Legal or illegal for HID bulb

[KeraKing]

 

they are purpose-built by vehicle manufacturers to ensure that they are safe. Like other headlamps,

 

does vehicle manufacturers make their own bulbs?

[Cpt.ZR]

IMO, i think HID makes our presence to cars more known due to the brighter than normal lighting... Thus i think it is good to have HIDs.

 

before i fixed HID on my bike, cars like to cut into my lane frequently, and feedback from my dad is that motorbikes light is quite dim in the day, and in the night when u are at the side, its not VVV obvious...

 

 

after the HID, the light is much brighter pretty much obvious in the day and night, especially so in the night, and there is an decrease in the motorist cutting into my lane.. and most of them noticed me before cutting, because part of the light beams shined in to their mirrors and windows.

[NSRog]

IMO, i think HID makes our presence to cars more known due to the brighter than normal lighting... Thus i think it is good to have HIDs.

 

before i fixed HID on my bike, cars like to cut into my lane frequently, and feedback from my dad is that motorbikes light is quite dim in the day, and in the night when u are at the side, its not VVV obvious...

 

 

after the HID, the light is much brighter pretty much obvious in the day and night, especially so in the night, and there is an decrease in the motorist cutting into my lane.. and most of them noticed me before cutting, because part of the light beams shined in to their mirrors and windows.

 

I second that.

[sh3rman]

i tink the rule should be opposite..

bike by law have to put HID..

cars they shld disallow..

den cars wont have an excuse to not see us..

and it makes more sense for us to turn on lights even in daytime

[sleazsith]

if on 2b bikes can put? where to get?

[NSRog]

if every bike were to put HID the roads will be very bright lor. haha. imo maybe high beam HID will be better.

[QuaXum]

If your bike does not come with it, meaning retrofitted with HID, it is illegal.

 

Anyways, I do not recommend fitting your bike with HID if you do not have a projector headlamp, it will only cause blindness to other road users, as the intensity of the light shoots in all directions instead of projecting to only a direction.

[dragonforce]

if every bike were to put HID the roads will be very bright lor. haha. imo maybe high beam HID will be better.

 

if i am not wrong, HID needs a ballast to be charged up.. so if you were to put it on high beam, i dont think the flick of your index finger to trigger the hi beam will work.

 

If your bike does not come with it, meaning retrofitted with HID, it is illegal.

 

Anyways, I do not recommend fitting your bike with HID if you do not have a projector headlamp, it will only cause blindness to other road users, as the intensity of the light shoots in all directions instead of projecting to only a direction.

 

i have a projector headlamp.. but i suppose its still illegal to install HID even though the light throw is already being controlled right?

 

HID is good.. brighter and emit less heat than normal halogen.. consumes slightly less electricity from your battery as well..

but as quaxum said, pls install it on projector headlamp to control the light throw, dun stoop so low to compare with drivers who like to install HID to irritate other road users with their 4 HID throwing everywhere.

[Kampfer]

I really dislike bikes/cars which retrofit HID light that aren't aligned properly. I can't be bothered to locate the article, but the blinding light caused by improperly aligned HID makes it very hard to judge the distance the car/bike is from you as it creates 2 mini suns in all your mirrors. So whilst many say it's for safety, I'll say be wary the next time you're trying to lane split and a car turns into your path trying to avoid the glare you created.

 

Personally, I really wanted to jam brake on the gilera runner with HID lights while driving yesterday night who followed me non chalantly in ECP without realizing that he is practically riding on high beam all the way.

 

If safety's out, I would say unless you take frequent trips up north and would render HID very useful, do not install HID for the "cool" factor and the illusion of safety. If you do decide to install HID for "safety", make sure that they'll properly aligned or else the next car that turns into you while you're riding will do more than just shattering that illusion of safety.

[skateboy]

HID? this is something that just blind other road users for nothing. worse wanna b seen? just high beem will do.

[ahduck]

my opinion is to mount HID on low beams and to focus the beam on the road.

to me its useless to install on the high beam cause i will always use the index flicker buttons when passing thru junction.

as like wat dragonforce said HID needs time to charge up and high beam will definitely cause glare to other rd users as it shines directly to them or onto their mirrors.

 

even follow forumer said they passed inspection with HID installed.

 

Funny leis.. I went for inspection in june but passed the inspection eh!

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5717061&postcount=2752

 

becos HID is approved for road use

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5778773&postcount=2796

 

So i just need more people to double confirm.

[Kampfer]

my opinion is to mount HID on low beams and to focus the beam on the road.

to me its useless to install on the high beam cause i will always use the index flicker buttons when passing thru junction.

as like wat dragonforce said HID needs time to charge up and high beam will definitely cause glare to other rd users as it shines directly to them or onto their mirrors.

 

even follow forumer said they passed inspection with HID installed.

 

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5717061&postcount=2752

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5778773&postcount=2796

 

So i just need more people to double confirm.

Not necessarily if you do not have projector headlights, please read the attached article of retrofitting a HID system into a vehicle with a reflector meant for halogen lightings, which is easily 99.99% of all bikes.

 

The headlight reflectors and lenses of OEM HID headlights (=optics) are engineered specifically for use with HID arc capsules. The design not only considers the source focal points, but the amount of lumen to be distributed. These factors are often overlooked when retrofitting is considered. OEM HID optics distributes the increased lumen output of this bulb farther ahead on the road, wider to both sides, without giving more directly in front of the subjected vehicle. This provides motorists with much WIDER AND DEEPER night time vision.

By contrast, halogen headlight optics do not spread the light to the degree of OEM HID. This is simply because a 55 watt halogen bulb (or even a 100 watter) cannot match the lumen output of HID. A lower number of lumens means less light to spread out. And a bigger portion of the total light output have to be placed where its mostly needed: straight ahead. Now, consider what what happens when someone inserts a 2800-3200 lumen HID arc capsule into a headlight designed to distribute only 1/3 of this amount of light. Suddenly, there's too much light in areas that does not need more light

 

This will result in 3 things!

 

1) Too much light above cutoff line which would be above horizon on a flat road. This will glare oncoming traffic or the vehicle in front of you.

2) Too much light below cutoff line which would glare dangerously towards oncoming traffic on a hill.

3) Too much foreground lighting. The driver will get the intense foreground lighting back in his own eyes, making eyes less sensitive for down the road illumination beyond 70 meters down the road.

 

So in layman terms, it just means do not put HID unless your car/bike is meant for it.

Edited October 18, 2009 by Kampfer

[Cpt.ZR]

if on 2b bikes can put? where to get?

 

i got mine online from here. This guy called clarke he is doing HID.

 

If your bike does not come with it, meaning retrofitted with HID, it is illegal.

 

Anyways, I do not recommend fitting your bike with HID if you do not have a projector headlamp, it will only cause blindness to other road users, as the intensity of the light shoots in all directions instead of projecting to only a direction.

 

Hmm if your HID is aligned properly it should not shine onto the middle mirror of the car... IMO, most of it that is irritating most likely is misaligned. I would rather irritate car drivers than to risk it..

 

If you think it is selfish of my thinking of that... well... sorry lo. But when u are on the road, and the other party is metal wrapping him and you are human wrapping metal... Maybe you will think like me?

 

i duno.. its my opinion anyway.

[Demon]

Hmm if your HID is aligned properly it should not shine onto the middle mirror of the car... IMO, most of it that is irritating most likely is misaligned.

 

A carefully aligned retrofitted HID can only minimise glare, and it can never be eliminated.

 

I would rather irritate car drivers than to risk it..

 

The glare from your HID may temporary blind the other driver which may result in an accident with another biker. So such irresponsible mods may put other bikers at risk but since they are so many of such mods here, inevitably you, your good self, are also at risk.

 

Should you have such mod on your bike, please be a responsible user both in Singapore, and overseas.

 

[ulysses_sc]

Hmm if your HID is aligned properly it should not shine onto the middle mirror of the car... IMO, most of it that is irritating most likely is misaligned. I would rather irritate car drivers than to risk it..

 

If you think it is selfish of my thinking of that... well... sorry lo. But when u are on the road, and the other party is metal wrapping him and you are human wrapping metal... Maybe you will think like me?

 

It does not help to have such a mentality. Do you have any idea how very irritating and dangerous it is to have HIDs shining onto your car's rear view mirrors?

 

Your entire rear view is flooded by bright lights, and you no longer can see what is behind.

 

Road usage is about mutual respect. Displaying irresponsible behaviour will only serve to further alienate car drivers from riders.

[Cpt.ZR]

It does not help to have such a mentality. Do you have any idea how very irritating and dangerous it is to have HIDs shining onto your car's rear view mirrors?

 

Your entire rear view is flooded by bright lights, and you no longer can see what is behind.

 

Road usage is about mutual respect. Displaying irresponsible behaviour will only serve to further alienate car drivers from riders.

 

Hey bro, I am a driver too. I too have a fair share of people shining HIDs and their Hella lights at me before too. I know how its like, its not being irresponsible or what, its in a way ensuring your own safety.. that falls under personal responsibility too what...

 

as i have mentioned, if the hid is done properly it won't shine onto people's REAR view mirror.... and compared to CARS and SUVs with HID, who produces more glare?

 

not trying to elak the blame or whatever, but its true what.. I do mutual respect to cars by signalling, giving way.. tolerate whatever nonsense some people gimme, but most of the time people still tries to hit me despite me being so big in size .. so whatever it is i am trying to keep myself alive for a longer time, by making myself more visible in the night, both in SG or Msia.

[Cpt.ZR]

A carefully aligned retrofitted HID can only minimise glare, and it can never be eliminated.

 

 

 

The glare from your HID may temporary blind the other driver which may result in an accident with another biker. So such irresponsible mods may put other bikers at risk but since they are so many of such mods here, inevitably you, your good self, are also at risk.

 

Should you have such mod on your bike, please be a responsible user both in Singapore, and overseas.

 

 

 

i rmb there is this booklet bbdc gave me when i enrolled in 2b..

 

it says, when the opposite direction car's headlight blinds you, you can look slightly downwards to your left...

[jokerdefar]

i rmb there is this booklet bbdc gave me when i enrolled in 2b..

 

it says, when the opposite direction car's headlight blinds you, you can look slightly downwards to your left...

 

 

haha....not bad sia...still can remeber and quote that out:thumb:

[Kampfer]

Downwards to your left works to avoid the glare coming from in front of you and is useful because that said car will go past you in a jiffy but when a bike/car/whatever with aftmarket HID lights follows happily behind you and lights up your left mirror, right mirror and rear view mirror, where are you going to look.. at the roof?

 

You can try sitting forward so the mirrors will be out of your range of sight, but since the fella with super bright headlights is following you all the way there's nth much for the you to do but to either bear with that glare, or try to change lane, both of which are unreasonable given that he isn't the source of the problem and therefore should not be the one who is suffering

[counterstrike]

so any one got caught using HID when kanna road block, as there is a halogen bulb attached to HID and when see Road block faster switch to Halogen do you tink will still kanna fine, not exactly sure will they really check your head light assembly.

[counterstrike]

so any one got caught using HID when kanna road block, as there is a halogen bulb attached to HID and when see Road block faster switch to Halogen do you tink will still kanna fine, not exactly sure will they really check your head light assembly.

[IvikaRazI]

so any one got caught using HID when kanna road block, as there is a halogen bulb attached to HID and when see Road block faster switch to Halogen do you tink will still kanna fine, not exactly sure will they really check your head light assembly.

 

 

This is what stated at this webby, http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/modifications_and_vehoffences/modification_guide/hid_headlamps.html

 

"With effect from 1 January 2010, LTA will require all newly registered vehicles, except motorcycles, fitted with HID headlamps to be equipped with an auto-levelling feature."

 

and this http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/modifications_and_vehoffences/modification_guide/modification_not_allowed.html#MainPar_0036

 

"Aftermarket HID lamp kits retrofitted into existing headlamps may cause unwanted glare when used. Therefore, installation of these kits are not allowed."

[IvikaRazI]

so any one got caught using HID when kanna road block, as there is a halogen bulb attached to HID and when see Road block faster switch to Halogen do you tink will still kanna fine, not exactly sure will they really check your head light assembly.

 

This is what stated at this webby, http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publis...headlamps.html

 

"With effect from 1 January 2010, LTA will require all newly registered vehicles, except motorcycles, fitted with HID headlamps to be equipped with an auto-levelling feature."

 

and this http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publis...l#MainPar_0036

 

"Aftermarket HID lamp kits retrofitted into existing headlamps may cause unwanted glare when used. Therefore, installation of these kits are not allowed."