SBF Classic Vespa's Cafe 2009 / 2010

[apachezulu]

Hey Sharpey !! I LOVE the Leopard theme !! It's...so...so.... "Austin Powered" !! If I have my way I'll add leopard skin seat covers then it'll be complete !!

BUT might have my hands full fending off gays...heard they like to growl...purrrrrr..!!! Waahahah

 

Hey Rae !! You're getting spotted all the time...your scoots really do stand out !!

 

[planescape]

I guess its just my luck (or the lack of it). Newbie luck eh

 

I got into another minor accident..... rode too close the the gantry barrier of the shopping centre and was whacked by it when it closes. OUCH!!! Needless to say, my poor scoot flipped n land on its side (thank goodness not on me!).

 

The plastic bordering the fender was cracked, the footrest was badly dented, scratches on the engine cowl, cracked carplate, alignment of the wheels off

 

Went Ah Joo this time round. pleased with their worksmanship and prices. I must say it was competitive pricings! Hmmmm and i had a good chat with the mechanic while he was working on my bike (in smatterings of Hokkien, Chinese and Singlish........)

 

Work done = Reworking the wiring of the horn (plus a new batt), knocking n evening out the dented body n footrest, getting a new border, new carplate, getting the brake lights to work, everything all in all, Ah Joo quoted me $133 (n he auto minus to $130).

 

Hmmmm and Ah Joo also have bike tow service and was chatting with a member of AJ Scooters. They use Ah Joo services exclusively i think

 

So yeap, just to keep u guys updated! LOL and i'm so broke this month. Sigh.

[machine k]

apachezulu>> the leopard prints is the paint he was dying to remove..haha

 

planescape>>wah, 2 accidents in such a short while...going thru an unlucky patch now uh? tink u can join me for a respray le...only think i dun really like abt ah joo is bcos they ur scoot is left in the open, at the mercy of the elements.

 

yeah..i'd like to know more about the paint job since i'll be getting one soon...i certainly would not want to go over budget as i will be replacing some of the accessories on the scoot as well..

 

$300 for 2k paint..what do they do to your scoot? or rather, how do they go about respraying it?

they just paint over the old paint?

the old paint is not removed? 'cause if there's some chipping off of the paint or rust, it will be uneven.. the new paint will also not hold well if its rusted underneath.

 

need to pay more if the scoot requires derusting/removal of old coat of paint?

 

thanks man

[rae07]

Originally posted by planescape@Sep 9 2006, 02:19 PM

I got into another minor accident..... rode too close the the gantry barrier of the shopping centre and was whacked by it when it closes. OUCH!!! Needless to say, my poor scoot flipped n land on its side (thank goodness not on me!).

sounds dramatic man. how are u? no major injuries i hope?

 

scooter juz slowly do up...exterior's secondary IMO. impt thing's to fix all alignment prob and watever necessary to make bike safe to ride.

 

 

apachezulu>> maybe because i've been appearing at places other than home and school. juz got time to take a breather this week.

 

sharpey>> this wat i was referring to >> Restoration blog

http://vespa.mr10.nl/50r_restauration_progress/

[un-sith]

planescape u ok? good tat u tried ah joo. So can feedback to us. heh.

See u on SBBF this sat ya.

[KOSMIK]

Originally posted by ackl@Aug 29 2006, 11:18 PM

Nice..handlebar.

Saw it in TA before also..I also saw a few other OEM design handlebar in Thailand

But cannot pass inspection.

I did call up to check with LTA long time ago.

after got bitten by the vespa bug in Thailand.(did not even have 2b that time)

Hum the solution that i heard was to replace it everytime before inspection.

(but got to have deep pocket to do that.)

Even you have $$ to do that ... I always wonder will TP stop you. If they saw your handlebar?

 

Your guy enjoy yourself this friday evening.

too bad cannot join your

knock off 11 pm.

Bro..TP wont stop one. handle bar is not in their purview. LTA if u check sure says cannot one. But if u fix one and sent for inspection can pass. There are a few Series 2 n 3 lambretta having a Series 1 handlebar which passed inspection. As long as the scooter configutation is same shd be ok

[KOSMIK]

I have a vespa FK COE till 2012 for 2kneg and FM COE till 2008(price to be cfm) to sell

[planescape]

KOSMIK > mmmm maybe u can consider posting pictures up too? LOL, tats a sure bait for would-be buyers

 

To all,

Yeah am fine, just bruised pride and ego...

Even Uncle Joo was telling me, must careful la, at leaat bike problem can repair, person got injured, tats bad! And next time, ride thru gantry barriers ONLY after they close so u can guage how much space u reqd to squeeze thru.

 

Hopefully, its just me being newbie n being un-used to road conditions.....

 

Machine_K> But anyway i also asked uncle joo bout respraying. roughly same prices that he quoted u.....

 

Rae> still haven seen ur scoot in NTU eh? Whr you hiding it? LOL sure confirm attract lotsa attention while riding around on campus one right?

 

Un-cith > Hmmmm stickers sounds like a good idea... LOL Is vespaClub coming up with any stickers soon? Think will grab a couple n stick it on. A splash of red on my gray scoot might looks a bit too off however.....

[un-sith]

yeap. stickers are done up soon.~~

[Sharpey]

chill...

 

if you read the earlier posts you'll see why you need to tilt the bike... it isn't to allow fuel to flow out of the carb...but into it! :-)

 

 

Rebuild wise....

have put first coat on the inside of fender and cowls... but it's very orange peely... painted too thick...

\

Pics are on my video cam & am lazy to get them online... will at some stage... but nothing much to see now anyway... I would do a blog... but again, that requires a touch too much effort :-)

[machine k]

about tilting, how long guys usually tilt it for?

sounds like a stupid question, but i'm lazy to tilt it too long lah...usually i tilt n wear my helmet, sometimes wear helmet to fast, the fuel haven't touch the carb

 

n do u guys turn the fuel cap to off when parked?

[apachezulu]

Hey Machine, I usually crank with the electric start while tilting with the choke opened in the morning. Takes about 3-5 seconds for the engine to start.

 

I too lazy to turn fuel valve off every night...Like to know if it's better to do so too.

 

[un-sith]

from vespanet thread.

 

 

September Vesporean Outing

 

Date :: 16 September 2006

 

Time :: 1400H onwards

 

Move Off Time :: 1445H

 

Venue :: Maxwell Road Food Centre (MAP)

 

Purpose :: Singapore Big Bike Fest 2006 - Map

 

Attire :: Vesporean T-Shirt

 

 

Attending

 

01. Precious

02. Roadster

03. un-sith

04. cerealz

05. deepbluey

06. foolosophy

07. planescape

08. gant

09. novi03

10. MooN_StaR

11. vespa_gt200

12. alsacehendon

13. prozzie

14. kennyatemyburger

15. Nite

16. apachezulu

 

Pending

 

01. Gavingoh

02. Vigano (workin till 8, but now trying to swop ard with friends)

03.

 

 

We will still be attending the event as a Group!

 

Pls continue to support!!!

 

Thanks!

 

[rae07]

Originally posted by machine k@Sep 11 2006, 05:03 PM

about tilting, how long guys usually tilt it for?

sounds like a stupid question, but i'm lazy to tilt it too long lah...usually i tilt n wear my helmet, sometimes wear helmet to fast, the fuel haven't touch the carb

 

n do u guys turn the fuel cap to off when parked?

usually juz tilt like 5 secs should be ok.

 

anyway..i gotto turn off fuel..if not carb will flood and it'll be a ###### to start. it was ok b4 though...could leave it overnight or even days...but not now. maybe cos i did something to the vent.

[marciano]

i have lots of questions pending now so i guess i start by asking the basics.

i have a stock px150. and i'm still learning bout vespa slowly.

i wanna change my carb to a 24/24 carb. just got an offer from TA for $45. but what i wanna know is, what are the advantages and disadvantages of using a 24/24 carb?

 

thanks.

[Sharpey]

Marciano... A bigger carb means two things...

 

1) More Air...

2) More Fuel...

 

Having more of both = More Power (torque) which = faster acceleration...

 

However, this is dependant on you having a decent exhaust... (get a "tong" or modified exhaust if you don't already have one) The modified ones usually have a brass pipe at the exhaust tip, stock ones don't.

 

 

There is one other thing that you'll need to do to get the carb to work properly...

 

Seeing as the 24/24 carb has a bigger diametre, you'll need to have the diametre of the carb air box intake (the silver box that the carb sits in) enlarged to match the new carb... A quick job for someone who knows what they're doing.... (Ah Wee did mine when I got a bigger carb)

 

Bear in mind that you'll need to figure out what kind of jetting setup you'll need with the new carb... the one's from your old one will be too small (lean) and will cause a sieze (piston jam) if you use them....

 

Stellaspeed.com (free registration) is a great place to talk with other 150 owners, and they'll be happy to give advice...

 

Budget 10-20 dollars to have the box enlarged and carb fitted... and another 20bucks or so for some new jets (when you figure out which one's you need)

 

This may seem daunting... but perservere... it's Fun!

 

Cheers....

[leonids]

Originally posted by planescape@Sep 9 2006, 11:12 PM

To all,

Yeah am fine, just bruised pride and ego...

Even Uncle Joo was telling me, must careful la, at leaat bike problem can repair, person got injured, tats bad! And next time, ride thru gantry barriers ONLY after they close so u can guage how much space u reqd to squeeze thru.

 

Hopefully, its just me being newbie n being un-used to road conditions.....

 

Un-cith > Hmmmm stickers sounds like a good idea... LOL Is vespaClub coming up with any stickers soon? Think will grab a couple n stick it on. A splash of red on my gray scoot might looks a bit too off however.....

Hardly come to this thread. Once in, see you talking about your accident. But phew, glad you are ok. Don't ended up like me.

 

Yap, stickers are ready. Think Rae caught a glimpse of it yesterday at KKFC. Please contact un-sith for the design, dimension & price.

 

The Vespa Club Singapore is up. Hope you guys / gals out there can join us.

 

See ya on 16th September. Ride carefully.

 

Rae, nice meeting you.

[planescape]

thanks to Leonids... hope ur leg recovered by now?

Eh yeah, my heart went to pieces seeing the bike CLANK down onto the hard cement floor... >_

 

Anywya many thanks to sharpey too!

ur explanation of tong pipe, carb n jet setting etc..... That was a godsend. Cuz i dunno wat these terms all meant prior to ur short n succint explanation

 

Kudos to mid-wk blues!

[marciano]

thanks sharpey for the advice.

u said bout the exhaust being changed. i got some offers for my exhaust being changed. but is it LTA approved? although most ppl say that TP dont really disturb "us" but i wanna know it just for my knowledge.

if i'm not wrong the jets that u're talking about, is it the one that have sizes like 120,125,130 and so forth? and it's like gold in colour right?

[Sharpey]

With regards to the exhaust.... Its a grey area.... I've passed yearly inspections with mine... no worries...

 

Yep... those jets are the right kind...

 

Step 11 on the following webpage shows clearly what makes up the jet stack (air corrector, mixer tube & main jet) The idle jet is the one to the left of the main jet stack. It is likely that you'll have to change all these brass jets...

 

http://www.vespamaintenance.com/fuel/carbrebuild/index.html

 

 

as a general guide... this set up should be in the ballpark

 

Idle jet 55/160 (should already be in the 24/24 carb so no need to replace [do check though])

 

Air corrector (top piece of main jet stack) 140

Mixer tube (middle piece of main jet stack) BE3 (should already be in 24/24 carb[do check though])

Main jet (bottom piece of main jet stack) 110

 

All the brass jets, mixers and correctors will have these numbers written on them (engraved)... look hard, they're hard to see...

 

A 110 jet should be rich enough (but get a bigger one if you want to be safe...) You will know if you are rich enough by doing plug chops...

 

You can play around with different air correctors... (the 160 that should come with the carb is leaner than the 140) A 120 would be richer still...

 

 

Btw.... a plug chop involves doing the following...

 

Ride in 3rd gear at very high revs for about 2 mins.... then kill the engine, clutch in and coast to a stop... (safely done on the Expressway when little traffic is around... TPE is ideal...) When stopped, take the spark plug out and look at the colour... Black = too rich... white or grey = danger.. too lean... (bear in mind that this process won't work effectively with a new plug... try to use one that has been in your scoot for at least a month or so...) If you are too rich, you can consider a smaller main jet, like a 109.... or you can consider instead a leaner air corrector...

(Remember to not make more than one change in setting at a time, otherwise life becomes rather confusing...)

 

Carb jetting is like black magic.... Enjoy

[marciano]

that's very detailed indeed sharpey. BIG thanks to u. btw, i've just check the website u told me about. stellaspeed. nice webby. has forums and everythin. and the articles they post up, is way beyond. cool ppl with big passion on vespa...

 

i've read bout the polini 177 kit. wonder if it's better than the pinasco kit that TA has. sharpey, u know anything bout this? if u do, care gimme detail on this too? if this polini kit is better, thought of calling up TA to ask if they do have it anot. thought of changing it together with the si24/24 carb...

 

thanks.

[Sharpey]

Hi Marciano...

 

No worries... always happy to write about things regarding vespa :-)

 

The problem with Polini kits is that they are made from Iron (not alloy like Pinasco)... This means that they can be more prone to seizure as they can't dissapate heat as well as an alloy jug like the pinasco... Also, Polini pistons only have 1 piston ring (even stock has 2)... which is a bit odd.... Some have been having sucess with malossi pistons modded to fit Polini barrels...

 

If I were you, I'd play around with the carb first... you may well find that it offers you what you're looking for...

 

When you're happy with the carb, then go and put a cylinder kit on... Which one you go for depends alot on what type of scooter you want...

Polini and Malossi are big power kits... Pinasco has power... but is more suited to touring (revs don't get crazy high like on the other two...)

 

Many people think that getting an alloy block is a must.... it really isn't.... (its just a good way for scooter shops to make lots of money out of you...) A properly jetted carb with a decent tong exhaust is plenty quick... Remember that the carb will give your torque and thus acceleration... How fast do you really want to go?? I find anything over 100 scary (and thats on my PX200 which has been specifically modifyied for stability....)

 

Just my 2c....

 

Take your time and read up about things you'd like to change before you change them... that way you're less likely to regret stuff :-)

[Sharpey]

one alloy block that you might consider (as its a straight bolt on with no mods required) is the DR177 [not sold here afaik, but available quite cheaply online...) see link http://www.scooterpartsdirect.com/cat.php?...id=148&men_id=1 A good reputable american scooter shop is scooterpartsdirect.com (i've always ordered from them, and they don't screw around... just make sure you email to check if they have stock BEFORE you order....)

 

Good luck :-)

[rocket1]

yo guyz anyone xp this before:

 

I just changed my spark plug myself. It was fine for a day or two but recently the engine stalled very easily (i) while idling and (ii) sometimes but rarely when I change down to 1st gear.

 

I'm not sure if any of the following are problems:

 

(i) not sure if I overtightened the spark plug. I screwed it in until finger tight and then tightened about 1/4 turn

 

(ii) the plug cap is a bit loose and not 100% secure i.e. won't come off on its own but will wobble slightly from side to side. It was like this before I changed the plug so I didn't think much about it

 

or is it a common thing and I just have to let the spark plug wear in for awhile?

[Sharpey]

Dodgy spark plug?? Try another one... Could be due to other things though... like it being time to clean the piston and cylinder head... or that your idle speed is poorly adjusted...