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Yes i did try both track n street on MV 750, 1000, Duke 1098s n also the old 748.

 

The Mv is known to have the best posture and also its coming from the same designer. Mv is the evo to 748 actually.

 

May I know which track have you tried the MVs and 748 on?

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May I know which track have you tried the MVs and 748 on?

 

In Aus during my studies period why bro ?? dont worry im not a hardcore race person .... have not even try at Sepang.

 

It was just for fun during my term break there

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Specifically which track?

 

In your opinion what are the main differences between the Duke and MVs in terms of track handling? Other than posture.

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Specifically which track?

 

In your opinion what are the main differences between the Duke and MVs in terms of track handling? Other than posture.

 

Phillip island Circuit at Victoria.

 

SPR is more responsive compared to the 748. Even though Duc is better in nibling during corners but its just a small difference compared to the overall performance of the SPR.

 

SPR is smooth from low to top end as such whn riding u fell comfy as power is delivered everytime.

 

Well just my 2 cent worth... im not an expert though

 

btw judging from the way u ask ... im sure ur have race much more and will know the different.

 

Ur nick seems familiar .... mayb from those R1 Forum ??

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I've only tried the F4 750. Yeap, with the R1 gang, but no worries, meant no harm. Sincerely wanting to know more.

 

Which has better chassis feedback? I know the PI circuit has a handful of fast sweepers, how do they feel on full lean?

 

According to what you say, the SPR has a better low-end delivery even compared to the Duke? More punch?

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I've only tried the F4 750. Yeap, with the R1 gang, but no worries, meant no harm. Sincerely wanting to know more.

 

Which has better chassis feedback?

 

 

According to what you say, the SPR has a better low-end delivery even compared to the Duke?

 

Yes handling is superb , overall is fantastic and the reason why SPR is the best coz its the evo to 748 .... as you know they are the same designers and it was being perfected on SPR. Thats why it is really a magnificent bike.

 

I gurantee u will love it ... how i wish they sell SPR here but i believe it still can be ordered if wanted

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I do agree that the 748, if it's not the S or the R, the lowend is weak. Many have the expection of good low end torque on the 748 because it's a Vee Twin, but nope, it's lacking in the 7 series. A 748 to properly utilise it in track is to really make sure you have the engine running 6k all the way to 10k rpm.

 

SPR is the pinacle of the MV 750s, definately it's would be better than the stock 748. That's why my big question had always been 748R and 750SPR, and the desire to ride these bikes stock in their R or SPR, without asking for more power.

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btw judging from the way u ask ... im sure ur have race much more and will know the different.

 

Dun bother about him....he's only a trackie like me who dun race (how do you define a racer anyways?) and he dun like big crowd in the track. All he bother to do is to lap at a pace to keep himself a minimum of 5 secs ahead of me in PG, so really, he is nothing much :lol:

 

I dun like him because I cannot keep up wth him :bow:

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Hahahaha... What the... :lol:

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*wrong post*

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#48 Shoya Tomizawa: 05 Sep 10

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I do agree that the 748, if it's not the S or the R, the lowend is weak. Many have the expection of good low end torque on the 748 because it's a Vee Twin, but nope, it's lacking in the 7 series. A 748 to properly utilise it in track is to really make sure you have the engine running 6k all the way to 10k rpm.

 

SPR is the pinacle of the MV 750s, definately it's would be better than the stock 748. That's why my big question had always been 748R and 750SPR, and the desire to ride these bikes stock in their R or SPR, without asking for more power.

 

i am actually comparing the 748R with SPR here not the 748. and also do take note of the common problem with 748R technology in terms of electrical.

 

I believe we have to compare apple to apple

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Dun bother about him....he's only a trackie like me who dun race (how do you define a racer anyways?) and he dun like big crowd in the track. All he bother to do is to lap at a pace to keep himself a minimum of 5 secs ahead of me in PG, so really, he is nothing much :lol:

 

I dun like him because I cannot keep up wth him :bow:

 

sorry for asking ur friend as i am not on good terms with most of the ppl in R1 forum .....

 

wouldnt want to waste time dealing with them. Its really a waste of time.

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i am actually comparing the 748R with SPR here not the 748. and also do take note of the common problem with 748R technology in terms of electrical.

 

I believe we have to compare apple to apple

 

I do not know...for my 1997 748 was supposingly the model with the "most" electrical problems among the line of 748. But when the 2001 model launched, the electrical wiring was redesign and is much more reliable.

 

I'm sure if I had owned the "problematic" 748 and find it manageable, the 748R should not be too much of a hassle for me, and plus point, CA is not as hot as SG.

 

Thanks, it's likely I would stick back to Duc afterall, but again, I need to try a MV to know what's the difference for myself, and a Triumph too. If it feels right, it feels right, no point forcing myself.

 

gnayed, though R1 owner, is a rider who is sensible, and down to earth. I exchanged lots of ideas with him and I have noted that he is pretty humble and practical. The only unhappiness is, I knew him too late. I make frens base on character of the rider, not his ride.

 

Cheers! Congrates to you having ridden the 748R and MV 750SPR in Philip Island.

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Hahahaha... What the... :lol:

 

Dun laff...maybe one day you and me MV owner also? So I strike toto, I buy one for me and one for you, and you do likewise when you strike, how? :deal:

 

Over here the price $$$ very high for Lotto leh, lol....if kana jackpot.

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Phillip island Circuit at Victoria.

 

SPR is more responsive compared to the 748. Even though Duc is better in nibling during corners but its just a small difference compared to the overall performance of the SPR.

 

SPR is smooth from low to top end as such whn riding u fell comfy as power is delivered everytime.

 

Well just my 2 cent worth... im not an expert though

 

btw judging from the way u ask ... im sure ur have race much more and will know the different.

 

Ur nick seems familiar .... mayb from those R1 Forum ??

 

woah! u r one lucky dude! not only phillips island track plus e spr..... :lovestruck:

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I do agree that the 748, if it's not the S or the R, the lowend is weak. Many have the expection of good low end torque on the 748 because it's a Vee Twin, but nope, it's lacking in the 7 series. A 748 to properly utilise it in track is to really make sure you have the engine running 6k all the way to 10k rpm.

I suppose the good low-end only applies on the SBK class? That is seriously something new to me. I thought the 748 would pull from any range, then again, it's still probably better than the 600s having to keep ranges above 10k.

 

sorry for asking ur friend as i am not on good terms with most of the ppl in R1 forum .....

 

wouldnt want to waste time dealing with them. Its really a waste of time.

I must say you can't quite blame people for having to bite the bullet sometimes. When I knew about you, you were still riding the monster (me ex-monster rider also) and when you were local you couldn't have possibly ridden the 07 R1 and 1098 when it wasn't even launched. I hope you understand when words meet, they need injects of credibility.

 

Then again, we're not some stalker or something and that I ain't really sure when and where you exactly tested the rides anyway. Still, I give you the benefit of doubt for whatever you say. Though, maybe some pictures of you straddling on the italian iron steeds would help. Cheers.

 

gnayed, though R1 owner, is a rider who is sensible, and down to earth. I exchanged lots of ideas with him and I have noted that he is pretty humble and practical. The only unhappiness is, I knew him too late. I make frens base on character of the rider, not his ride.

Wah so touched, thanks for the testimonial... Same here dude. :cheeky:

 

Dun laff...maybe one day you and me MV owner also? So I strike toto, I buy one for me and one for you, and you do likewise when you strike, how? :deal:

 

Over here the price $$$ very high for Lotto leh, lol....if kana jackpot.

To be honest, the thought of owning a MV is quite a mouth-watering one. But then you know me, I was never quite a bling-bike person. I would probably sell the italian ride and race-spec my R1, and buy another touring bike. :lol:

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I suppose the good low-end only applies on the SBK class? That is seriously something new to me. I thought the 748 would pull from any range, then again, it's still probably better than the 600s having to keep ranges above 10k.

 

 

I must say you can't quite blame people for having to bite the bullet sometimes. When I knew about you, you were still riding the monster (me ex-monster rider also) and when you were local you couldn't have possibly ridden the 07 R1 and 1098 when it wasn't even launched. I hope you understand when words meet, they need injects of credibility.

 

Then again, we're not some stalker or something and that I ain't really sure when and where you exactly tested the rides anyway. Still, I give you the benefit of doubt for whatever you say. Though, maybe some pictures of you straddling on the italian iron steeds would help. Cheers.

 

 

Wah so touched, thanks for the testimonial... Same here dude. :cheeky:

 

 

To be honest, the thought of owning a MV is quite a mouth-watering one. But then you know me, I was never quite a bling-bike person. I would probably sell the italian ride and race-spec my R1, and buy another touring bike. :lol:

 

i dont need pictures to show my credibility ,..... those who knows me will know what bike im riding. i dont blame you even if you dont trust me..... btw i did not mention abt testing a 07 R1. At the point the argument was heating up .... neither 1098 or 07 R1 was mention. But lots of ppl assume lots of things .... cos i dont tell them what bike i have ... i believe thats my privacy.

 

true enuff i still have my monster with me ... and if they are keen to know what bike i am riding ...... its really obvious ..... its return everywhere in my profile

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Guys,

 

Came upon this thread. Need some help here.

 

How much do you reckon is a fair price for a year 2000 or 2001 F4S MV 750 in ok shape? If the price is too high then my fren will have to consider other options, although both of us love the design of this machine.

 

I know that the F4 is a work of art, but unfortunately some of us have a budget constraint.

 

Appreciate all advice.

 

Cheers

 

Cat

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Guys,

 

Came upon this thread. Need some help here.

 

How much do you reckon is a fair price for a year 2000 or 2001 F4S MV 750 in ok shape? If the price is too high then my fren will have to consider other options, although both of us love the design of this machine.

 

I know that the F4 is a work of art, but unfortunately some of us have a budget constraint.

 

Appreciate all advice.

 

Cheers

 

Cat

 

Hows the condition and the service records ?

 

Price should fall bet 15-18k... some may sell at 20 - 22k

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Guys,

 

Came upon this thread. Need some help here.

 

How much do you reckon is a fair price for a year 2000 or 2001 F4S MV 750 in ok shape? If the price is too high then my fren will have to consider other options, although both of us love the design of this machine.

 

I know that the F4 is a work of art, but unfortunately some of us have a budget constraint.

 

Appreciate all advice.

 

Cheers

 

Cat

Hi coolcat,

On my own personal point of view, I see a year 2000 (end) or 2001 mid year model F4 750 in ok shape would be between SGD$20.000 to SGD$25.000 depending on the accessories, mileage and history of owner.

 

I wouldn't mind paying up to 25K is the bike is ready for the road immediately.

If the price is belok 18K, then I might have doubt with the bike actually.

 

Cheers!

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Posted

Thanks for quick reply. Not much service records, I reckon the bike has been to several shops. Outlook is ok, small corrosion here and there, chainguard worn through (common problem? - how much for new ones?)

 

How's re-selling such a bike if my fren finds it unsuitable?

 

Sorry if the questions are basic, jus so ignorant.

 

Cheers

 

Cat

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Thanks for quick reply. Not much service records, I reckon the bike has been to several shops. Outlook is ok, small corrosion here and there, chainguard worn through (common problem? - how much for new ones?)

 

How's re-selling such a bike if my fren finds it unsuitable?

 

Sorry if the questions are basic, jus so ignorant.

 

Cheers

 

Cat

 

My personal advise is if you are not sure of the servicing record of this bike... pls do not buy them .... you will have problem in the end and lost trust in MVs.

 

Price wise varies as Vince has said .... But i would prefer to pay for a bike with full history reports when come to MV. Reason being you would not know which parts to change if no records are found. Mind you Italian bikes are very sensitives to all this tiny faulty parts.

 

I dont think so there is any new ones in sg for 750.

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Thanks for quick reply. Not much service records, I reckon the bike has been to several shops. Outlook is ok, small corrosion here and there, chainguard worn through (common problem? - how much for new ones?)

 

How's re-selling such a bike if my fren finds it unsuitable?

 

Sorry if the questions are basic, jus so ignorant.

 

Cheers

 

Cat

The chainguard worn and need to be replace. or else it'll damage the proarm if the chain slacken.

 

You have to know where the bike have done the service before. And also the mileage. And better still, a history of the owner.

 

Mine actually crack while I wash doing some deep cleaning and it cost

> Upper sliding shoe Euro 40

> Lower sliding shoe Euro 15

from MAH motor. I didn't bother to get back to them as I do not have much patient for salesperson whom are not helpful.

 

If your friend find it un-suitable, I think it may not be easy to sell if off.

Many wants them but didn't wanted to pay the price for such beauties.

 

Cheers!

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But bassically i dont get the part abt re-selling ??

 

why buy when you find it not suitable ??

 

Can you pls explain more in details..... mayb you would want to know more abt the bike .....

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But bassically i dont get the part abt re-selling ??

why buy when you find it not suitable ??

Can you pls explain more in details..... mayb you would want to know more abt the bike .....

Bro, I think I fully understand what's coolcat's friend concern.

 

You see, some people, quite alike me.

Would not go do research, find, ask about bikes spec etc etc and etc as they got more important things in their life to care about.

 

You know when I bought a MV, I have not even seen 1 in real life!

I just knew I wanted it and made the purchase.

 

What they/we want is their own dream bike to stastify themself. And if they don't like it, as in riding posture or some other inconvenient, they may consider selling it off and lead on their life. Simple as that.

 

That's exactly what I do.

Buy it, ride it... like it.. keep it....

 

When I get bored with it or something else caught my attention, sell it off and move on. Heh heh heh

 

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