every time (except when I pump in Malaysia or during touring). Rode my SuperSpec1 for ~7mths, topped up ~36times. My stats:

 

Best: 24.26km/L

Worst: 20.42km/L

 

Petrol used: About 70% of the time Shell vPower, other times SPC 95/98.

I used Shell only because of the proximity to my place. (Along the way back home)

 

Use vtec only occasionally too.

[ResmeN]

Hi Guys,

 

Who here has put in a broquet fuel charger in their tanks and if so did you notice improved fuel mileage? If so how much and would you recommend this product as I am in 2 minds on whether to purchase it or not.

 

Also if this is such a revolutionary product as claimed wouldn't you think the cars/bike manufacturers would put it in their new products to improve fuel consumption?

 

My concern has been confirmed with the last 2 posts in below thread:

 

http://forums.sgclub.com/singapore/broquet_fuel_charger_45004_2.html

 

And some more feedback which isn't very conclusive:

 

http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/50588

Edited September 20, 2010 by ResmeN
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[World Misanthropy]

I have put before. No effect. Not even fuel consumption. Personal opinion though. So dun fire me. Hahaha...

[exige]

I have put before. No effect. Not even fuel consumption. Personal opinion though. So dun fire me. Hahaha...

 

Oh my... You've got worse results than me. I've also fixed broquet (on my ex-car) before.

At least I got some psychological effect. (LoL.. Just joking.. )

 

PS: No offense to other broquet users, but it just doesn't have any much noticeable effect on my fuel consumption / acceleration smoothness / etc.

[wER]

mine spec 1..20km/ltr for 8mths le =/ sad..maybe time for carb washing

[cheongsteron]

i think chain and sprocket does play a part too...i just changed to 45....previous fc was like 20 to 21km/l....now 24km/l....

[totoro78]

i think chain and sprocket does play a part too...i just changed to 45....previous fc was like 20 to 21km/l....now 24km/l....

 

Original is what size?

[blackness]

Oh my... You've got worse results than me. I've also fixed broquet (on my ex-car) before.

At least I got some psychological effect. (LoL.. Just joking.. )

 

PS: No offense to other broquet users, but it just doesn't have any much noticeable effect on my fuel consumption / acceleration smoothness / etc.

 

i have broquet in my tank. as recommended by a popular bikeshop, its 3T. totally absolutely completely 0% difference. lol

 

just an update on my recent fuel consumption:

My last 10 pumps, with a total distance of 2928 km. 90% expressway riding. 60km/day.

Worst FC :20.96km/l.

Best FC 22.99km/l.

Out of these 10pumps, 7pumps were over 22km/L. =D

 

conclusion: long distance and few stop-go traffics will give you good FC. Fewer gear changes play a part too. i'm sure this kind of riding style should give better FC than mine. maybe my old bike needs some other servicing/tuning etc. but I'm happy with it. haha

[hElleVer]

yea.. broquet for me does not improve my fuel consumption at all. i didnt notice any difference.. this is my own point of view.. no offense to other broquet happy customers.

[khaigugu]

Jeezz... before and after using broquet, my fc and bike performance like same only. Like waste money liao.