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[hit.man]

You only live once. Let nothing stop you from getting your dream. Cuz when you are on your death bed, LTA is not gonna come and say " sorry bro, I didn't let you fulfil your dream when you are alive but be sure I'll burn one big harley for you to ride down there...."

 

Life is a b1tcH and then you die so f*** the world and let's get high!

 

 

The latest discussion is stopping me from getting my dream potato ):

[aRcHeR]

latest news, the akra for sporty should be approved shortly after CNY, fingers crossed...

in principle all is okay but LTA has requested akra dealer to bring a demo bike with the exos for the final approval.

 

the funny thing is why is LTA asking akra dealer to bring in a demo bike for final approval when they(LTA) dun even have an testing center for the emission. hear the sound also shiok?

[hit.man]

They are just f***king retards trying to act smart and intelligent. They know sh1t!

 

 

the funny thing is why is LTA asking akra dealer to bring in a demo bike for final approval when they(LTA) dun even have an testing center for the emission. hear the sound also shiok?

[NormalAspirated]

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Edited March 31, 2012 by NormalAspirated

[deckard]

You only live once. Let nothing stop you from getting your dream. Cuz when you are on your death bed, LTA is not gonna come and say " sorry bro, I didn't let you fulfil your dream when you are alive but be sure I'll burn one big harley for you to ride down there...."

 

Life is a b1tcH and then you die so f*** the world and let's get high!

 

like this with thumbs ups

[deckard]

Is a norm ... and they are pretty well known for not taking risk.

They are like birds in the cage, just follow procedures and waiting for month end pays and year end bonus.

They basically just cruise through their living with a ballness and brain dead way of life.

Sad case that leads us with lots of frustration.

Common phase ... I am just doing my job.

How stupiid can that sound ?!

 

civil servant just sit there earn lots of money wor

 

just imagine top civil servant, director level sit there balonglong earn 20 k a month

 

becum minister 15k a month.

 

still wan to cut? which stupid civil servant wan to serve?

[NormalAspirated]

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Edited March 31, 2012 by NormalAspirated

[mak]

Hi bro James,

 

Thanks for the compliment. My sentiments are inspired by your long but heartfelt post earlier. That night, I was so touched and at the same time saddened by your narration that I had to do something. I'm not as passionate as some of you guys, but yes owning a Harley has always been my dream. I've owned from the Honda Custom 125, Phantom, Scramblers like XR200, Scooters like X8 and X9 and Silverwing, Super4 and Fazer 600. In summary, I love the journeys I take on my bikes. It's not about the destination. I do own a car, but let my wife drive it most of the time. You can call me a biking enthusiast.

 

I recently bought a Harley FLD Switchback 2012. My love for the Harley started about 5 years ago when I was on business trip in San Francisco. I managed to rent a Road King and took a rood trip from SF to Monterrey along the pacific highway. Man.... that was a dream! I always was fascinated by the Harley.... but bro.. riding with the pacific ocean view... dudes... that was the bomb.

 

Anyway.... did research to see what I can do with my Switchback... in short, in Singapore nada.... just some cosmetics... I am very satisfied with the performance and look of my Harley don't get me wrong... but the roar???? hmmm... I think a Japanese cruiser can sound and run better... mine's a 1690 cc 103 engine. I almost bought the V&H 2-1 exhaust from Twins but after reading the posts here... I had to exchange that for a rack and backrest instead (ooops, shouldn't put it here... from now on... I'm gonna be blacklisted by LTA and watched closely heheheh).

 

So I share your pain... in a lesser way.. but I do. I can live with what I have.. but imagine paying almost 40K for a dream that whimpers instead of roaring....

 

I just hope LTA allows us a forum to talk it out. I want to listen to what they have to say, but they really have to do something about this... We're in modern times man..

 

BTW.. look at the article below mine :Visibility boosters: Why the different rules?"... a car owner also complaining about double standards authorities have.. good that they put it all in the same day... Also today's NewPaper Pg4 also shedding some questions on LTA's operations... the VW car with supposed illegal plates and headlamp lenses.... Hope really LTA can come out to explain...

 

I don't post often... I read a lot... but in this matter..i'm with you. Anytime I can spare to talk on behalf of the group.. I will... I'm not a lawyer or politician.. just a regular IT guy.... but I feel that LTA are marginalizing riders as a whole with personal agendas, and lack of understanding.. they're just follow rules and convention.... And they really have to update their thinking and policies.... Lorries, trucks, taxis and other bikes... they sound louder and emit more smoke.... even the construction work outside my place and the buses and trucks cleaning the pavements in the morning are more irritating that our pipes... haiz...

 

And a word to HD Singapore... you guys are crap!!! You just sit in the showroom and do nothing... organize trips and rub elbows with the rich and famous... how about giving back to the rest of the Harley community where it matters man???!!!

 

Cheers bros....

 

Dian... aka FATBOY71

 

i will agree with the last sentance, the ppl in HD singapore is really useless, i was a ex harley owner before, it was thanks to them, i will try to avoid owning it

Edited January 17, 2012 by mak

[jamez]

Straits times forum today. Someone wrote in to say lta should continue enforcement against loud exhaust. That's why I say people have to self moderate n prevent these sort of complains. Too loud it's disturbing. Too soft is not fun. What stance do you think lta would take?

Anyway the writer did not understand Dian's remarks n took it out of context. We r not asking for thunder headers to be approved because that would b ridiculous. We r asking lta to b reasonable in approving stuff.

[jamez]

How the hell do I write in to st forums?

[jamez]

Nvm I found out how

[xcore]

Go for it James. Be the voice of this minority.

[Ecold]

Straits times forum today. Someone wrote in to say lta should continue enforcement against loud exhaust. That's why I say people have to self moderate n prevent these sort of complains. Too loud it's disturbing. Too soft is not fun. What stance do you think lta would take?

Anyway the writer did not understand Dian's remarks n took it out of context. We r not asking for thunder headers to be approved because that would b ridiculous. We r asking lta to b reasonable in approving stuff.

 

I have a vague memory that exhaust approval are based onteh decibels it churns out. Something like 106 is considered "legal". No?

[andyncc]

Straits times forum today. Someone wrote in to say lta should continue enforcement against loud exhaust. That's why I say people have to self moderate n prevent these sort of complains. Too loud it's disturbing. Too soft is not fun. What stance do you think lta would take?

Anyway the writer did not understand Dian's remarks n took it out of context. We r not asking for thunder headers to be approved because that would b ridiculous. We r asking lta to b reasonable in approving stuff.

 

 

Here is the link...

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/OnlineStory/STIStory_756271.html

 

factory bikes now emit a 'quieter' exhaust signature tune??? my ass!! it basically emit no noise at all!!!

Edited January 17, 2012 by andyncc

[andyncc]

I have a vague memory that exhaust approval are based onteh decibels it churns out. Something like 106 is considered "legal". No?

 

no...in sillypore..anything more than 99 decibels is consider illegal.

[Cougar_22]

Here is the link...

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/OnlineStory/STIStory_756271.html

 

factory bikes now emit a 'quieter' exhaust signature tune??? my ass!! it basically emit no noise at all!!!

 

Agreed with Andy......my ass too!!!! It's total worse than ***** sound......= no sound at all!!!!

 

one word....Cheesepie!!!!

 

I just Fcuk care them lah.......use whatever i like......!!!! That's my style!!!

[Cougar_22]

P U S S Y sound!!!

[jamez]

I have a vague memory that exhaust approval are based onteh decibels it churns out. Something like 106 is considered "legal". No?

I think it's 99db or 100db. But that's the thing, even though emissions n sound is within legal limits... It's still a hefty fine of 500 bucks if the pipes were not registered n officially approved. What gives?

[hit.man]

Knn.. Those dumb f*** always like to say how the loud exhaust wake up their baby. I say their baby's irritating cries every night irritates the hell out of me too. Can I call enforcement to shut their baby up? Their irritating cries can easily wake up an adult!

[Hydher]

Ever consired modding the stock exhaust? Fines are at $100 then

[jamez]

Ever consired modding the stock exhaust? Fines are at $100 then

 

You dreamer. It's still $500/-.

[jamez]

I would like to share an interesting article I found.

 

 

Loud Pipes' Cost: Harley-Davidson Tries to Quiet Motorcycle Noise

In a message posted on the Harley-Davidson website, CEO Jim McCaslin asks riders to recognize and consider the consequences of loud exhaust pipes. With this step, Harley returns to the forefront in addressing the issue of motorcycle noise. By February, 2009

 

Harley-Davidson is not simply... read full captionHarley-Davidson is not simply speaking out about the problems that illegal loud pipes cause for the entire motorcycling community. The Motor Company also offers street-legal accessory exhausts systems and exhaust components for its various motorcycle model families. An alternative to universally loud aftermarket exhausts, the Harley accessory pipes, such as the these 50-state-legal slip-ons for Dyna models, provide a legal option for riders who want to customize.In a message entitled "Something We Never Want to Lose" on his company's website, Harley-Davidson Motor Company President and CEO Jim McCaslin tackles the issue of motorcycle noise and the increasing backlash motorcycling is experiencing as the result of loud pipes. Citing a four-fold increase in negative media coverage during the last decade, bans on motorcycles in some communities, attempts to curtail major motorcycle events, anti-tamper legislation, and other limitations of freedom for motorcyclists as the result of complaints about loud pipes, McCaslin says, "We all, every Hog lovin' one of us, must do everything we can to protect our sport and keep it as strong as it is today."

 

This is the second stage of Harley-Davidson's campaign against loud exhaust pipes. Its initial effort last year was directed at and through dealers, with posters and literature that attempted to educate dealers and riders about the negative consequences of loud pipes. Harley-Davidson spokesman Paul James also told Motorcycle Cruiser that during the next few months Harley will cease shipments to dealers of racing exhaust systems that can be fitted to street models. We could no longer find any racing exhaust systems listed on the company's accessory website. However, Harley-Davidson still offers dozens of accessory exhaust systems that are street-legal (and therefore acceptably quiet), including for use in California.

Industry concern over the problem of loud exhaust pipes is nothing new. The American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) has long warned riders that attitudes shaped by complaints about loud pipes frequently compromise the AMA's efforts to battle anti-motorcycling legislation and regulation. That same concern was echoed by the Motorcycle Riders Foundation a few years ago when it adopted the AMA's stance against loud pipes. The Motorcycle Industry Council has conducted anti-noise campaigns for over 30 years.

These days, the loud motorcycle you hear roaring past is likely to be a modified Harley-Davidson. This is somewhat ironic because Harley was among the first motorcycle makers to tackle exhaust noise a century ago. In the early days of internal-combustion vehicles, many vehicles were annoyingly loud as delivered, but the threat of anti-motor-vehicle legislation soon had automakers fitting mufflers to their vehicles. As McCaslin's message points out, quieting motorcycle exhaust pipes posed greater difficulties because there is no room for a bulky muffler on a bike. However, Harley engineered an effective silencer, and the resulting bike became known as The Silent Gray fellow. Its relative quiet contributed to its reputation as an elegant, advanced machine and helped distinguish Harley-Davidson Motor Company from dozens of rival American motorcycle makers.

 

 

Changing to an aftermarket exhaust system has become almost a knee-jerk reaction for many cruiser buyers. However, unless labeled as meeting federal and state standards, all of these exhaust systems are illegal and virtually all are illegally loud. There are exceptions, such as systems offered by Harley that meet requirements for all 50 states or all states except California. Exhaust pipes are changed for a variety of reasons. One is the search for performance improvements, although, as McCaslin and the AMA point out, not all deliver—and some increase power in a portion of the power band while reducing it in others. Some motorcycle owners change exhaust pipes to personalize the appearance. And many who modify their bikes' exhaust systems simply want the noise, often for vanity's sake. Some motorcyclists profess to believe that "loud pipes save lives," although research tends to contradict that popular axiom. (Few of those who say they want exhaust noise for safety's sake use other means—such as brightly colored apparel—which have been proven effective.)

Harley-Davidson's current stance actually puts it on the cutting edge of corporate responsibility regarding exhaust-noise. It is the only company that has both taken an anti-noise stance and offers street-legal accessory exhaust systems as an alternative to loud aftermarket pipes. Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki have never offered nor endorsed accessory systems for their cruisers. Both Victory and Yamaha offer exhaust systems that are not illegally loud as "racing" modifications, though no effort is made to qualify customers by asking for racing credentials. You have to find and click on footnote notices on their sites to learn that that the systems are not legal for the street, and the disclaimer page on Yamaha's site was not working when we visited. Neither company offers legal accessory exhausts. We also asked Yamaha if it had any plans to follow Harley-Davidson's lead on this issue, but we had received no reply to our email a few days later.

As the leader in the cruiser market, Harley's public stance on loud exhaust pipes may finally signal a turning point for an issue that continues to put motorcyclists in a very bad light and prompts increasing calls for restrictions on motorcycles and motorcyclists. Though some riders will try to contend that their noise doesn't really bother anybody, that they have some sort of right to annoy everyone they ride past, or that their noise protects them, such arguments have to sound increasingly hollow when the biggest cruiser-motorcycle maker points out that they are actually risking all motorcyclists' freedoms and asks them to "think about the consequences our actions have on others, before others take action against us."

[deckard]

sound worst than super 4 with stock

[13x]

Hi guys, i just got myself a nightster and I'm loving it, but its sad to see all of this exhaust issues popping up.

 

anyways, i've got my bike used and its missing its original headers and exhaust interconnecting bracket, just wondering if any one here rides a nightster/iron that could help me with the part number for the bracket? couldn't get a fixed answer on google.

 

much appreciated and hope to ride with you guys soon

Edited January 18, 2012 by 13x

[stevy]

Hi bros and sis any place where I can get a best quality paint job for my whole Harley? Please advice everyone, thanks in advance