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[Constructicon]

Originally posted by slowrider@Dec 7 2005, 11:43 AM

If this is the way in which the Ah Chong from this so calld Planet mototiam works than it shows he is not very professional in his work.

 

If you had approached him with a brake problem then....and on inspecting the problem, he could first use a vernier caliper to measure the difference in the variation in thickness at various points of the disc.

 

On visual inspection if he could see and feel your rotor are 'eaten' into or deep uneven grooves in the rotors had formed then he should not even proceed with the sanding and pressing and still charge you $50 becos the problem cannot be solved this way. Your rotor need to be replaced!

 

Talk about honesty in servicing?

 

On a more professional way, he could dismount your rotor,

placed it on a flat surface like a granite table and check for warp and using some device like a indicating dial gage determine the actual variation in the rotor thickness thru the entire diameter of the disc.

 

But with mototiam like these...would you expect such expertise?

 

On the other hand, did he determine whether your brake piston are kindaof 'stuck' in the caliper and cannot be retracted easily.

 

Or did he examine your brake pads to see whether the pads when installed have a flat and even contact on the rotors and was there proper toe-in for the pads?

 

I don't think he had resolved your brake problem becos these shops just don't do a PROPER job!....period.

Everyone have the useless gift of hindsight.

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by slowrider@Dec 7 2005, 11:43 AM

If this is the way in which the Ah Chong from this so calld Planet mototiam works than it shows he is not very professional in his work.

 

If you had approached him with a brake problem then....and on inspecting the problem, he could first use a vernier caliper to measure the difference in the variation in thickness at various points of the disc.

 

On visual inspection if he could see and feel your rotor are 'eaten' into or deep uneven grooves in the rotors had formed then he should not even proceed with the sanding and pressing and still charge you $50 becos the problem cannot be solved this way. Your rotor need to be replaced!

 

Talk about honesty in servicing?

 

On a more professional way, he could dismount your rotor,

placed it on a flat surface like a granite table and check for warp and using some device like a indicating dial gage determine the actual variation in the rotor thickness thru the entire diameter of the disc.

 

But with mototiam like these...would you expect such expertise?

 

On the other hand, did he determine whether your brake piston are kindaof 'stuck' in the caliper and cannot be retracted easily.

 

Or did he examine your brake pads to see whether the pads when installed have a flat and even contact on the rotors and was there proper toe-in for the pads?

 

I don't think he had resolved your brake problem becos these shops just don't do a PROPER job!....period.

Bro....you can go open shop liao man..... 1 sure support you with such excellent skills!

[299]

Originally posted by slowrider@Dec 7 2005, 11:43 AM

If this is the way in which the Ah Chong from this so calld Planet mototiam works than it shows he is not very professional in his work.

 

If you had approached him with a brake problem then....and on inspecting the problem, he could first use a vernier caliper to measure the difference in the variation in thickness at various points of the disc.

 

On visual inspection if he could see and feel your rotor are 'eaten' into or deep uneven grooves in the rotors had formed then he should not even proceed with the sanding and pressing and still charge you $50 becos the problem cannot be solved this way. Your rotor need to be replaced!

 

Talk about honesty in servicing?

 

On a more professional way, he could dismount your rotor,

placed it on a flat surface like a granite table and check for warp and using some device like a indicating dial gage determine the actual variation in the rotor thickness thru the entire diameter of the disc.

 

But with mototiam like these...would you expect such expertise?

 

On the other hand, did he determine whether your brake piston are kindaof 'stuck' in the caliper and cannot be retracted easily.

 

Or did he examine your brake pads to see whether the pads when installed have a flat and even contact on the rotors and was there proper toe-in for the pads?

 

I don't think he had resolved your brake problem becos these shops just don't do a PROPER job!....period.

it seems to me tat you could hv provide better skills than Ah Chong.

 

Are u a mechanic,urself?

[VistaII]

Originally posted by slowrider@Dec 7 2005, 11:43 AM

If this is the way in which the Ah Chong from this so calld Planet mototiam works than it shows he is not very professional in his work.

 

If you had approached him with a brake problem then....and on inspecting the problem, he could first use a vernier caliper to measure the difference in the variation in thickness at various points of the disc.

 

On visual inspection if he could see and feel your rotor are 'eaten' into or deep uneven grooves in the rotors had formed then he should not even proceed with the sanding and pressing and still charge you $50 becos the problem cannot be solved this way. Your rotor need to be replaced!

 

Talk about honesty in servicing?

 

On a more professional way, he could dismount your rotor,

placed it on a flat surface like a granite table and check for warp and using some device like a indicating dial gage determine the actual variation in the rotor thickness thru the entire diameter of the disc.

 

But with mototiam like these...would you expect such expertise?

 

On the other hand, did he determine whether your brake piston are kindaof 'stuck' in the caliper and cannot be retracted easily.

 

Or did he examine your brake pads to see whether the pads when installed have a flat and even contact on the rotors and was there proper toe-in for the pads?

 

I don't think he had resolved your brake problem becos these shops just don't do a PROPER job!....period.

>>>>But with mototiam like these...would you expect such expertise

 

Could you recommend me the shop with such expertise ?

 

I trust the mechanic of Planet Mtr bcos they dont cheat me, i know they

are doing their best. i am happy with their servs.

 

Another mtr shop boss Ah Thiam is my trusted mechanic since the day

i ride a dirt bike i heard he had migrated.

[JunJie06]

Originally posted by slowrider@Dec 7 2005, 11:43 AM

If this is the way in which the Ah Chong from this so calld Planet mototiam works than it shows he is not very professional in his work.

 

If you had approached him with a brake problem then....and on inspecting the problem, he could first use a vernier caliper to measure the difference in the variation in thickness at various points of the disc.

 

On visual inspection if he could see and feel your rotor are 'eaten' into or deep uneven grooves in the rotors had formed then he should not even proceed with the sanding and pressing and still charge you $50 becos the problem cannot be solved this way. Your rotor need to be replaced!

 

Talk about honesty in servicing?

 

On a more professional way, he could dismount your rotor,

placed it on a flat surface like a granite table and check for warp and using some device like a indicating dial gage determine the actual variation in the rotor thickness thru the entire diameter of the disc.

 

But with mototiam like these...would you expect such expertise?

 

On the other hand, did he determine whether your brake piston are kindaof 'stuck' in the caliper and cannot be retracted easily.

 

Or did he examine your brake pads to see whether the pads when installed have a flat and even contact on the rotors and was there proper toe-in for the pads?

 

I don't think he had resolved your brake problem becos these shops just don't do a PROPER job!....period.

wow... u seems like a pro.. u go find a vernier caliper in a motodiam for me la.. alamakz.. i think that ah cheong already done his best to solve the bro's problem and some more everyone will make mistakes .. it has nothing to do with his professionalism..

[E.V.ilyn]

Originally posted by slowrider@Dec 7 2005, 11:43 AM

If this is the way in which the Ah Chong from this so calld Planet mototiam works than it shows he is not very professional in his work.

 

If you had approached him with a brake problem then....and on inspecting the problem, he could first use a vernier caliper to measure the difference in the variation in thickness at various points of the disc.

 

On visual inspection if he could see and feel your rotor are 'eaten' into or deep uneven grooves in the rotors had formed then he should not even proceed with the sanding and pressing and still charge you $50 becos the problem cannot be solved this way. Your rotor need to be replaced!

 

Talk about honesty in servicing?

 

On a more professional way, he could dismount your rotor,

placed it on a flat surface like a granite table and check for warp and using some device like a indicating dial gage determine the actual variation in the rotor thickness thru the entire diameter of the disc.

 

But with mototiam like these...would you expect such expertise?

 

On the other hand, did he determine whether your brake piston are kindaof 'stuck' in the caliper and cannot be retracted easily.

 

Or did he examine your brake pads to see whether the pads when installed have a flat and even contact on the rotors and was there proper toe-in for the pads?

 

I don't think he had resolved your brake problem becos these shops just don't do a PROPER job!....period.

even with these equipment, you are presented with a whole new set of problems.

 

how would they treat the equipment? these equipment are highly sensitive and must be handled with tender loving care if you value their accuracy. then do they ever and how often they send the equipement for calibration?

 

bottomline is how much trust you place in their judgement, skills, experience, and business ethics.

 

perhaps you can introduce a workshop with the skillset and equipment you mention and we may all benefit from it?

[civicblade]

Ah Chong has dial guages, venier callipers as well as micrometer. He uses the micrometer meter to measure shim thickness and callipers to measure clutch plate thickness. The accuracy of the callipers and meter might be doubtful as they look like ages ago since they were last calibrated.

 

Haha.. if you need specialized tools to do jobs, ie granite table,calibrate meters, torque wrenches.. I guess you have to bring it yourself cause the price you pay for Ah Chong's workmanship is a small fraction of the cost incurred if you do it the "professional way" in the States or Australia or even some other local "professional" workshop like Boon Siew's.

 

Its a matter of how much "normal" bikers are willing to pay. Ah Chong is operating as a low cost repair and servicing shop for the masses and for the price he charges, it is consider reasonable and professional enough for me.

 

Above are all personal opinions.

[redname]

i'm sure ah chong can use all these high tech tools but if he does tht, the repair charges wld be higher, thus bikers won't patronise him.

 

slowrider, i'm sure u r someone with a gd knowledge of all these tools & stuff, so i guess u'll know how much these things cost. if u r a shopkeeper, wldn't u want more customers & since most bikers come from the avg income grp, isn't it wise to provide gd svc & try to reduce the cost for the bikers in order to attract more customers? or u prefer to have gd svc & burn a hole in ur pocket?

[kata_killer]

Planet Ah Chong, skill is enough for me. He did well maintain on My Haya, CBr929 n also my bandit. He always help me to saves but I always tell him, do watever U think is necessary. N he know my style, I'm a perfection to him, so he will change every parts if he find there is something wrong abt it.

 

I stay at Jurong, but i still go to him within my busy period of time schedule. Everytime, if I wan to do servicing, I usually tow my bike down to him n will call him b4 hand, n I will give him a fews day to do it. Once ready, he will call me, then I will drive down to his shop to pay n then ask him to tow my bike back hm.

 

I'm wif him for so long, n he nvm give me problem at all.

[VistaII]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Dec 12 2005, 02:27 AM

Planet Ah Chong, skill is enough for me. He did well maintain on My Haya, CBr929 n also my bandit. He always help me to saves but I always tell him, do watever U think is necessary. N he know my style, I'm a perfection to him, so he will change every parts if he find there is something wrong abt it.

 

I stay at Jurong, but i still go to him within my busy period of time schedule. Everytime, if I wan to do servicing, I usually tow my bike down to him n will call him b4 hand, n I will give him a fews day to do it. Once ready, he will call me, then I will drive down to his shop to pay n then ask him to tow my bike back hm.

 

I'm wif him for so long, n he nvm give me problem at all.

measuring instrument ah chong have or No have i No interested.

The skill and honesty must be there. Old ginger is still hotter.

 

>>> I'm wif him for so long, n he nvm give me problem at all.

 

but he gave problem with his criminal look it can cause

nightmare.

 

sir, went is the next meleka ride ? is time to visit Johan, ah guan n

those happy faces over there

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by VistaII@Dec 12 2005, 09:44 AM

measuring instrument ah chong have or No have i No interested.

The skill and honesty must be there. Old ginger is still hotter.

 

>>> I'm wif him for so long, n he nvm give me problem at all.

 

but he gave problem with his criminal look it can cause

nightmare.

 

sir, went is the next meleka ride ? is time to visit Johan, ah guan n

those happy faces over there

Currently, my bandit just off. Will be buying a 2nd hand ST11 or Spec 3 Brand new b4 this Wednesday.

 

I thought U wanted to go to cameron highland? Go lah, I'm in for tat.

[VistaII]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Dec 12 2005, 10:19 AM

Currently, my bandit just off. Will be buying a 2nd hand ST11 or Spec 3 Brand new b4 this Wednesday.

 

I thought U wanted to go to cameron highland? Go lah, I'm in for tat.

>>>Spec 3 Brand new

 

Spec3 no horse run, you make the right choice.

 

Cameron H/land me NO going. Come darkness can only see those mei

mei from geylang wholesale centre clearly other than that vision very bad

so how to ride at night in NSWH.

 

enjoy yourself ride safely

[ArBokia]

PLanet got wat ype of 4T fully syn??

got motul 300v , how much> ?

[Meridien]

jus encountered a very bad service from planet...not tryin to start a flame here..but is planet really the old planet shop you guys mention?good service..wont chop pple..etc..haiz

[sp8]

just got my whole wiring repaired..got a scolding frm ah chong~ coz he say my kr modify2...took his mechanic 8hrs to fo my bike..lolx..re wiring of everything, change spark plug, some cables here and there..some lights..ok la..quite reasonable the price..

[civicblade]

Hi Meridien,

 

Please state what happened so that fellow forumer can be more aware.

 

thanks

[Meridien]

ok here the situation

 

my bike encounter a small prob..a small prob which somehow make me quite pissed..one day i went there to clean chain,intend to wash rear brake pad,change sparksplug..

 

ok i assume planet got a few new mech?the new mech attend to my bike..i was quite worried too but i cant be there to see wad he doin..cos haf to walk the other side to accompy gf as she has sensitive nose to the workshop..and bak to the shop to see the bike..so cant really see wad the new mech have done..ok after everytin is done..everythin was quoted 36 buck..

 

wash chain ??$8??is it too much?

sparks plug 10 - ok i request for a good quality one

brake pad - 18 -ok..here the prob come..i request to wash rear brake cos have the sharp"eeee" sound..i can still feel e brakin force too..duno why chong sae change..ok.. oneting for sure..i dun really noe wad brand the new mech has chosen..cos he search the pad for quite long den chong pointed to him..as i was quite newbie..18 for a brake pad..duno got chopped anot..correct me if im wrong..

 

ok den the new mech fix my rear brake for quite long..ok everytin was settled chong quote me 36..requested him to tune my air and fuel mixture..but he use a long metal ting to tune..i was wonderin is he tuning the yellow star shape tingy?i tot that is for RPM?ok everytin is done and he tested the bike and sae no prob..i left the place and rode e bike home..i somehow feel the rear brakin force is not strong as be4 and i realise sumtin wrong wif e brake light..when i step no light but press the brake lever got..be4 i went to fix my rear brake..still got light..den went to e shop again to fix e prob..den the new mech sae sumtin near the brakin pedel there(i duno wad tt call) spoil..den need to change..but be4 i went there everytin is ok,how come after e new mech did e ting den sudd no light?wad im pissed abt is that the mech now make my brake light "ligthen" even i din press or step any brakin..as it was morin i cant really see the brakin light..till i went to a more darker place..whenever i touch e red box brake light there its so damn hot..i afraid it will burst!!

 

chong qute me price for repairin it..im wonderin its not spoil in e first place be4 i went down but after that spoil still charge me money?haiz..i tink chong nw more conceren abt those bigger service of bike kinda ting?correct me if im wrong..not startin a flame btw

[Constructicon]

Originally posted by Meridien@Dec 21 2005, 10:12 PM

ok here the situation

 

my bike encounter a small prob..a small prob which somehow make me quite pissed..one day i went there to clean chain,intend to wash rear brake pad,change sparksplug..

 

ok i assume planet got a few new mech?the new mech attend to my bike..i was quite worried too but i cant be there to see wad he doin..cos haf to walk the other side to accompy gf as she has sensitive nose to the workshop..and bak to the shop to see the bike..so cant really see wad the new mech have done..ok after everytin is done..everythin was quoted 36 buck..

 

wash chain ??$8??is it too much?

sparks plug 10 - ok i request for a good quality one

brake pad - 18 -ok..here the prob come..i request to wash rear brake cos have the sharp"eeee" sound..i can still feel e brakin force too..duno why chong sae change..ok.. oneting for sure..i dun really noe wad brand the new mech has chosen..cos he search the pad for quite long den chong pointed to him..as i was quite newbie..18 for a brake pad..duno got chopped anot..correct me if im wrong..

 

ok den the new mech fix my rear brake for quite long..ok everytin was settled chong quote me 36..requested him to tune my air and fuel mixture..but he use a long metal ting to tune..i was wonderin is he tuning the yellow star shape tingy?i tot that is for RPM?ok everytin is done and he tested the bike and sae no prob..i left the place and rode e bike home..i somehow feel the rear brakin force is not strong as be4 and i realise sumtin wrong wif e brake light..when i step no light but press the brake lever got..be4 i went to fix my rear brake..still got light..den went to e shop again to fix e prob..den the new mech sae sumtin near the brakin pedel there(i duno wad tt call) spoil..den need to change..but be4 i went there everytin is ok,how come after e new mech did e ting den sudd no light?wad im pissed abt is that the mech now make my brake light "ligthen" even i din press or step any brakin..as it was morin i cant really see the brakin light..till i went to a more darker place..whenever i touch e red box brake light there its so damn hot..i afraid it will burst!!

 

chong qute me price for repairin it..im wonderin its not spoil in e first place be4 i went down but after that spoil still charge me money?haiz..i tink chong nw more conceren abt those bigger service of bike kinda ting?correct me if im wrong..not startin a flame btw

Spark Plug - $10 for a 'good' one is ok lah. U know what's the brand/ model?

I always use the Denso $5 one.

 

Brake pads price-I think the price ard there. U know brand is it?

 

Brake pad effectiveness - I think new pads need to set in a bit. After a short while, u will feel the brakes better.

 

Wash Chain - I always wash myself lah. No comments. But next time, u just spend 15 minutes to wash urself., very simple.

 

Brake lights - Did u actually tell ah chong what happened? That it's fine before the new mech repaired it?

 

What bike u riding?

[chpau88]

Hi Meridien,

 

Yeah I suppose if you have told Ah chong the problem , most likely it would be a different situation. I encounter a similar accident to your.

 

Weeks ago I went to change my battery, tyre (front rear), clean carb and tighten chain. I told him i would be selling my bike soon due to upgrading and told him not to get the best for me. He smile at me and told me no problem.

 

For tyre (front + rear), wash carb, battery, tighten chain = $108 ONLY. The tyre though is not first hand but the condition is as good as NEW (he took off from a quite a new bike due to the owner getting better tyre).

 

All is fine until the next day I found out my IU has no light when i insert my cash card of cos I got a bit angry (same as u, the technician is also a new one btw). I called up ah chong he told me to come down take a look.

 

The guy who serviced my bike (same technician) told me my IS fuse was spoiled. He change a new one for me. Though i feel a bit puzzled but I went to ah chong for payment also.

 

Gald to hear from him "FOC". This is my first visit to Planet and I believe in future too.

[arjen]

In Planet, We trust.

[redname]

Originally posted by Meridien@Dec 21 2005, 10:12 PM

ok here the situation

 

my bike encounter a small prob..a small prob which somehow make me quite pissed..one day i went there to clean chain,intend to wash rear brake pad,change sparksplug..

 

ok i assume planet got a few new mech?the new mech attend to my bike..i was quite worried too but i cant be there to see wad he doin..cos haf to walk the other side to accompy gf as she has sensitive nose to the workshop..and bak to the shop to see the bike..so cant really see wad the new mech have done..ok after everytin is done..everythin was quoted 36 buck..

 

wash chain ??$8??is it too much?

sparks plug 10 - ok i request for a good quality one

brake pad - 18 -ok..here the prob come..i request to wash rear brake cos have the sharp"eeee" sound..i can still feel e brakin force too..duno why chong sae change..ok.. oneting for sure..i dun really noe wad brand the new mech has chosen..cos he search the pad for quite long den chong pointed to him..as i was quite newbie..18 for a brake pad..duno got chopped anot..correct me if im wrong..

 

ok den the new mech fix my rear brake for quite long..ok everytin was settled chong quote me 36..requested him to tune my air and fuel mixture..but he use a long metal ting to tune..i was wonderin is he tuning the yellow star shape tingy?i tot that is for RPM?ok everytin is done and he tested the bike and sae no prob..i left the place and rode e bike home..i somehow feel the rear brakin force is not strong as be4 and i realise sumtin wrong wif e brake light..when i step no light but press the brake lever got..be4 i went to fix my rear brake..still got light..den went to e shop again to fix e prob..den the new mech sae sumtin near the brakin pedel there(i duno wad tt call) spoil..den need to change..but be4 i went there everytin is ok,how come after e new mech did e ting den sudd no light?wad im pissed abt is that the mech now make my brake light "ligthen" even i din press or step any brakin..as it was morin i cant really see the brakin light..till i went to a more darker place..whenever i touch e red box brake light there its so damn hot..i afraid it will burst!!

 

chong qute me price for repairin it..im wonderin its not spoil in e first place be4 i went down but after that spoil still charge me money?haiz..i tink chong nw more conceren abt those bigger service of bike kinda ting?correct me if im wrong..not startin a flame btw

hhmm, the price for ur brake pads look alrite lah, brake pads cost ard tht price. ok, there r a few reasons tht might lead to the changing. having the "EEEE" sound might not mean tht its brake dust. it might be due to wear off (it still can bite even thou its thin) or tht the pad has spoiled (due to irregular rain & shine weather)

 

new brake pads need to be season 1st then can brake well, another thing to note is tht aft changing the pads, do rem to pump the brake level a couple of time until u can feel the "hardness"

 

yap, tunning the carb for 2B (i assume urs is 2B cause only small bike then pple do tunning for free) is done tht way. it'll be gd to let us know wat bike u r riding, so we can confirm it

[At.MaDNess]

Hi bros!!!

Me juz came back from planet after leaving it for a day to get my rear block top cam cover gasket fixed and also changed my 'choke' coz he say break already and need to replace.

Gasket=$80

Choke=$35

Me riding Africa Twin so how guys, price ok or not?

Anyway me 1st time went there and he leaves a good impression on me.My god even my gf was impress!

But a bit sceptical on the gasket price coz i heard before if chg gasket cost $50-60...Can confirm?

[kambing]

labour charge..

must buffer that in..

[camel.com]

hi pple.. new here...

 

anybody know whether they do reloan anot?

thanks..

 

sk

[299]

Originally posted by camel.com@Dec 22 2005, 09:21 PM

hi pple.. new here...

 

anybody know whether they do reloan anot?

thanks..

 

sk

They re well known for bike servicing and repairs, tat's what i know.

 

Well, u can give them a call juz to confirm whether they do loans.