p plate rider, went 107kph on old airport road, need advice.

[donhxw]

as above, i went 107kph on old airport road near ubi, limit 50kph.

just replaced my suspension, sprocket, chain n valve, so had to test it out n it seems like my hand got abit itchy since i was on the right lane with no cars in sight

 

stopped at t junction and got a shock when i looked back.

TP was behind me.

was pulled to the side and was summoned for speeding.

 

so anyone with experience can help me out? what happens when i recieve the letter in 3 weeks time? our big brother TP kept telling me that im only allowed to have 12 demerit points and the offence i just made, IS 12 demerit points.

 

been riding for a month n a 1/2 now. first time seeing our hantu on 2 wheels in action, unfortunately its due to me

[FuLL of SoRRoW]

TS...

 

u just pass and u speed...????

u dont love ur license ah or u just like to give money to garberment???

 

anyway..

wat did the officer tell u..?

that is impt..

 

cause if i am not wrong airport rd 60km/h rite..

if he charge u at ur speed.. u can kiss ur license bye bye..

as a p plater.. u only have 12 points

u were caught at 107km/h

 

that is above 40km/h...

so definate court case..

[Refugee]

12 demerit points ah?

 

sell bike loh.....

[Dafanshu]

It is due to the "action" of many new riders which cause the insurance premium to rise without any resistance.

[panclanrider]

as above, i went 107kph on old airport road near ubi, limit 50kph.

just replaced my suspension, sprocket, chain n valve, so had to test it out n it seems like my hand got abit itchy since i was on the right lane with no cars in sight

 

stopped at t junction and got a shock when i looked back.

TP was behind me.

was pulled to the side and was summoned for speeding.

 

Do u know how close were u to e TP HQ?

 

107kph just to test bla bla bla is just not gd excuse...

 

so anyone with experience can help me out? what happens when i recieve the letter in 3 weeks time? our big brother TP kept telling me that im only allowed to have 12 demerit points and the offence i just made, IS 12 demerit points.

 

been riding for a month n a 1/2 now. first time seeing our hantu on 2 wheels in action, unfortunately its due to me

 

When e letter comes, u'll be penalised with 12 pts but u can still ride & pray tat u don't get caught for even a single point offence...

 

And many will just stop riding for a yr from the date of penalised in order to clear e record back to 12 pts or in ur case 24 pts...

[bernardk]

you still can ride with 0 points. and after a year will reset to 12 or 24.

Cos i also kana.

 

So in the year be VERY "guai". DO NOT have ANY offend. DUN evade ERP or GO direction AGAINST Traffic.

 

So in the mean time PRAY for 12 points. But mabbe he didnt clock you.

[Echo]

ts, i surprised u don't know how to love ur life, and others' and license. there is no excuse for testing.

 

most prob u will lose ur license since it should be court case. even if it is not, i hope u think twice before 'testing' next time.

[JbAtRaCeR]

TS...want to test go 2nd link..worst2 just pay RM300 fine or 50SGD kopi money....or go for track session..I always advice my classmates (from ITE) not play in SG,its just not worth it.I understand the itch to open up and feel speed,but do it at your own risk.

[donhxw]

thx for the info guys, i do realise its my fault and i'm not placing the blame on others:cheeky:

we all make mistakes b4, and its thru them we improve.

now i regret 'testing' on that stretch of road, or on any road for that matter.

to add on n confirm, that area's speed limit is 50kph

and would also like to know, how do they calculate the demerit points we get when we're speeding? is it by the difference of speed between the allowed limit and the speed we are going?

[panclanrider]

thx for the info guys, i do realise its my fault and i'm not placing the blame on others:cheeky:

we all make mistakes b4, and its thru them we improve.

now i regret 'testing' on that stretch of road, or on any road for that matter.

 

To err is human... To forgive is divine... Hope u'll learn not to commit e same mistake again...

 

to add on n confirm, that area's speed limit is 50kph and would also like to know, how do they calculate the demerit points we get when we're speeding? is it by the difference of speed between the allowed limit and the speed we are going?

 

Ur speed is 57kph more than e allowable 50kph...

 

It'll depends on how e TP Officer charge u...

 

He might not state tat ur offence speed is 57kph in extra...

 

That's y FOS is asking u wat e officer told u...

[donhxw]

well, the TP asked me to continue riding with him to find the speed limit sign, and asked me to pray hard its 60 and not 50.

we found out it was 50kph.

 

i was already confused about this and just tagged along.

so what does it all mean? the summons i got stated that i was goin 107 on a 50 road.

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

as above, i went 107kph on old airport road near ubi, limit 50kph.

just replaced my suspension, sprocket, chain n valve, so had to test it out n it seems like my hand got abit itchy since i was on the right lane with no cars in sight

 

stopped at t junction and got a shock when i looked back.

TP was behind me.

was pulled to the side and was summoned for speeding.

 

so anyone with experience can help me out? what happens when i recieve the letter in 3 weeks time? our big brother TP kept telling me that im only allowed to have 12 demerit points and the offence i just made, IS 12 demerit points.

 

been riding for a month n a 1/2 now. first time seeing our hantu on 2 wheels in action, unfortunately its due to me

 

good for you , in this case the MIB did something good:dot:

[panclanrider]

Offences

 

There are 8 categories of offences that carry demerit points. They carry 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 18 & 24 demerit points according to the severity of offences.

 

3 Demerit Points

 

1. Disobeying traffic direction of Police Officer
   
2. Carrying excess pillion or carrying pillion not sitting astride
   
3. Riders failing to wear or wear insecurely on his head a protective helmet
   
4. Driver failing to wear a seat belt
   
5. Driver failing to ensure that front/rear seat passenger wears a seat belt
   
6. Allowing a child below 8 years of age who is a front/rear passenger to be secured with an unapproved child restraint
   
7. Using a motor vehicle where a child below 8 years of age, who is a front/rear passenger is not properly secured by an approved child restraint when there is seat belt available for the use of such passenger
   
8. Parking within a Demerit Points No Parking Zone
   
9. Stopping within a Demerit Points No Stopping Zone
   
10. Parking abreast of another vehicle
    
11. Parking within a pedestrian crossing
    
12. Stopping at a zebra-crossing
    
13. Carrying passengers on goods vehicle without a permit
    
14. Conveying load not properly secured
    
15. Using tyre with ply or cord carcass exposed
    

 

In addition, a composition amount is imposed as follows:

 

Light Vehicle (unladen weight of 2500 kg and below): S$120.00

Heavy Vehicle (unladen weight exceeds 2500 kg): S$150.00

 

4 Demerit Points

 

1. Exceeding speed limit of vehicle by up to 20km/h.
   
2. Exceeding speed limit of the road by up to 20km/h.
   
3. Failing to give way to oncoming traffic at controlled junction.
   
4. Failing to give way at uncontrolled junction.
   
5. Failing to give way at junction.
   
6. Failing to give way at roundabout.
   
7. Crossing double white lines.
   
8. Crossing road divider.
   
9. Hindering flow of traffic.
   
10. Failing to give way to ambulance or fire brigade or police vehicle.
    
11. Driving while carrying load on a motor vehicle in a dangerous manner.
    
12. Stop or allow vehicle to remain at rest on shoulder of an expressway.
    
13. Stopping or remaining at rest on the carriageway of an expressway.
    
14. Forming up incorrectly when turning left or right.
    

 

In addition, a composition amount is imposed as follows:

 

Light Vehicle (unladen weight of 2500 kg and below): S$130.00

Heavy Vehicle (unladen weight exceeds 2500 kg): S$160.00

 

6 Demerit Points

 

1. Driving or riding against the flow of traffic.
   
2. Driving on a shoulder of an expressway.
   
3. Load falling off from the vehicle.
   
4. Exceeding speed limit of the road by more than 20km/h up to 30km/h.
   
5. Exceeding speed limit for vehicle by more than 20km/h up to 30km/h.
   
6. Offences committed by motorists at a pedestrian crossing
   
7. Failing to give way to pedestrian at pedestrian crossing.
   
8. Unable to stop your vehicle before reaching a pedestrian crossing.
   
9. Failing to allow free and uninterrupted passage to pedestrian.
   
10. Failing to give way to pedestrian at controlled intersection.
    
11. Careless driving.
    
12. Carrying passengers on a goods vehicle in a dangerous manner.
    
13. Carrying passengers on a motor vehicle or trailer in a dangerous manner.
    
14. Reversing unnecessarily along an expressway.
    

 

In addition, a composition amount is imposed as follows:

 

Light Vehicle (unladen weight of 2500 kg and below) : S$150.00

Heavy Vehicle (unladen weight exceeds 2500 kg) : S$180.00

 

8 Demerit Points

 

1. Exceeding speed limit for vehicle by more than 30km/h up to 40km/h.
   
2. Exceeding the speed limit of the road by more than 30km/h up to 40km/h.
   

 

In addition, a composition amount is imposed as follows:

 

Light Vehicle (unladen weight of 2500 kg and below): S$170.00

Heavy Vehicle (unladen weight exceeds 2500 kg): S$200.00

 

9 Demerit Points

 

1. Driving without due care or reasonable consideration for other road users.
   

 

In addition, a composition amount is imposed as follows:

 

Light Vehicle (unladen weight of 2500 kg and below): S$170.00

Heavy Vehicle (unladen weight exceeds 2500 kg): S$200.00

 

12 Demerit Points

 

1. Exceeding speed limit for vehicle by more than 40km/h up to 50km/h.
   
2. Exceeding the speed limit of the road by more than 40km/h up to 50km/h.
   

 

These offenders will be prosecuted in court.

 

1. Failing to conform to traffic red light signals.
   

 

In addition, a composition amount is imposed as follows:

 

Light Vehicle (unladen weight of 2500 kg and below) : S$200.00

Heavy Vehicle (unladen weight exceeds 2500 kg) : S$230.00

 

1. Use of mobile telephone whilst driving.
   

 

The offenders may be prosecuted in court and disqualified from driving. The offender's handphone and SIM card may also be seized to facilitate investigation. These may be forfeited by the court upon conviction.

 

Court Penalties:

 

1. 1st time offender- Fine not exceeding $1000.00 or jail sentence of up to 6 months or both.
   
2. 2nd or subsequent conviction- Fine not exceeding $2000.00 or jail sentence of up to 12 months or both.
   

 

18 Demerit Points

 

 

1. Exceeding speed limit for vehicle by more than 50 km/h up to 60km/h.
   
2. Exceeding speed limit of the road by more than 50km/h up to 60km/h.
   

 

Offender will be prosecuted in court.

 

 

24 Demerit Points

 

 

1. Exceeding speed limit for vehicle by more than 60 km/h.
   
2. Exceeding speed limit of the road by more than 60km/h.
   
3. Reckless or dangerous driving.
    
   

Offender will be prosecuted in court.

 

 

 

 

:goodluck:

[gorgonitz82]

This means you exceeded the road limit by 57kph. That means under the DIPS you are liable for 18pts and court case. Abd that means if you p-plate, license revoked. And you can only reapply to take all the tests and lessons after 1 year. I feel sad for you.

 

If it is a 60kph road, is 12 points and court case. License not revoked.

 

well, the TP asked me to continue riding with him to find the speed limit sign, and asked me to pray hard its 60 and not 50.

we found out it was 50kph.

 

i was already confused about this and just tagged along.

so what does it all mean? the summons i got stated that i was goin 107 on a 50 road.

[donhxw]

after the incident, i went back to the bike shop for furthur adjustments, and the owner advised me to appeal with my MP's help. will that help with anything? or will i be just wasting our MPs time?

[panclanrider]

after the incident, i went back to the bike shop for furthur adjustments, and the owner advised me to appeal with my MP's help. will that help with anything? or will i be just wasting our MPs time?

 

That might help if you come up with some stories like u need e license for tan chia aka rice bowl purposes & while u were caught by e TP, U've got a terrible stomach upset tat u need to go to e loo urgently...

 

Ur MP is there to help u solve ur problems...

 

He won't b there without u...

 

So pls let him/her earn his/her pay & don't say such things as wasting his/her time althought it's true tat others might have a more critical problem for him/her to help solve it......

 

But then again... Like FOS mentioned, betta face e music like a man lah...

[FuLL of SoRRoW]

after the incident, i went back to the bike shop for furthur adjustments, and the owner advised me to appeal with my MP's help. will that help with anything? or will i be just wasting our MPs time?

 

u tink mp wil help???

dont bother getting urself in trouble..

 

it might just backfire and u get a much more major charge.

 

u did wrong...

and u got caught...

 

sometimes a person will only learn after they go thru the hard way.

 

i am not rubbing salt into the wound.

but living in sg..

this is wat u get if u dont obey the law.

[the_scientist85]

Do u know how close were u to e TP HQ?

 

107kph just to test bla bla bla is just not gd excuse...

 

 

 

When e letter comes, u'll be penalised with 12 pts but u can still ride & pray tat u don't get caught for even a single point offence...

 

And many will just stop riding for a yr from the date of penalised in order to clear e record back to 12 pts or in ur case 24 pts...

 

but i dun tink... most prob u got 12 points, but 0 points to ride correct? but since u p plate i tink dis kind of offence usually straight revoke. beat red lite oso 12 pts but usuali p plate they revoke. if non p platers usualy they onli charge 1 offence. if p plate they will usualy charge dangerous riding n dats more den 12. everywher oso same most people dun like newbie step like lao jiao. hopefully the wan charge u is not like dat. n u cnfem go court, n hope the judge wun revoke ur liscence too. but chances are veri slim. maybe if u 8 or 9 points still exccusable.

[SinFilled]

I tot now just pass TP is 13points? correct me if im wrong coZ i heard it from my frenZ who recently passed,mayb he dua me lolZ

 

Anyways be it 12 or 13 points, if u kana 12DP u still can ride,but one more point of offence onli and ur a goner. So better dun ride until ur points reset next yr to 24 haha.

 

Limit 50km/hr or 60km/hr u also exceed alot liaoZ haha just dun think so much for now,wait for the letter to come then start to worry. Please don't try to speed again k, i've been through it before,the urge is strong but i always keep telling myself, If revoke i cant ride so carefree again. So everytime I will go max like 100km/hr on expressway. cruising this kinda speed oso quite relaxing wat haha

[BlackDawn]

Exceed by more than 50kmh. 18 points. License revoked, court case + fine.

Prepare to say goodbye to your 1.5month license & start all over again after your revokation is over.

 

You do not seem to value your life nor your license. Be a man & face the consequences. You totally deserve it.

[the_scientist85]

dun care wat they charge u, 12 point or 18 point offence. if P PLATER go court cnfem revoke. go court means serious aredi

[contrarian]

Whether you exceed by 40 or 50 km/h, you have to be charged in court. That means the MP won't be able to help you very much, unlike the lower level offences which are more administrative.

 

The only difference is what gorgonitz says, which is whether you still hang on to your P plate or give up your licence. This depends on how much you have exceeded the speed limit.

 

If it's an 18-point case, and you want to convince the judge that you should retain your licence despite going 40 or 50 above the speed limit,

[Refugee]

aiyah.. TS still young lah... revoke lah... no problem...

 

after 1 year still not too old to take license.... okie one lah

[Guest stages]

hope you're ok friend......

[pikapika]

i also just got license and going at about 70+km/h on expressway i already feel very fast liao.....maybe it just me...hope your lic dont get revoke... ride safe