[Group] SUZUKI GSR 400/600

[devil-suzy]

H&B side pannier 40L with rack selling @ 400/-// cash and carry.... conditions... used....

 

u got PM...

[HolyBoy]

Hello everyone, I'm planning to get a GSR 400 in about two months time and I am looking at Silver. Can I check if loois carry silver colour GSR 400? Also, I browsed thru' some of the previous post someone said that Matt Black is +5BHP and Silver is -10 BHP? Can I ask what does it mean? Many thanks in advance!

[sikonesis]

Hello everyone, I'm planning to get a GSR 400 in about two months time and I am looking at Silver. Can I check if loois carry silver colour GSR 400? Also, I browsed thru' some of the previous post someone said that Matt Black is +5BHP and Silver is -10 BHP? Can I ask what does it mean? Many thanks in advance!

 

first, you need to understand that BHP stands for Burst Header Packet.

the difference between Matt Black and Silver is due to the difference in BHP

ratings as used in these paint schemes; so it just means that the paint on Matt

Black bikes has more BHP than on Silver.

 

what BHP does is it refracted light, hence the Burst. Header and Packet are just

units to measure the amount of light being refracted, i.e.: Matt Black refracts

more light (more Header Packets) and hence the Matt colour.

 

if you need more info and diagrams, ask Wildcard.

he works in the paint industry so he knows more specifics about all these.

me, i'm only a humble koyok seller.

[arzme]

first, you need to understand that BHP stands for Burst Header Packet.

the difference between Matt Black and Silver is due to the difference in BHP

ratings as used in these paint schemes; so it just means that the paint on Matt

Black bikes has more BHP than on Silver.

 

what BHP does is it refracted light, hence the Burst. Header and Packet are just

units to measure the amount of light being refracted, i.e.: Matt Black refracts

more light (more Header Packets) and hence the Matt colour.

 

if you need more info and diagrams, ask Wildcard.

he works in the paint industry so he knows more specifics about all these.

me, i'm only a humble koyok seller.

har har har... wht lah u... har har har... u really wan me to open "bottle" for u izzit? har har har

[WildCard]

first, you need to understand that BHP stands for Burst Header Packet.

the difference between Matt Black and Silver is due to the difference in BHP

ratings as used in these paint schemes; so it just means that the paint on Matt

Black bikes has more BHP than on Silver.

 

what BHP does is it refracted light, hence the Burst. Header and Packet are just

units to measure the amount of light being refracted, i.e.: Matt Black refracts

more light (more Header Packets) and hence the Matt colour.

 

if you need more info and diagrams, ask Wildcard.

he works in the paint industry so he knows more specifics about all these.

me, i'm only a humble koyok seller.

 

Thanks for the summary explanation, Siko.

The slightly detailed explanation goes like this:

Silver, being on the higher end of the color spectrum (above the blue/violet spectrum) has a very small wavelength.

As defined:

"The smaller the wavelength, the smaller the structures with which they interact and the more powerful the energy."

Source: http://www.colormatters.com/sci-physics.html

In other words, when light interacts with silver, a high amount of energy is radiated away as silver color which results a major loss in power for the vehicle.

Black, at the bottom of the color spectrum and has a very high wavelength value, retains most of its energy which is used by the vehicle, in this case the bike, in its transmission power.

A good site for formula calculations: http://www.usbyte.com/common/approximate_wavelength.htm

Some more very good read : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_spectrum

 

So thus, the loss of power (as much as -10BHP) for silver colors. I'm not sure what's the effect of white. No research has been done yet and I fear maybe none as the results may be too horrifying to reveal in this industry where looks matter over performance.

[swoosh]

first, you need to understand that BHP stands for Burst Header Packet.

the difference between Matt Black and Silver is due to the difference in BHP

ratings as used in these paint schemes; so it just means that the paint on Matt

Black bikes has more BHP than on Silver.

 

what BHP does is it refracted light, hence the Burst. Header and Packet are just

units to measure the amount of light being refracted, i.e.: Matt Black refracts

more light (more Header Packets) and hence the Matt colour.

 

if you need more info and diagrams, ask Wildcard.

he works in the paint industry so he knows more specifics about all these.

me, i'm only a humble koyok seller.

 

you very powderful leh... I am choking on your smoke

[swoosh]

Thanks for the summary explanation, Siko.

The slightly detailed explanation goes like this:

Silver, being on the higher end of the color spectrum (above the blue/violet spectrum) has a very small wavelength.

As defined:

"The smaller the wavelength, the smaller the structures with which they interact and the more powerful the energy."

Source: http://www.colormatters.com/sci-physics.html

In other words, when light interacts with silver, a high amount of energy is radiated away as silver color which results a major loss in power for the vehicle.

Black, at the bottom of the color spectrum and has a very high wavelength value, retains most of its energy which is used by the vehicle, in this case the bike, in its transmission power.

A good site for formula calculations: http://www.usbyte.com/common/approximate_wavelength.htm

Some more very good read : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_spectrum

 

So thus, the loss of power (as much as -10BHP) for silver colors. I'm not sure what's the effect of white. No research has been done yet and I fear maybe none as the results may be too horrifying to reveal in this industry where looks matter over performance.

 

wah.... u even more powderful than siko... :bow:

[GSR00]

then now my bike fully black , got add another 20+ HP?

[adrian17]

anyone interested in going PG for track? Me just got my bike so thinking of going down to do a hard run in

[WildCard]

then now my bike fully black , got add another 20+ HP?

 

Nope..

We now come to the subject stickers.

Incorrect sticker usage also affects BHP.

Sponsor stickers or race trim decals help with the thermo-dynamic harmonism of the bike and helps increase BHP.

A large out of place sticker like a Mickey Mouse sends the graph tumbling down...

[BoBoi]

Compare S4 n GSR400 which is better?? Better as in wat way? Oil? Maintainace?? $$$??? ANy 1 can tell me n PM me!?

[vendeta]

to all GSR riders

 

i am sorry for the quietness and all... been having a hard life... hope i can still be in the club? how is everybody? i can see the club or members is growing rapidly... that good to see.. oh well hope to get to meet up if u all again...

 

bye.....

[sikonesis]

Compare S4 n GSR400 which is better?? Better as in wat way? Oil? Maintainace?? $$$??? ANy 1 can tell me n PM me!?

 

S4 is definitely better lah.

 

- cheaper tires.

- more easily available spare parts.

- can customise a lot a lot.

 

and of course.

 

VTEC

 

+ SUPER liao.

no fight oredi.

 

 

 

anyway, GSR stands for

Goddam Slow Ride.

they wanted to call this the Suzuki Bicycle actually.

[WildCard]

S4 is definitely better lah.

 

- cheaper tires.

- more easily available spare parts.

- can customise a lot a lot.

 

and of course.

 

VTEC

 

+ SUPER liao.

no fight oredi.

 

 

 

anyway, GSR stands for

Goddam Slow Ride.

they wanted to call this the Suzuki Bicycle actually.

 

I tot GSR stands for Grand Suzuki Ripoff....

 

Ah yes, VTEC. The great nepenthe of 400cc bikes.

Able to produce power miraculously out of nowhere when activated.

Wonder how come SBK and GP bikes dun have VTEC?.

Its the miracle of the century....

[sikonesis]

sorry. i got it wrong.

it's actually

 

Grandma's

Slow

Ride

 

sincerest apologies.

[WildCard]

sorry. i got it wrong.

it's actually

 

Grandma's

Slow

Ride

 

sincerest apologies.

 

salah la.

 

Grandma's Safety Ride....

[sikonesis]

oh yah.

thanks.

 

all bow to the great Wildcard.

 

:bow:

[HolyBoy]

Hi Sikonesis and Wildcard, thanks for your clear explanation on the colours and how it affect the performance of the bike!

[sikonesis]

lol.

 

seriously, you win some & you lose some with both bikes.

 

disadvantages:

GSR

- weight (+10kg)

- slightly more expensive regular maintenance

- spare parts backlog, GH won't bring in & sell to 400 owners

- electronic parts, God forbid they breakdown

- underseat 'storage'

- if you get a box, you'll be outcast unless you can provide good lobangs to

people here like swoosh

 

S4

- old tech, carbs (some might argue it's better though)

- not monoshock

- looks maybe?

- common, so a bit harder to be distinct

- no cool undertail pipes

 

to be honest, i got this bike for the looks; & at the time, because it was

relatively new & uncommon. so far, i've done 56k & still no problem, not in the

least bit so reliability is not an issue.

 

i still think the looks is most distinct factor that differentiates the 2, other

than that, they're quite similar.

[EJ]

super 4 can also put long scrambler handle bars and also scrambler fairings.

 

then call themselves street fighters. whereas in europe, street fighters are fairing bikes being stripped off their fairings, clip ons being swapped for rentals and no RXZ head fairing. just quality acerbis headlights.

[sikonesis]

super 4 can also put long scrambler handle bars and also scrambler fairings.

 

then call themselves street fighters. whereas in europe, street fighters are fairing bikes being stripped off their fairings, clip ons being swapped for rentals and no RXZ head fairing. just quality acerbis headlights.

 

wah.

something against S4 is it.

 

anyway, you're right.

 

A streetfighter is a superbike that is customized by removing the fairing, and

making other changes that result in an overall more aggressive look.

 

so a GSR is still streetfighter derived because it has a detuned gixxer engine

(further small bored in the 400), and it's naked with an aggressive look.

hah!

 

still, let them be can? i still think it's up to the individual to customise their

bike and call it what they like.

 

 

 

thinking of putting my GSR through a diet.

any ideas? Al or Mg rims would be nice but a bit out of the way right now.

maybe the headlight will have to go, but must be replaced with something

decent looking.

[EJ]

carbon fibre parts!

 

and perharps, carbon fibre rims as well? hehe

[GSR00]

ANy1 interested to COI a GSR600, giving up mine for some personnel reason.. of course need to top up for me. PM for more details

[LOTR]

Hi All,

I am new here. Just got my 2A licence, thinking of upgrading to 400cc. So far got 2 choice: GSR400 or S4. Rode S4 at test centre already, but dun noe how is GSR400 performing. Any advise huh? I scared buy already regret... Please help...

[swoosh]

check ot page 281 & 282. You will find links to GSR4 versus S4 threads as well. Happy reading.