SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

[paithorn]

wahaha................so overwhelming

[silverwing73]

eh, why you guys like seems to have many thing to change one arh ?????

 

Until now, my milage around 17,000km been changing only EO and oil filter and transmission oil.

 

Only recently changed to iridium plugs, don't feel any difference leh

 

I see SW9000 changing Roller, EO+filter+transmission oil, Air filter, sparkplugs, synchronising.

 

Questions now :

 

1. Change roller for what and is it a must ?

2. what is synchronising ?

3. What is final drive oil ?

 

Heehee just only know how to ride and some basic knowledge like EO change

[Sensible]

wahaha................so overwhelming

 

So Bro, what u waiting for?

 

[scoobydoo]

Until now, my milage around 17,000km been changing only EO and oil filter and transmission oil.

at 17k, you've done about what's required and as recommended by the manufacturer. most of us has passed 20+k and if you check the manual, more would be required at that "window". of course there'll be riders who'll change only when something breaks while some prolong a part's use life judging on their experience/usage pattern (e.g. change belt after 35k), but that's up to individual. and there're kiasi riders who'll change the tires just becoz the tires are 3 years old even when the treads are still ok

its like drinking 凉茶 herbal tea, some drink regularly but some will only drink when their nose bleeds... hahaha

 

Questions now :

 

1. Change roller for what and is it a must ?

rollers are the stuffs that changes the "gear ratio" by rolling in/outwards inside the variator. a smooth rolling (or sliding if using Dr Pulley) roller will allow smoother transition between speeds or acceleration as compared to worn out ones. imagine the rollers get stuck (don't need all) and refuse to come "down" when u are riding at 90km/h? only 1 speed, slowing down/stopping could become very tricky, worse if there're "obstacles" around... si bay suay + rollers si bay jia lat = siow liow

 

2. what is synchronising ?

SWing's engine is twin bore, i guess that's to coordinate their "firing". good coordination gives less vibration, smoother ride and possibly better fuel economy. alike a 2-man canoe, if front n back rowers don't coordinate well, they can't get optimal performance/speed even if they row their balls out

 

3. What is final drive oil ?

transmission oil

Edited February 24, 2009 by scoobydoo

[silverwing73]

at 17k, you've done about what's required and as recommended by the manufacturer. most of us has passed 20+k and if you check the manual, more would be required at that "window". of course there'll be riders who'll change only when something breaks while some prolong a part's use life judging on their experience/usage pattern (e.g. change belt after 35k), but that's up to individual. and there're kiasi riders who'll change the tires just becoz the tires are 3 years old even when the treads are still ok

its like drinking 凉茶 herbal tea, some drink regularly but some will only drink when their nose bleeds... hahaha

 

Questions now :

 

1. Change roller for what and is it a must ?

rollers are the stuffs that changes the "gear ratio" by rolling in/outwards inside the variator. a smooth rolling (or sliding if using Dr Pulley) roller will allow smoother transition between speeds or acceleration as compared to worn out ones. imagine the rollers get stuck (don't need all) and refuse to come "down" when u are riding at 90km/h? only 1 speed, slowing down/stopping could become very tricky, worse if there're "obstacles" around... si bay suay + rollers si bay jia lat = siow liow

 

2. what is synchronising ?

SWing's engine is twin bore, i guess that's to coordinate their "firing". good coordination gives less vibration, smoother ride and possibly better fuel economy. alike a 2-man canoe, if front n back rowers don't coordinate well, they can't get optimal performance/speed even if they row their balls out

 

3. What is final drive oil ?

transmission oil

 

Thanks, you sure have a funny way of explaining :angel:but it is interesting and funny in a sense:thumb:

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

at 17k, you've done about what's required and as recommended by the manufacturer. most of us has passed 20+k and if you check the manual, more would be required at that "window". of course there'll be riders who'll change only when something breaks while some prolong a part's use life judging on their experience/usage pattern (e.g. change belt after 35k), but that's up to individual. and there're kiasi riders who'll change the tires just becoz the tires are 3 years old even when the treads are still ok

its like drinking 凉茶 herbal tea, some drink regularly but some will only drink when their nose bleeds... hahaha

 

Questions now :

 

1. Change roller for what and is it a must ?

rollers are the stuffs that changes the "gear ratio" by rolling in/outwards inside the variator. a smooth rolling (or sliding if using Dr Pulley) roller will allow smoother transition between speeds or acceleration as compared to worn out ones. imagine the rollers get stuck (don't need all) and refuse to come "down" when u are riding at 90km/h? only 1 speed, slowing down/stopping could become very tricky, worse if there're "obstacles" around... si bay suay + rollers si bay jia lat = siow liow

 

2. what is synchronising ?

SWing's engine is twin bore, i guess that's to coordinate their "firing". good coordination gives less vibration, smoother ride and possibly better fuel economy. alike a 2-man canoe, if front n back rowers don't coordinate well, they can't get optimal performance/speed even if they row their balls out

 

3. What is final drive oil ?

transmission oil

 

how is the tires?

[SW9000]

how is the tires?

 

how is the fork?

[Andydy]

dun have T400 lah..... 08 SW400 considering now....

 

why you want to change from 600 to 400 wor?

[SW9000]

 

I see SW9000 changing Roller, EO+filter+transmission oil, Air filter, sparkplugs, synchronising.

 

 

I changed roller at 18k because when open up to clean (clear the dust), my mech realised that 3 of the rollers were not round anymore, i.e. with flatten sides.

No choice but to replace, if not might damage the variator.

I suspect the rollers can't last as long as the belt, which is similar to my EVO250 where 2x roller change = 1x belt change.

 

Air filter generally can use up to 20k after that should replace liao, unlike foam type where you should be cleaning it every month. Don't make your engine overwork due to poor air intake or unbalanced cylinders.

 

Everything I set at 18k/36k so no need to make extra trip to shop. 1 time finish can last up to 9 months with just an oil change in between.

[SW9000]

why you want to change from 600 to 400 wor?

 

600... we can't keep up.

 

400... can ride next to us. Got plenty time to enjoy the scenery.

[Andydy]

600... we can't keep up.

 

400... can ride next to us. Got plenty time to enjoy the scenery.

 

600 can also ride slowly mah. but need to pump petrol more often.. =|

[paithorn]

why you want to change from 600 to 400 wor?

 

I am really ASKING MYSELF that too!!!!!! damn................

[paithorn]

600... we can't keep up.

 

400... can ride next to us. Got plenty time to enjoy the scenery.

 

with 600, scenery nicer....try it!!!

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

I changed roller at 18k because when open up to clean (clear the dust), my mech realised that 3 of the rollers were not round anymore, i.e. with flatten sides.

No choice but to replace, if not might damage the variator.

I suspect the rollers can't last as long as the belt, which is similar to my EVO250 where 2x roller change = 1x belt change.

 

Air filter generally can use up to 20k after that should replace liao, unlike foam type where you should be cleaning it every month. Don't make your engine overwork due to poor air intake or unbalanced cylinders.

 

Everything I set at 18k/36k so no need to make extra trip to shop. 1 time finish can last up to 9 months with just an oil change in between.

 

where did you replace your roller? knt?

[scoobydoo]

how is the tires?

need to jog more to get rid... hahahaha

 

much much better than stock

[scoobydoo]

spoke to clifford of K&T... his prices for the belt, rollers n clip r more expensive than FJT by about $30, workmanship $50. if wanna save, can go buy from FJT then go K&T for installation

[scoobydoo]

I am really ASKING MYSELF that too!!!!!! damn................

its ok lah... sometimes mosquito bite backside... join the 400 gang n move on lor

hiaz... now order hyperpro needs 2-3 months to arrive

[scoobydoo]

I changed roller at 18k because when open up to clean (clear the dust), my mech realised that 3 of the rollers were not round anymore, i.e. with flatten sides.

wah lau... then i better quickly change my rollers

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

wah lau... then i better quickly change my rollers

 

scoobydoo abit off topic. which mid tier you recommended me that time?

any idea for fookoontan?

[scoobydoo]

foo kon tan grant thornton... my niece spent 2+ years slogging there

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

foo kon tan grant thornton... my niece spent 2+ years slogging there

 

i see.

any other good recommendation?

lol..

kinda lost man..

[SW9000]

where did you replace your roller? knt?

 

Yup.

 

spoke to clifford of K&T... his prices for the belt, rollers n clip r more expensive than FJT by about $30, workmanship $50. if wanna save, can go buy from FJT then go K&T for installation

 

They service big bikes... so cannot expect scooters specialist type of pricing.

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

spoke to clifford of K&T... his prices for the belt, rollers n clip r more expensive than FJT by about $30, workmanship $50. if wanna save, can go buy from FJT then go K&T for installation

 

workmanship 50dollar will the charges be different if we bring our own stuff?

[Andydy]

I am really ASKING MYSELF that too!!!!!! damn................

 

haha. pengz.

[scoobydoo]

on the way home... wet floor + new tires = riding at http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Animals/turtle-e90.gif speed

 

then... along PIE near town hall road exit about 7pm...

 

"its a bird? its a plane?" its red... its a burger... its scarab http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Transports/flying-044.gif past meeeeee

 

is that really you scarab?