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Pragmasis has a range of security chain that is very good in quality comparable to Almax.

 

unlike Almax, the chain come in sizes from 11mm to 19mm. the 11mm and 13mm chain might be a good choice for touring due to it weight to performance ratio.

 

the price is pretty reasonable for it quality. shipping to Singapore is about £63 for up to 5kg. depending on the size and length of chain you are looking for, it will likely cost you anything from 200-400 SGD for a chain + padlock combo. the padlock brand is Squire. worth it if you tour regularly if you ask me. you have to roughly minus 20% off the product price when checking for the price as you do not need to pay UK VAT for oversea order.

 

on cutting Abloy PL342 and Protector 13mm chain with a 36" bolt cutter.
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I bought an Onguard Beast chain, 14mm thick links, w X4 lock from Amazon. All-in was like US $100+, with free shipping to SG if order over US$135 (currently still has this).

 

Quite heavy, but will deter the common thief. (Pro thieves... will likely only delay them.) Just remember to lock bike to an anchor point where possible, and try to keep it of the ground to protect from most attacks where leverage against the ground is needed.

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I bought an Onguard Beast chain, 14mm thick links, w X4 lock from Amazon. All-in was like US $100+, with free shipping to SG if order over US$135 (currently still has this).

 

Quite heavy, but will deter the common thief. (Pro thieves... will likely only delay them.) Just remember to lock bike to an anchor point where possible, and try to keep it of the ground to protect from most attacks where leverage against the ground is needed.

 

Onguard beast is a great chain:lovestruck:

 

Onguard has a great reputation. it seem to source their product at China from the little that i gather hence their price is rather good. brand like oxford, kryptonite also got their product from China or Taiwan in order to cut cost. Quality might varies from batches to batches. but so far, Onguard seem to enjoy rather good reputation.

 

i quite sure one will be hard press to find a manual tools that can actually cut through that chain practically. nothing short of power tool or gas cutting will do the job fast. actually the beast and Kryptonite new York legend chain are some of my choices during search.

 

most likely i will setting for the protector due to weight issue. the Onguard beast weight about 4kg for every 1 meter of chain due to it short link design. not something that i enjoy carrying:sweat: with the lighter weight, i can double up the chain as bicycle lock as well.

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Yea, the Onguard Beast is pretty heavy... but I don't mind so long as there's place to store it. :p If you can just wrap it around the tail of the bike, that works as well!

 

End of the day, I just see the chain / lock being there as a deterrent and to make it slightly more difficult, perhaps creating a chance to be caught in the act. Still, if someone's determined with the tools and knowledge, they will find the time...

 

Personally, I'm happy enough with the Beast, don't see a further need for more. :)

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Yea, the Onguard Beast is pretty heavy... but I don't mind so long as there's place to store it. :p If you can just wrap it around the tail of the bike, that works as well!

 

End of the day, I just see the chain / lock being there as a deterrent and to make it slightly more difficult, perhaps creating a chance to be caught in the act. Still, if someone's determined with the tools and knowledge, they will find the time...

 

Personally, I'm happy enough with the Beast, don't see a further need for more. :)

 

and hope they go for the bike next to yours:lol:

 

actually with that chain, you already reduced large portion of the thiefs from getting their hand on your bike. it about as much as we can do:o

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Anyone tried this padlock (alarm padlock)? Saw it in Giant (Vivo City) sometime ago and considering if I should get it for touring apart from chain.Alarm Padlock.jpg

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Anyone tried this padlock (alarm padlock)? Saw it in Giant (Vivo City) sometime ago and considering if I should get it for touring apart from chain.[ATTACH=CONFIG]306208[/ATTACH]

 

Get a proper alarm if needed. U can defeat those alarm with a piece of chewing gum.

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I understand where you coming from. I've not tested the alarm padlock, to know how sharp pitch the alarm buzzer is. Was wondering if this, coupled with a good chain can help.

 

For vehicle alarm, will it sap the bike's small battery? I was told by bike shop, the current generation ERP IU sap battery more than the previous generation IU.

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I understand where you coming from. I've not tested the alarm padlock, to know how sharp pitch the alarm buzzer is. Was wondering if this, coupled with a good chain can help.

 

For vehicle alarm, will it sap the bike's small battery? I was told by bike shop, the current generation ERP IU sap battery more than the previous generation IU.

 

depend on the chain that you are using. if you are using high-security chain, i will get a padlock that match the chain. if you are just using some chain from hardware store, then i guess it is ok. i suspect the padlock is make in china quality. i doubt that lock can withstand much attack. basically you want to ensure that your whole setup is the same security level.

 

also, my friend got the that padlock and the alarm is dead after a few months so he just use it as a normal padlock. maybe an alarm disc lock from Xena will be a better choice although a chewing gum or a piece of cloth can still greatly reduce the sound of the alarm still it is hardly audible.

 

not too sure about the bike alarm part.

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Thank you for your advise. I'll check out the chain you shared above.

 

Honestly, I was just thinking of hardware shop chain initially, till I saw this thread.

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