[Discussion] Technical - Boxes & Storage Systems

[Fazli]

Can try LAB or Givi @ Mah Motor. Should be ard 200+ close to 300 if I'm not wrong...

[Kevs]

Hahaha~!

 

I now itchy to convert to full-time panniers only using the Kappa K33 or the Givi V35 like the CB1300 Sepr Touring. Was thinking of letting my set-up go to make way for the countoured panniers. Anyone wanna offer me something I cannot resist? Will throw in a 1-to-1 swap of the lowered exhaust + my labour... (For Spec III only)

 

Bought the E36 cases for $80 a pair.

WingRack got it for $250. (Is the price correct Khai? Can't remember...)

Sent to SKMIC to lower my exhaust and custom fit back for $150.

 

Kev, my uncle busy till end of year...

 

haha...the cb1300 pics is really poisonous!....Boldor rider beware...

 

Yeah... I've been "poisoned" liao....

 

 

Faz, do be warned, it'll cost a bomb..

cos i'd queried:dot:

& the cost is

 

Still pondering if were to jump ship & convert to the contoured boxes too...

 

p.s. ok Faz, shall wait for yr beeps.

[antartica]

 

Faz, do be warned, it'll cost a bomb..

cos i'd queried:dot:

& the cost is

 

Still pondering if were to jump ship & convert to the contoured boxes too...

 

p.s. ok Faz, shall wait for yr beeps.

 

erm how much would it be bro?

 

if too scary to post here, could you PM me the price? thanks

[Kevs]

erm how much would it be bro?

 

if too scary to post here, could you PM me the price? thanks

 

erm, tink is ok to break it dwn here bah,

 

kappa boxes - 550-580

Givi boxes - 680

SK customized rack + workmanship - approx 300 +/-(my own approx. quote, SK need to see if can fabricate to give confirm quote)

 

so, if kappa(tk maximum) box + rack = approx 880;

if Givi box + rack = 980

 

abv are base on verbal quotes & is not final price, does nt include 7% GST for the boxes yet.

 

customized rack shld consist of the contoured rack to fit the boxes, provided if they can fabricate the shape, & also the rear signal relocating brackets.

 

then for those who also may need a rear box, idea is to get a rear rack(any brand), new(is abt 80-90?), or 2nd hand(abt 50-80, depending on condition), as the original racks have not yet add on designs for a rear carrier.

 

so thats another 100(round up) to consider in?

 

& so, the whole setup would burn the pocket by abt 1K+/-?

 

I think might as well save up for H&B's?

well, its just imo.

[antartica]

erm, tink is ok to break it dwn here bah,

 

kappa boxes - 550-580

Givi boxes - 680

SK customized rack + workmanship - approx 300 +/-(my own approx. quote, SK need to see if can fabricate to give confirm quote)

 

so, if kappa(tk maximum) box + rack = approx 880;

if Givi box + rack = 980

 

abv are base on verbal quotes & is not final price, does nt include 7% GST for the boxes yet.

 

customized rack shld consist of the contoured rack to fit the boxes, provided if they can fabricate the shape, & also the rear signal relocating brackets.

 

then for those who also may need a rear box, idea is to get a rear rack(any brand), new(is abt 80-90?), or 2nd hand(abt 50-80, depending on condition), as the original racks have not yet add on designs for a rear carrier.

 

so thats another 100(round up) to consider in?

& so, the whole setup would burn the pocket by abt 1K+/-?

 

I think might as well save up for H&B's?

well, its just imo.

 

yeah man... a pretty tidy sum. could get a 2nd hand bike for that price... LOL

 

this is what i found out to do a E41 set up:

E41N- matt black - SGD 580.00

N140 - wingrack with indicator- SGD 460.00

Y100- connector for wingrack -SGD 120.00

Y127- fitting kits for wingrack - SGD 220.00

Top case you can choose E55, E52, V46 , E50, E45NJ, B36N

 

GIVI E41 setup with out Top Case - S$ 1380 - estimated

 

 

This is for a H & B setup

 

The rack is $300

Junior 40L panniers, $900++

$180 to $200 to modify rack fitting at Seng Kwang.

 

H & B Setup with out top case - S$ 1400 - estimated

 

 

so it seems that the

E41 setup

 

VS

 

V35 setup

 

VS

 

H & B 40L Jr

 

are all about the same pricing?

[Kevs]

heheh, wingrack & the boxes can get 2nd hand de.

as for fitting, have to retrofit, cos there's no fitting kits for S4.

well, my wing set up + the 5 boxes i hv ish literally way below 1k...

[Fazli]

same as mine... one third of the price wor... I letting go my setup. Need to finance my lifelong commitment. I did the breakdown previously. Offer me somthing I can't resist and I will do it up for ya.

 

Note: For spec III only. Header swap plus I don't charge labour cos I do the swap for ya.

 

:)

[Kevs]

boys, here's the link for the new CB13ST....

 

 

Pls use yr own's online translation for better understanding, cos i use google or jus picture whoring in its original text...

 

wah paingz...

saliva cannot stop salivating sia..

if i can fund for this... sure risk all my finances.. & the wrath of my finance minister... hahaha...

[Fazli]

http://www.honda.co.jp/CB1300/photo/04/image/photo.jpg

 

If all white it will make a nice TP bike...

 

*droooolzzzz...*

[khaitronic]

From naked...to half fairing boldor...now with this type of panniers and back rest...look like FJR sia...nice!

[Kevs]

If all white it will make a nice TP bike...

 

*droooolzzzz...*

 

Plus the carshbars, siren horns, strobe/warning lights & the keypress box!!

 

From naked...to half fairing boldor...now with this type of panniers and back rest...look like FJR sia...nice!

 

eh bang, fjr got full fairing leh, itu looks better lah!

 

[Fazli]

Any takers for my SpecIII specific WingRack set-up + lowered exhaust?

 

Looking at $400 (neg).

 

:)

[phatmonsta]

Saw a spec 3 with box with his short rack connected only to his "pillion handlebar" screw there.. Is it a customise one or can i get it from any shop?

[Fazli]

Most probably is customised at Seng Kwang. In my opinion, it don't look strong and sturdy for full load. Unless just using a small box e.g. Givi E33 and below...

[dragonforce]

got a few questions..

 

1) is wingrack universal for all bikes?

2) how to check which box can fit as panniers on wingrack? i remembered givi website used to put..

3) is the baseplate locking mechanism of the maxia same as the e41?

 

i think its better for me to state my situation then you guys can advise me better.. currently riding s4 hyper vtec with e52 givi maxia. considering to buy a pair of e41 keyless and install on my bike with givi wingrack. sometimes will use the maxia only, sometimes use the e41 as side panniers sometimes would want to put 1 as a topbox (nvm the ugliness of it).

finally when/if i change bike, all these switches to the other bike.

 

is all this (economically) possible? what are the potential problems i face? no need to say got $$ what also can..

[Kevs]

got a few questions..

 

1) is wingrack universal for all bikes?

2) how to check which box can fit as panniers on wingrack? i remembered givi website used to put..

3) is the baseplate locking mechanism of the maxia same as the e41?

 

i think its better for me to state my situation then you guys can advise me better.. currently riding s4 hyper vtec with e52 givi maxia. considering to buy a pair of e41 keyless and install on my bike with givi wingrack. sometimes will use the maxia only, sometimes use the e41 as side panniers sometimes would want to put 1 as a topbox (nvm the ugliness of it).

finally when/if i change bike, all these switches to the other bike.

 

is all this (economically) possible? what are the potential problems i face? no need to say got $$ what also can..

 

bro,

 

1) the rack is universal, just that the fitting kits(brackets) are not;

2) eh, givi panniers frm E21, E360, E36, E45 & E41

3) locking mechanism for wingrack are all monokey, which means, same across for monokey family. Anything frm monolock, would be different.

 

as spoken before, for yr model, have to use mounting points frm, suspension, below @ the bungee cord hook there & across rear no. plate.

tk note of the weak point @ the bungee cord hook there, or if possible, add another point, going over the tailboard instead.

 

due to restriction of mounting point, advise not to have to much of a heavy load. otherwise if touchwood, if the point @ the cord hook there breaks, no amount of repair welding can help.

 

oh, & there's no fitting kits for any S4 family.

Best is, you know, so SK to fabricate the mounting brackets/bars/extensions. :thyumb:

 

Hope it helps..

[dragonforce]

hey bro

 

so from my quick research in givi usa website, the e41 keyless and e52 maxia are both monokey.. using my current baseplate which fits the e52, i am able to put 1x e41 on top if i decide to remove my e52 maxia..

 

time to look for these stuffs..

[Iceachilles]

hey bro

 

so from my quick research in givi usa website, the e41 keyless and e52 maxia are both monokey.. using my current baseplate which fits the e52, i am able to put 1x e41 on top if i decide to remove my e52 maxia..

 

time to look for these stuffs..

 

So the E45 baseplate fits e52 box? damn.. I thought e52 uses a special base plate. wasted man. When I asked the shops, nobody can confirm the e45 baseplate can fit e52 so in the end bought a Concase as it came with the box and baseplate..

[dragonforce]

So the E45 baseplate fits e52 box? damn.. I thought e52 uses a special base plate. wasted man. When I asked the shops, nobody can confirm the e45 baseplate can fit e52 so in the end bought a Concase as it came with the box and baseplate..

i am not too sure about that.. maybe for the e45 (the squarish box) definitely not e42 givi simply...

[Kevs]

hey bro

 

so from my quick research in givi usa website, the e41 keyless and e52 maxia are both monokey.. using my current baseplate which fits the e52, i am able to put 1x e41 on top if i decide to remove my e52 maxia..

 

time to look for these stuffs..

 

eh, can put, bt, w/o the contact point for the brake light, as it'll block the front catch.

but why use the E41 as a top box?

looks damn fugly to me, cos i did it before...

go to http://www.givi.it, change the language to english for better understanding.

 

So the E45 baseplate fits e52 box? damn.. I thought e52 uses a special base plate. wasted man. When I asked the shops, nobody can confirm the e45 baseplate can fit e52 so in the end bought a Concase as it came with the box and baseplate..

 

huh?

if you mean the old E45, squarish one,

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/ezimagecatalogue/catalogue/variations/2852-425x350.jpg

it can fit, but if u mean the new E450 simply,

http://www.scooterluggage.com/images/e450.jpg

then no, cos its a Monolock series. The mount/catch point is different for the both mounting series.

http://www.rlmotorcycles.com/Images/MonoKey-MonoLock-locks.gif

[dragonforce]

yeah i understand its going to look quite ugly.. but nvm the ugliness of it.. i probably only put it when i need to lane split and when i pillon my gf.. nvm about the brake light also.. got the stock brake light should do fine..

anyway, nice illustration.. speaks a thousand words.

[khaitronic]

yeah i understand its going to look quite ugly.. but nvm the ugliness of it.. i probably only put it when i need to lane split and when i pillon my gf.. nvm about the brake light also.. got the stock brake light should do fine..

anyway, nice illustration.. speaks a thousand words.

 

My top box was e41 when i rode my S4 back then......

[dragonforce]

haha.. but just imagine i use 1 of the e41 as top and 1 as side.. was that how you used it?

[khaitronic]

haha.. but just imagine i use 1 of the e41 as top and 1 as side.. was that how you used it?

 

Hahah of course not like that lor...usually i will just use 1 e41 for the top rack and that it!...

[dragonforce]

haha.. that's what i am intending to do sometimes you see.. that's y its going to be ugly.. haha..