Aprilia RSV 1000 compared to Ducati 999

[sidestep1984]

Originally posted by bktan@Nov 30 2004, 09:01 AM

http://www.aprilia.com/portale/eng/mag_articolo.phtml?id=751

 

STRAIGHT FROM MCN: THE RSV IS THE BEST ITALIAN SPORT BIKE!

 

1. Aprilia Rsv 1000 R

2. Ducati 749S

3. Benelli Tornado

4. Aprilia Rsv 1000 R Factory

5. Ducati 999

6. MV Agusta F4 1000

7. Ducati 749R

8. Ducati 999S

9. MV Agusta F4 1000 Ago

10. Benelli Tornado RS

 

enough said

how much does a 749s cost?

[clubhead]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Nov 30 2004, 04:34 AM

It's a love it or hate it thingy.......rode one before????

Yes, I rode a 999S for about 15km in Singapore, mostly expressway and roads with little traffic.

 

Brakes are fantastic but then again, I've only got my bike for comparison. Don't like the tall first gear though.

 

My wrist hurt at the end of it. The heat coming from the engine onto my inner thighs were pretty bad.

 

I dare not think what would happen if kenna caught in traffic. Yes, a lot of people argue that these bikes are not meant to be ridden in traffic. True but unless you can tow it down to the track and back, it's going to be quite unbearable going up/down PG. Sepang sure die one.

 

I'm not going to maintain 2 'nice' bikes, one for street, one for track. So in the end, decided against getting it. There are equally good bikes that are much more livable day to day, like a K3. But of course the exclusitivity will be lacking

 

The Aprilla Tuono Racing is a good choice though. Combining day to day practicality, track worthy with exclusitivity But $42 is a big inhibitor...

[tatteredwing]

Originally posted by nE0@Nov 26 2004, 01:45 AM

The new base version of the 999 has the old 999R engine (140hp), while the Aprilla is still using the ageing TL-R engine, about 120+ hp.

 

I think if you want value for money, get the Aprilla RSV-Factory. At 32k, its incredibly good value for money compared to the equivalent Ducati 999S.

dude this post is very old but that's really very wrong info u have there . might want to review it

[Guest miss_bikey]

For those who is still spelling Aprilla, pls change.. Its Aprilia...

 

From the spelling, I'll pronouce as AH-PREE-LIA and NOT AH-PREE-LAH...

I might be wrong though cos i dun speak italian.

[Guest nE0]

Originally posted by tatteredwing@Jan 7 2005, 08:29 PM

dude this post is very old but that's really very wrong info u have there . might want to review it

Whoops, seems like the Aprilia Factory makes 138hp at the crank.

 

And sorry about the spelling error, I myself didn't notice it!

[lacrimosae]

I think the Ducati's stacked nob-jobs look like a design afterthought.

 

I prefer the old look with the narrow, horizontal headlights.

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by miss_bikey@Jan 7 2005, 09:47 PM

For those who is still spelling Aprilla, pls change.. Its Aprilia...

 

From the spelling, I'll pronouce as AH-PREE-LIA and NOT AH-PREE-LAH...

I might be wrong though cos i dun speak italian.

indeed.... aprilia iz the sg's most mispronounced biking word....

[GerardSantaCruz]

wertz the diff btw rsv1000r n rsv1000r factory?

[sidestep1984]

Originally posted by GerardSantaCruz@Jan 13 2005, 02:50 PM

wertz the diff btw rsv1000r n rsv1000r factory?

the factory has all the uber posh parts....the r version is the basic version

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by sidestep1984@Jan 13 2005, 10:11 PM

the factory has all the uber posh parts....the r version is the basic version

i c... thx alot...

[Cyanide14]

Hiz!

 

Are Aprilia RSVs easily available in S'pore?

Got any 2nd hand ones?

Thanks!

[-Ace-]

Originally posted by nE0@January 08, 2005 05:11 am

Whoops, seems like the Aprilia Factory makes 138hp at the crank.

 

And sorry about the spelling error, I myself didn't notice it!

Hey Neo, can i know what bike are you riding now?

[Guest nE0]

Clicky

[banes]

Originally posted by nE0@January 22, 2007 01:50 am

Clicky

HI neo,is the clutch slave cylinder same for both bikes as mine is leaking(rsv).Need to top up.where is the best place to order.Thanks

[Sub Zero]

Originally posted by banes@February 02, 2007 03:45 pm

HI neo,is the clutch slave cylinder same for both bikes as mine is leaking(rsv).Need to top up.where is the best place to order.Thanks

Sir,

 

i think you can order through Alvin fm Motivation.. He's your best bet.. Mah also i think can.. but will be much longer.. Or you can try Shah at Biketech 21..

[rotary79]

Originally posted by mika14@February 02, 2005 01:21 am

Hiz!

 

Are Aprilia RSVs easily available in S'pore?

Got any 2nd hand ones?

Thanks!

Sold mine.. And I think EXCEL MOTOR got 1 still up for sale.. good luck

 

Aprilia RSV factory will be a much worth buying bike compare to Ducati 999s in term of Pricing and accessories.

 

3 cheers for Aprilia !!!

[antonioshabirto]

Originally posted by bktan@November 30, 2004 09:01 am

http://www.aprilia.com/portale/eng/mag_articolo.phtml?id=751

 

STRAIGHT FROM MCN: THE RSV IS THE BEST ITALIAN SPORT BIKE!

 

1. Aprilia Rsv 1000 R

2. Ducati 749S

3. Benelli Tornado

4. Aprilia Rsv 1000 R Factory

5. Ducati 999

6. MV Agusta F4 1000

7. Ducati 749R

8. Ducati 999S

9. MV Agusta F4 1000 Ago

10. Benelli Tornado RS

 

enough said

this is the most stupidest Stats......

 

They surely do not know facts n fictions

[redders]

how abt ducati 1098.. mind consider that...

anyway is 1098 on the way to sg??

[RC51ajk13]

Originally posted by clubhead@November 28, 2004 11:35 pm

A 999S costs something like $45-48k the last I remembered. The RSV Factory gives much much better value at $32-$35k with it's radial brakes, OZ wheels and full Ohlins setup.

 

Exactly why Ducati is so much sought after is precisely because of it's price. It's always so expensive so exclusitivity is guaranteed. It's a good bike yes, but a stock CBR1000 and R1 is anytime as good or even better. That has been what I've been reading in the British bike magazines anyway.

 

When one has money, it's no longer about having the fastest bike. It's about having brand name, about being exclusive, about having an attitude, etc, etc. Very emotional things. If you paid $45k for a bike, electrical faults are intepreted as the bike having an 'attitude' rather than a problem. And if it can't start after leaving it for 2 weeks, same thing, the bike has an attitude. You adapt and accept the bike's behaviour. Never mind if your wrist feels like being broken 10 times over when you ride a Ducati > half hour in traffic. Never mind if the heat from the radiator cooks your balls as well. It's a Ducati

 

Anyway, I hope Ducati riders here don't take offence. As I said, it's a very emotional thing.

 

For me, given the choice, I will choose the RSV. Personal taste. I feel you're just paying way too much premium for a Ducati with equivilant performance and exclusitivity....

Just sharing my view on these V-Twin. Dukes' valve system is different from those of aprilla and jap bikes. Its more similar to peumetic valve of a formula one engine, ie it allows the rev to be higher without running the risk of valve jamming/stuck.

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by RC51ajk13@April 09, 2007 07:55 pm

Just sharing my view on these V-Twin. Dukes' valve system is different from those of aprilla and jap bikes. Its more similar to peumetic valve of a formula one engine, ie it allows the rev to be higher without running the risk of valve jamming/stuck.

Juz curious, how does that works? My old duke is a revvy happy machine. But i dun quite understand the mechanics behind it.

[Guest nE0]

'Normal' valves are held closed using powerful springs, and opened using camshafts.

 

Imagine a valve moving up and down 100 times a second. It requires a very powerful spring to close the valve fast enough, before the piston rises. Modern engines are built to such close tolerences that when the engine is taken apart, theres actually an imprint of the valves on the piston crown itself, four clean semi circles where theres less carbon because the valves are almost touching the piston crown. If the valve cannot be closed fast enough (valve float), the piston will hit the valve on the upstroke. At 10,000rpms, that slightest touch will simply destroy the engine.

 

Such powerful springs require more energy to overcome the spring tension to open the valves.

 

Back in the early 80s (or 70s, not sure when), when metal technology was not as good, bike engines could not rev very high because the valve springs could not close the valves fast enough. Ducati overcame this by using the Desmo valve system, by using cam lobes to open and close the valves, thus they are able to achieve higher RPMs safely, without fear of valve float.

 

So, Ducatis were the king back then, out reving and outpowering everyone else. But as new alloys were found, valve springs could be made much stronger and thus engines were able to rev higher, thus the current 180+hp/litre superbikes we see on the roads today.

 

Ducati chose to stay true to their Desmo tradition, which didn't seem to pay off for road bikes due to the nature of V-twins, but paid off for their MotoGP team. The Desmo valve system enabled safer and more precise valve operation at 18,000+rpms in the newer 800cc motoGP bikes.

 

Thats why poor Rossi got overtaken left right centre at the long straight.

[antonioshabirto]

'Normal' valves are held closed using powerful springs, and opened using camshafts.

 

Imagine a valve moving up and down 100 times a second. It requires a very powerful spring to close the valve fast enough, before the piston rises. Modern engines are built to such close tolerences that when the engine is taken apart, theres actually an imprint of the valves on the piston crown itself, four clean semi circles where theres less carbon because the valves are almost touching the piston crown. If the valve cannot be closed fast enough (valve float), the piston will hit the valve on the upstroke. At 10,000rpms, that slightest touch will simply destroy the engine.

 

Such powerful springs require more energy to overcome the spring tension to open the valves.

 

Back in the early 80s (or 70s, not sure when), when metal technology was not as good, bike engines could not rev very high because the valve springs could not close the valves fast enough. Ducati overcame this by using the Desmo valve system, by using cam lobes to open and close the valves, thus they are able to achieve higher RPMs safely, without fear of valve float.

 

So, Ducatis were the king back then, out reving and outpowering everyone else. But as new alloys were found, valve springs could be made much stronger and thus engines were able to rev higher, thus the current 180+hp/litre superbikes we see on the roads today.

 

Ducati chose to stay true to their Desmo tradition, which didn't seem to pay off for road bikes due to the nature of V-twins, but paid off for their MotoGP team. The Desmo valve system enabled safer and more precise valve operation at 18,000+rpms in the newer 800cc motoGP bikes.

 

Thats why poor Rossi got overtaken left right centre at the long straight.

 

I like e last statement ...... which is the Facts lots of R1 Riders cant accept the fact

[dankriscurly]

hi all

who's selling Aprilia RSV1000R??

any1 riding it at the moment? care to share or even meetup? would love to hear yr stories...as might be getting it..

well just need to know more like common problems or things to look out for b4 commit!