Tattoos....

[raphael]

thanks for the opinions!

50 bucks for A6 to A5 size, is it ok?

[xiaoya-]

Originally posted by Small Machine@April 28, 2007 01:35 pm

thanks for the opinions!

50 bucks for A6 to A5 size, is it ok?

wahhhh.. 50 bucks is cheap.

 

but then, its at ur own risk. =)

[xiaoya-]

Originally posted by Sn0w_MaN@April 28, 2007 09:30 am

xiaoya mine is twice also done by nick haiz... in the 1st place i am more comfortable with jeremy but he got to do some design for my fren so in the end he ask nick to do. Until now i still prefer jeremy maybe is because he customized my 1st tattoo lor so got feeling...

icic.

[xiaoya-]

Originally posted by Small Machine@April 28, 2007 12:54 am

erm, just wanna ask any of you guys would willing give amatuer level guy do tattoo? let say he charges max $50?

eh.. ahhaha i think if he wanna make it foc, i also wont accept. =D

[fleaz]

is it advisable to use a tattoo to cover a scar? of course firstly i want this tattoo, covering up the scar is a secondary objective

[kmax]

Originally posted by Small Machine@April 28, 2007 01:35 pm

thanks for the opinions!

50 bucks for A6 to A5 size, is it ok?

tattoo is permenent thing bro..

what u have to wear till ur skin peel off...

 

what if his artwork is not what u expect... it's not for 50$ but for ur own piece of skin..

 

even if he's good in drawing or have good design outline... i dont dare to try!

[kmax]

i have my frnds tattooed cartoon characters..

one guy has Tweety on left arm and Taz on right..

another guy spell his full name on arm.

they played in younger days.. but now covered with dragons or such designs with appropiate tattoo artist..

[raphael]

Originally posted by kmax@May 02, 2007 05:45 am

tattoo is permenent thing bro..

what u have to wear till ur skin peel off...

 

what if his artwork is not what u expect... it's not for 50$ but for ur own piece of skin..

 

even if he's good in drawing or have good design outline... i dont dare to try!

if he cannot find pple to practice, how is he going to improve?

 

you cannot expect some god-like skill from an newbie right?

 

thats where apprenticeship comes in, you know what apprentice is?

[xiaoya-]

Originally posted by Small Machine@May 02, 2007 01:26 pm

if he cannot find pple to practice, how is he going to improve?

 

you cannot expect some god-like skill from an newbie right?

 

thats where apprenticeship comes in, you know what apprentice is?

there is actually more than a way to practice other than to get human skin dude. i always believe in if he/she can actually make miracles on the papers, when it comes to hand on, it shouldnt be a problem.

 

yes, we dont expect god-like skill from newbies, so that is the reason why ppl are reluctant to sacrify their skins to them despite the cheap deal they are giving. if you do, you do.

 

i believe ppl here are just giving their good opinions to you. Well, to accept anot, its still up to u, no matter what, its ur skin anyway.

 

why so uptight? who wont know whats an apprentice is?

[xiaoya-]

Originally posted by fleaz@April 29, 2007 03:35 pm

is it advisable to use a tattoo to cover a scar? of course firstly i want this tattoo, covering up the scar is a secondary objective

i think its all depends on the scar itself man..

 

questions like

how long has the wound healed?

what kind of wound is that?

locations of the wound?

what kind of art you are looking for?

colored or juz black and grey?

etc etc..

 

anyway, i do see ppl tattoo their scars away though.

[raphael]

Originally posted by xiaoya-@May 02, 2007 01:56 pm

there is actually more than a way to practice other than to get human skin dude. i always believe in if he/she can actually make miracles on the papers, when it comes to hand on, it shouldnt be a problem.

yes, we dont expect god-like skill from newbies, so that is the reason why ppl are reluctant to sacrify their skins to them despite the cheap deal they are giving. if you do, you do.

 

i believe ppl here are just giving their good opinions to you. Well, to accept anot, its still up to u, no matter what, its ur skin anyway.

 

why so uptight? who wont know whats an apprentice is?

in the end it's up to individuals whether willing to let newbie try. just like some salons where they train hair stylist.

 

in the end, still need to use human hair to practice. if you think practicising on paper is enough, i.m.o, i think you're wrong. then hair stylist could just practice on wigs then become professional liao, why they still need to work it with human hair? if this the case, every comic artist could become tattooist because they always draw?

 

yes i agreed with you if he can miracles on paper, he could do it on skin without much problem, provided the guy has some natural talent..

 

that machine and a pencil is different stuff. way u handle it also different. way you color and shade is a little similar. that's why practice is needed.

 

just some of my thoughts.

[Sn0w_MaN]

well of cause need to practice but i think if a newbie wanna to practice on a real hand is abit risky cause he/she is not really up to standard yet. I mean which of his or her fren wanna to let the newbie artist try is up to them. I guess it's better to master and build up the confident level before u every try on others.

[xiaoya-]

Originally posted by Small Machine@May 02, 2007 04:27 pm

in the end it's up to individuals whether willing to let newbie try. just like some salons where they train hair stylist.

 

in the end, still need to use human hair to practice. if you think practicising on paper is enough, i.m.o, i think you're wrong. then hair stylist could just practice on wigs then become professional liao, why they still need to work it with human hair? if this the case, every comic artist could become tattooist because they always draw?

 

yes i agreed with you if he can miracles on paper, he could do it on skin without much problem, provided the guy has some natural talent..

 

that machine and a pencil is different stuff. way u handle it also different. way you color and shade is a little similar. that's why practice is needed.

 

just some of my thoughts.

 

correct me if im wrong, i think when a hairstylist whom just started, they usually practice their cutting skills using wigs. no? tsktsk.

 

what i know is, if a tattooist cant draw, there is no way that he can actually do a nice tattoo of his own. all he is capable of doing is to do Flash work.

 

skills can be mastered by practicing but not drawing. =)

 

a tattooist is always a tattooist, there is no way that he can be a tattoo artist. hope u know the difference. =)

[oO.pRinCeSs.Oo]

Originally posted by Small Machine@April 28, 2007 12:54 am

erm, just wanna ask any of you guys would willing give amatuer level guy do tattoo? let say he charges max $50?

i wun.. cos this will be with me forever. i wun wan to spend tat kind of money to do laser which is more ex

[fleaz]

Originally posted by xiaoya-@May 02, 2007 01:59 pm

questions like

how long has the wound healed?

what kind of wound is that?

locations of the wound?

what kind of art you are looking for?

colored or juz black and grey?

etc etc..

the wounds has healed for months

one is keloid-like scar about the size of a M&M's, the other is an exhaust burn (healed already just different skin tone)

on the calf

lady figure

black and grey

[lionfuR-]

(Small Machine @ April 28, 2007 12:54 am)

erm, just wanna ask any of you guys would willing give amatuer level guy do tattoo? let say he charges max $50?

 

 

well i tink if i would to make a tattoo now, quality will mean more to me than the cost of it...

i made my tattoos when i was younger with my frens.. and they were cheaper than those places at fareast peninsula e.g but quality isnt well done..

 

i tink some of us may have made tattoos rashly and you will tend to regret after that.. so its better for you to make urs with someone's whose standard you will trust and not regret after that(though you can spend somemore to cover up with a new work).. quality>cost man...

[lionfuR-]

in the end it's up to individuals whether willing to let newbie try. just like some salons where they train hair stylist.

 

in the end, still need to use human hair to practice.

 

hair can grow back man....

[shithead8883]

I understand that when starting out, my sinseh always says go market and get a pig's skin to try on(well tht is pretty old school and i aint sure whattechnique they are using now), then when comfortable, try it out on your own leg (tats the graduation ceremony) then you can actually do on ppl's skinz...(but that will only means you can do basic piece ie. novice)

 

pig's skin will never match to the real one cos a person will flinch (at times) but the dead pig wont. But the texture of skin is closest to human skin for you to pull and ink on....

 

pardon me but to actually draw beautifully doesnt make him/her a good artist as the medium is different. To shade on paper and skin is different as the mixing of colours and pigments absorbing colours in skin defers from ppl to ppl, skin tearing from over exertion and stuffs... this need experience and there is where you can see the difference btw a novice and an artist...... so the phrase is Highly Misleading but nevertheless with hard work on practising drawing daily, you can understand a pic better and also do/create custom design rather the stanciling from flash...

 

And i think the point Xiaoya is trying to make is that if a novice is trying out to gain experience, well that is natural and understandable in the basis of apparentice but the million dollar question is Just How Confident Is The Apparentice Himself?? before he actually use the machine and coil and start inking happily away?? what level of training did he recieve B4? how confident is he? its not just say you buy a machine and a powerbox and go google and read up on the 1001 complete dummies guide to tattooing and then start inking on skinz liao and BINGO!! you are an artist now...... sorry to be a skeptic cos i've seen too many failed products from those so call novice (not even close to 60% and they have the audacity to start inking away and call themselves artist) and thieves taking others photos and paste inside their own portfolio as samples when they cant do no sh*t....... IMO

 

well let me post another question to the apparentice... is the intention to do on the skin actually to practice or as a money makin tool to earn big bucks? or to boost up his ego that he has graduated from paper to skinz.... think about that ....

[stwb1981]

i agree wif shithead...

rite shithead mr tatoo siao...

[raphael]

shithead has some points right.

 

as for the failed products, what does the errors and mistakes that they make?

 

the apparentice of course do on skinz to practice after grad, but the guy's sinseh still have to charge the customer a little right?

[shithead8883]

as for the failed products, what does the errors and mistakes that they make?

 

Well i have seen dragons tat look like snake.... tribal dragons with toes that swell (over colorise on the portion which makes it enlarged) etc.....

 

the apparentice of course do on skinz to practice after grad, but the guy's sinseh still have to charge the customer a little right?

 

that my friend is definately right.. there is no free lunch ya? but seriously unless under guidance if no confidence dun do lah ..... it is a matter of ethics......

[fleaz]

any artist(s) to intro to do portrait tattoos?

[kmax]

http://www.mistercartoon.com/

[FOXY]

good tattoo aint cheap and cheap tattoo aint good

[gucci]

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