Kawasaki ZX10R Technicial Issue!

[speedtriple]

was quoted $26K+ for a new zx10r by looi yesterday. steep price for this monster man! any of you bought new?

[stsoh]

hi guys,

i read about alex31 accident http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/style_images/1/icon5.gif ordeal at zx10r forum, i do hope alex31 will have a speedy recovery.

[Alex31]

Originally posted by stsoh@Feb 12 2005, 11:07 PM

hi guys,

i read about alex31 accident http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/style_images/1/icon5.gif ordeal at zx10r forum, i do hope alex31 will have a speedy recovery.

Hi Stsoh,

 

Thanks for the link. I prefer to keep this low profile so I didn't link that to the local forum. The reason is that I dun want any unwanted comments. The other reason is that there are a few brothers in that forum who offered helps to rebuild my bike.

 

Btw, I am recovering fast & able to walk with only 1 clutches.

 

What's your nick over there?

[Alex31]

Originally posted by Ken@Jan 28 2005, 01:32 PM

Do u get pop pop sound when u engine brake now?

Yes Ken. I am getting louder pop single sound whenever I do hard de-acceralations & the only way to reduce it (I guess) is to remove Kleen Air Induction System. The other benefit is b/c of the weight reduction. I not sure if my model is equipped with this system.

 

Hope someone out here can comment.

[stsoh]

Originally posted by Alex31@Feb 12 2005, 11:59 PM

.....What's your nick over there?

same nick, only thing is tat i'm a sleeper.

did not reply any message there, have been reading since last year.

i downgraded to a 125 ever since riding ninja7r n still am a ninja fan.

very keen on zx10r n cbr1krr, contemplating on either one but stop short becos of both r new first generation design n age also a factor.

i would rather wait for second/third gen when most faults r rectified.

hope u get well soon, i have been in many accidents too n still up riding more passionately.

get well n don't give up riding.

[Alex31]

Originally posted by stsoh@Feb 13 2005, 12:36 AM

same nick, only thing is tat i'm a sleeper.

did not reply any message there, have been reading since last year.

i downgraded to a 125 ever since riding ninja7r n still am a ninja fan.

very keen on zx10r n cbr1krr, contemplating on either one but stop short becos of both r new first generation design n age also a factor.

i would rather wait for second/third gen when most faults r rectified.

hope u get well soon, i have been in many accidents too n still up riding more passionately.

get well n don't give up riding.

Hi stsoh,

 

Thanks for the words..... I need them badly but I see what can be done. Given another chance to get a litre class... I still will chose the ZX10R.

[Ken]

Get well soon Alex.

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

hello....

wonder how much is ZX10 insurances like?

went to use the ntuc online qoutation...

ZX10 inusurance seem to be very very high compare to others 1litres bike

[Ken]

Originally posted by Alex31@Feb 13 2005, 12:04 AM

Yes Ken. I am getting louder pop single sound whenever I do hard de-acceralations & the only way to reduce it (I guess) is to remove Kleen Air Induction System. The other benefit is b/c of the weight reduction. I not sure if my model is equipped with this system.

 

Hope someone out here can comment.

I solved it by adding a PC3.

[DGray]

Hi ZX10ers, i need some info from u all. Cause planning to change bike soon and a ZX10 is definitely for me. Does the stock bike comes with a steering damper? And who is the agent for Kawas? Add pls.

 

The exhaust system(end can) how many screws to unbolt(excluding the bracket)?One more thing, wat is tis 'servo' u all talking abt? Thanx a lot guys!

[stsoh]

SaNibOy buy first talk later. http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/style_images/1/icon6.gif

if u bother to read n interested u already have all ur answers.

 

1) no bike came with it, unless is a cbr1000rr.

 

2) kawa agent is evershine at sin min estate.

 

EverShine Auto Co.(1977) Pte Ltd.

176 Sin Ming Drive #01-21/22

Sin Ming AutoCare SINGAPORE 575721

TEL:(65)6453.5009

FAX:(65)6453.5010

 

3) exhaust pipe servo is first invented by yamaha n now used by most litre bike. improve low rpm torque using it's back pressure.

[DGray]

Originally posted by stsoh@Feb 14 2005, 04:36 PM

SaNibOy buy first talk later. http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/style_images/1/icon6.gif

if u bother to read n interested u already have all ur answers.

 

1) no bike came with it, unless is a cbr1000rr.

 

2) kawa agent is evershine at sin min estate.

 

EverShine Auto Co.(1977) Pte Ltd.

176 Sin Ming Drive #01-21/22

Sin Ming AutoCare SINGAPORE 575721

TEL:(65)6453.5009

FAX:(65)6453.5010

 

3) exhaust pipe servo is first invented by yamaha n now used by most litre bike. improve low rpm torque using it's back pressure.

Dun worry bro. I surely buy one. Only need to plan out wats my next accessories to buy. Here's my list;

 

1) Definitely crash mushrooms & rear hugger

2) Damper

3) *Race can* & PC

 

Tats y i wanted 2 know abt the race can as i already have one with 3 screws. Hope can fit and save $$$$$$......

 

And thanx for the info bro.

[Alex31]

Originally posted by Ken@Feb 14 2005, 03:24 AM

I solved it by adding a PC3.

Hi Ken,

 

Are you riding a ZX10R too?

[Alex31]

Originally posted by SaNibOy@Feb 15 2005, 03:53 AM

Dun worry bro. I surely buy one. Only need to plan out wats my next accessories to buy. Here's my list;

 

1) Definitely crash mushrooms & rear hugger

2) Damper

3) *Race can* & PC

 

Tats y i wanted 2 know abt the race can as i already have one with 3 screws. Hope can fit and save $$$$$$......

 

And thanx for the info bro.

Well let us know when you are getting & we can advise you on that.

 

Btw, I tot the 04 R1comes with a standard damper mounted below the triple clamp?

 

I guess the old race can may not be the correct diamension for the 10r.

 

For the sliders, you can either use the drilled-in or the off-set bracket.

[rvf7972]

no bike came with it, unless is a cbr1000rr

 

how abt the suzuka's , rsv, ducatis..

 

thought they all had a stock damper..

 

[rvf7972]

Originally posted by il4@Feb 13 2005, 12:57 PM

WOW....ya serious?

 

yeah kawa is a problematic bike for problematic riders..

 

:faint:

[stsoh]

Originally posted by rvf7972@Feb 15 2005, 07:09 PM

how abt the suzuka's , rsv, ducatis..

 

thought they all had a stock damper..

 

yeah, u r rite, with exception for italy bikes.

at their prices, it should have all the best equipments.

[CountDokoo]

I've been riding this bike since the 5th May 2004. Here's a personal bug report:

 

Vibration - If you're female and the handlebar was your vibrator, you would be having simulteneous multiple orgasms every single time you ride the bike. This bike vibrates ALOT. Initially unnoticable at short trips, you WILL experience this problem via numbness in your palms after a long ride. Installing aftermarket barends or a steering damper might help out. Do check your screws and holders now and then as vibration causes them to magically drop out. Honest.

 

Rattling - Complementary to vibration, there must be sound. Early model ZX10Rs rattle all the time in any gear from 1-4k rpm. This I understand is due to an incorrectly installed shim on the generator unit but is essentially harmless. Unless of course you consider an irritating rattling sound drilling itself into your subconcious everytime you ride the bike on low revs a psychological harm. Moral of the story? Ride at higher RPMs.

 

Clutch cable routing - Kawasaki designers were busy with making the bike look good. So much they forgot about proper clutch cable routing. The stock clutch cable runs through in between the two front brake hoses and into the right side fairing. Problem is, the clutch cable frictions against one of the fairing holders every single time you turn your handlebar. Given time, this would surely result in a torn/worn clutch cable. Solution? Wrap the responsible fairing holder up on plastic/whatevertheshityoucangrabyourhandson/blacktape just so it wont cause your next crash.

 

Engine cut off under deceleration - I've gotten this problem once and it happened under hard 2nd gear deceleration. Basically I allowed the bike to decelerate to 3k rpm (low rpm) and i full throttled the bike, resulting in the bike cutting off. The feeling of it is like when a carburatted bike doesnt get any petrol and chokes to stoppage. I understand this is due to a Throttle Position Sensor fault and interestingly, a friend on an 04 R1 has the exact same problem. Both bikes only experience this quirk under track abuse though so all in all, it *might* still be safe for road use.

 

Popping on deceleration - Happened alot more frequently after my exahaust was changed. Due to the absence of the gay Catalytic Converter, the KLEEN system now supplies oxygen into the exhaust which is no longer needed to save the earth for your sons and grandsons. During deceleration, this indirectly somehow results in the popping sound i so love to hear. To remove the KLEEN system, get some of them air valve block off plates and install them. http://www.kyleuse.com

 

High running temperatures - This isnt a bug but I'll like to touch up on it. I'm on water watter as well as a muzzy aluminium fan but still my bike's temperature flares up in slow traffic like as if it was hell on earth. It got so bad that my cylinder head gasket hardened and leaked a little due to the extreme heat generated. I was told that is 'NORMAL' for 12Rs and 10Rs locally to replace their head gasket once every few months due to the extreme heat generated by these high compression engines. Eventually, we all have to agree that Kawasaki designed our bikes NOT for riding in slow/hot conditions.

[Alex31]

Originally posted by CountDokoo@Feb 15 2005, 11:47 PM

I've been riding this bike since the 5th May 2004. Here's a personal bug report:

 

Vibration - If you're female and the handlebar was your vibrator, you would be having simulteneous multiple orgasms every single time you ride the bike. This bike vibrates ALOT. Initially unnoticable at short trips, you WILL experience this problem via numbness in your palms after a long ride. Installing aftermarket barends or a steering damper might help out. Do check your screws and holders now and then as vibration causes them to magically drop out. Honest.

 

Rattling - Complementary to vibration, there must be sound. Early model ZX10Rs rattle all the time in any gear from 1-4k rpm. This I understand is due to an incorrectly installed shim on the generator unit but is essentially harmless. Unless of course you consider an irritating rattling sound drilling itself into your subconcious everytime you ride the bike on low revs a psychological harm. Moral of the story? Ride at higher RPMs.

 

Clutch cable routing - Kawasaki designers were busy with making the bike look good. So much they forgot about proper clutch cable routing. The stock clutch cable runs through in between the two front brake hoses and into the right side fairing. Problem is, the clutch cable frictions against one of the fairing holders every single time you turn your handlebar. Given time, this would surely result in a torn/worn clutch cable. Solution? Wrap the responsible fairing holder up on plastic/whatevertheshityoucangrabyourhandson/blacktape just so it wont cause your next crash.

 

Engine cut off under deceleration - I've gotten this problem once and it happened under hard 2nd gear deceleration. Basically I allowed the bike to decelerate to 3k rpm (low rpm) and i full throttled the bike, resulting in the bike cutting off. The feeling of it is like when a carburatted bike doesnt get any petrol and chokes to stoppage. I understand this is due to a Throttle Position Sensor fault and interestingly, a friend on an 04 R1 has the exact same problem. Both bikes only experience this quirk under track abuse though so all in all, it *might* still be safe for road use.

 

Popping on deceleration - Happened alot more frequently after my exahaust was changed. Due to the absence of the gay Catalytic Converter, the KLEEN system now supplies oxygen into the exhaust which is no longer needed to save the earth for your sons and grandsons. During deceleration, this indirectly somehow results in the popping sound i so love to hear. To remove the KLEEN system, get some of them air valve block off plates and install them. http://www.kyleuse.com

 

High running temperatures - This isnt a bug but I'll like to touch up on it. I'm on water watter as well as a muzzy aluminium fan but still my bike's temperature flares up in slow traffic like as if it was hell on earth. It got so bad that my cylinder head gasket hardened and leaked a little due to the extreme heat generated. I was told that is 'NORMAL' for 12Rs and 10Rs locally to replace their head gasket once every few months due to the extreme heat generated by these high compression engines. Eventually, we all have to agree that Kawasaki designed our bikes NOT for riding in slow/hot conditions.

Hi Count,

 

Thanks for the valuable input.

[aqualung]

Just made a trip to Krabi during the CNY.

Along the way,realise that my radiator fan does not cut in.

So I got someone to install a switch connected directly to the fan and battery. I suspect that the thermostat is not working.

Is there any product out there that can replace the current thermostat and yet cut in at a lower temp?

[rvf7972]

Eventually, we all have to agree that Kawasaki designed our bikes NOT for riding in slow/hot conditions.

 

[Ken]

Originally posted by Alex31@Feb 15 2005, 04:21 PM

Hi Ken,

 

Are you riding a ZX10R too?

I m riding a CBR1000RR.

[Alex31]

Hi all,

 

I have a Toby damper ($550) & a DB Clear Zero Gravity ($130) windscreen for my ZX10R. I haven't fix on to the bike yet. Please let me know if anyone is interested to take over.

 

Thanks

Alex

[DGray]

Originally posted by CountDokoo@Feb 15 2005, 11:47 PM

I've been riding this bike since the 5th May 2004. Here's a personal bug report:

 

Vibration - If you're female and the handlebar was your vibrator, you would be having simulteneous multiple orgasms every single time you ride the bike. This bike vibrates ALOT. Initially unnoticable at short trips, you WILL experience this problem via numbness in your palms after a long ride. Installing aftermarket barends or a steering damper might help out. Do check your screws and holders now and then as vibration causes them to magically drop out. Honest.

 

Rattling - Complementary to vibration, there must be sound. Early model ZX10Rs rattle all the time in any gear from 1-4k rpm. This I understand is due to an incorrectly installed shim on the generator unit but is essentially harmless. Unless of course you consider an irritating rattling sound drilling itself into your subconcious everytime you ride the bike on low revs a psychological harm. Moral of the story? Ride at higher RPMs.

 

Clutch cable routing - Kawasaki designers were busy with making the bike look good. So much they forgot about proper clutch cable routing. The stock clutch cable runs through in between the two front brake hoses and into the right side fairing. Problem is, the clutch cable frictions against one of the fairing holders every single time you turn your handlebar. Given time, this would surely result in a torn/worn clutch cable. Solution? Wrap the responsible fairing holder up on plastic/whatevertheshityoucangrabyourhandson/blacktape just so it wont cause your next crash.

 

Engine cut off under deceleration - I've gotten this problem once and it happened under hard 2nd gear deceleration. Basically I allowed the bike to decelerate to 3k rpm (low rpm) and i full throttled the bike, resulting in the bike cutting off. The feeling of it is like when a carburatted bike doesnt get any petrol and chokes to stoppage. I understand this is due to a Throttle Position Sensor fault and interestingly, a friend on an 04 R1 has the exact same problem. Both bikes only experience this quirk under track abuse though so all in all, it *might* still be safe for road use.

 

Popping on deceleration - Happened alot more frequently after my exahaust was changed. Due to the absence of the gay Catalytic Converter, the KLEEN system now supplies oxygen into the exhaust which is no longer needed to save the earth for your sons and grandsons. During deceleration, this indirectly somehow results in the popping sound i so love to hear. To remove the KLEEN system, get some of them air valve block off plates and install them. http://www.kyleuse.com

 

High running temperatures - This isnt a bug but I'll like to touch up on it. I'm on water watter as well as a muzzy aluminium fan but still my bike's temperature flares up in slow traffic like as if it was hell on earth. It got so bad that my cylinder head gasket hardened and leaked a little due to the extreme heat generated. I was told that is 'NORMAL' for 12Rs and 10Rs locally to replace their head gasket once every few months due to the extreme heat generated by these high compression engines. Eventually, we all have to agree that Kawasaki designed our bikes NOT for riding in slow/hot conditions.

Hehehehe. Nice review. Upz for u!

[WW]

hello to all ten owner ,How much did u pay for your ZX10 insurance?

I also need info on fuel consumtion.