Yamaha Diversion 900

Oxygen · May 22, 2004

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@May 22 2004, 12:13 AM
Hey Oxygen,
This is the place where my head roll for sometime thinking how to encounter this problem I had few designs atleast 3 design after counseling with SK...he and I agreed with one design...which he agrees it is beautiful and strong...

1st design is a copy of european design which cost about $300 to $360..too pricy! It uses tubular steel pipes which SK do not recommend as it is weak near the joints.which can't stand the wave of vibration traveling outward...

2nd design is still using the tubular steel pipes but there is no connection at the top end so it is like those of kawa or honda hornet pillion handles without the joints, SK says it is not easy to bend to the "S" shape..there is no obstruction in this design at the back but cost...$280 to $320 if they do..also pricy...

3rd design using the half inch steel bar to bend but lower and only using bolts at the joints, in normal design were most of your brackets have 2 bolts at the front closer to the seat but at the back the joint is welded, but mind I have a total of 4 bolts at the joints, front 2 bolts and back 2 bolts so whenever I need to remove the back brake cover I need to remove 2 back bolts and loosen the front bolts thats it I have access to the back cover...and it cost $220...

Frankly I don't know why need to open the brake light cover (fairing) there is no reason to open that cover. If you want change the brake bulb, there are 2 screws on the brake cover itself to change the bulb...if you want to remove the hold assembly there are '2' 10mm bolt at the back inside which access by removing the seat...thats all. I hope I have answered your questions...

SilverGhost,

Yo........like that same as mine what!!!!!!!!! Shall take a closer look when we meet liao.

DiabolicZero · May 22, 2004

Guys any1 knows how much our front fairing and headlight cover cost?

Cos I just had an accident earlier at around 8pm in front of Khatib mrt stn. Crashed and fell after hitting the rear of a lorry. Traffic lights was turning amber, then this lorry in front of me alredi inside yellow box, so of course natural thing is to pass by the junction right? NO! When I powered up the throttle, the lorry driver jammed brake for dunno what reason..unable to stop in time and banged against his rear, lost balance and fell.

Damages :

1) Front fairing cracked and beyond repair

2) Headlight cracked and beyond repair

3) Engine guards bent and scratched (but at least can go SK to hv it fixed foc)

4) Balancer scratched.

5) pannier scratched

6) bike alignment dunno whether affected. (how to check huh)

I'm stil covered under comprehensive insurance but my excess is 1600/- plus I'll lose about another 600/- for NCB in subsequent yrs. So total is 2200/- if I decide to claim insurance. also heard that insurance companies will charge u higher than a person who never made any claims b4 for subsequent renewals. Is that true? If yes, how much higher?

Now dunno if can repair the bike in time for the PD trip or not.

Sigh... :cry:

SiLvErGhOsT · May 23, 2004

Originally posted by Casper4XXX@May 23 2004, 05:53 AM
Cos I just had an accident earlier at around 8pm in front of Khatib mrt stn. Crashed and fell after hitting the rear of a lorry. Traffic lights was turning amber, then this lorry in front of me alredi inside yellow box, so of course natural thing is to pass by the junction right? NO! When I powered up the throttle, the lorry driver jammed brake for dunno what reason..unable to stop in time and banged against his rear, lost balance and fell.

Now dunno if can repair the bike in time for the PD trip or not.

Bro CasperXXX,

It is not your fault (maybe in the eye of the law you are -why are you so close!.. but they may weigh it according to the incident-accident time,place, and other factors like, road situation and conditions) from my view it is the lorry drivers fault so you report to the ins as what had happen the accident happen in the yellow box....he jammed his brake inside the box...! for no reason...

I know WHY? he jammed the brake... with your high sscreen you look like UNCLE, from his review mirror, so the driver panic and jammed the brakes he thought you going to book him ...This is my imagination, can be correct...!

IF YOU ARE GOING TO CLAIM AGAINST HIM...

Get the damage access by your or his ins co (to find out how much is the repair)...I don't know how much it going to cost...and it is not neccessary to claim from your own ins if it is lesser then the ins access... more then $3k+ to 4k just go ahead an claim your own damage claim, your premium goes up but do your calculation...whether is worth the claim...

If the lorry driver come forward to pay...Arrr no chance..if he did let your wkshp know about it and let them deal with him directly...

Becareful the lorry driver might claim from you instead...maybe to replace his brakelight cover or a small dent in his bumper so he can replace the whole bumper or something else...and might twist the whole incident..!

How about guys can you'll help here...any Idea...maybe much,much better...idea.!

:goodluck:

Palary · May 23, 2004

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@May 23 2004, 01:09 PM

I know WHY? he jammed the brake... with your high sscreen you look like UNCLE, from his review mirror, so the driver panic and jammed the brakes he thought you going to book him ...This is my imagination, can be correct...!

Maybe correct, I saw some lorry who was ahead of me who wants to turn left but didn't dare to becos of double line in the centre. I tail him for a while and saw him make a u-turn at the next junction just to go back to the Turn.

Be careful when riding a Divvy...It can causes unpredictable things to happen to those in front.

DiabolicZero · May 23, 2004

Thought the lorry driver was at fault for slamming his brakes when he was inside the yellow box, but the fact is I banged onto him from the rear. Like that if claim against his insurance can meh? though for such cases normally its the last veh who will kena claim insurance by others?

I've spoken to him, he said his lorry is ok and he dun intend to lodge GIA report thru IDAC. Do u think I should stil proceed to lodge GIA report saying tt he slammed brakes for no reason when the t/lights were alredi amber and he was inside the yellow box? It's too late for me to stop..if I stop...would hv ended up inside the middle of the yellow box 2gether with him. And if the insurance co. forwards the report to TP. 1st thing they'll do is to deduct 6 pts for careless riding right? Facts r not on my side.

The repairs headache also cos HL dun have the stock for the fairing and headlight..may hv to wait about 1-2 mths for it to arrive..

SiLvErGhOsT · May 23, 2004

Originally posted by Casper4XXX@May 23 2004, 05:14 PM
Thought the lorry driver was at fault for slamming his brakes when he was inside the yellow box, but the fact is I banged onto him from the rear. Like that if claim against his insurance can meh? though for such cases normally its the last veh who will kena claim insurance by others?

I've spoken to him, he said his lorry is ok and he dun intend to lodge GIA report thru IDAC. Do u think I should stil proceed to lodge GIA report saying tt he slammed brakes for no reason when the t/lights were alredi amber and he was inside the yellow box? It's too late for me to stop..if I stop...would hv ended up inside the middle of the yellow box 2gether with him. And if the insurance co. forwards the report to TP. 1st thing they'll do is to deduct 6 pts for careless riding right? Facts r not on my side.

The repairs headache also cos HL dun have the stock for the fairing and headlight..may hv to wait about 1-2 mths for it to arrive..

Bro Casper,

How come you right behind him... never follow a lorry ,pick up and a taxi-normally riders ride near the lane so incase any unexpected move by the driver infront of you, you can always have the escape route...

Try to ask around, you hit his back inside the yellow box no reason for him to stop there or jammed his brake there...you may end up with points the lorry driver too...points is nothing I have points too but if you are a carefull rider why worry by the time you know 24mths already over...unless you already have couple of points...then you can start to worry. if the TP call up you can always tell them the incident and the driver point of view of your bike...Diversion

Unless you hit him before the stop line of the junction then it is your fault inconsider riding and hazard to yourself and other road users...

About your bike have you ask the HL about the cost of the damage items an etc.. how much the total cost a rough roundup figure...! if it is less then $2k do yourself...

stop wasting time with the claims...

And don't worry your bike frame never run out of alignment unless it is a very serious accident most of the impact was or were taken by the head cowling...unless your front suspension spoke is bent invert by the impact...then the chances for your alignment is effected...trust me.

How about you any bruises or minor fractures...lucky you are alone...

:goodluck:

melvinho · May 24, 2004

Hope you are alright Casper...

Take care!!!

Oxygen · May 24, 2004

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@May 23 2004, 09:32 PM
Bro Casper,
How come you right behind him... never follow a lorry ,pick up and a taxi-normally riders ride near the lane so incase any unexpected move by the driver infront of you, you can always have the escape route...
Try to ask around, you hit his back inside the yellow box no reason for him to stop there or jammed his brake there...you may end up with points the lorry driver too...points is nothing I have points too but if you are a carefull rider why worry by the time you know 24mths already over...unless you already have couple of points...then you can start to worry. if the TP call up you can always tell them the incident and the driver point of view of your bike...Diversion
Unless you hit him before the stop line of the junction then it is your fault inconsider riding and hazard to yourself and other road users...
About your bike have you ask the HL about the cost of the damage items an etc.. how much the total cost a rough roundup figure...! if it is less then $2k do yourself...
stop wasting time with the claims...
And don't worry your bike frame never run out of alignment unless it is a very serious accident most of the impact was or were taken by the head cowling...unless your front suspension spoke is bent invert by the impact...then the chances for your alignment is effected...trust me.
How about you any bruises or minor fractures...lucky you are alone...
:goodluck:

yo...guess who i saw today at HL???

bro casper...... and his divv.... I saw the condition of the bike and sadly to say he wouldn't be able to make it to the PD trip liao. Like what he had mention on the damages.... it properly take at least 1 month to repair. About the front head fairing I personally think that it is still repairable with some carbon composit work. Like that can save a bit lor.... or another alternative is to install a hella spotlight at that area lor even more swee... confirm no divv have one..... Sorry bro casper...just pulling your legs..........

Like that we have to miss bro casper liao.....

SiLvErGhOsT · May 24, 2004

Originally posted by Oxygen@May 24 2004, 08:18 PM
I saw the condition of the bike and sadly to say he wouldn't be able to make it to the PD trip liao. Like that we have to miss bro casper liao.....

Hey Casper,

Don't worry we can meet up, not neccessary you must bring in your bike ( I don't think so it can be ready in time for the PD trip) WE CAN ALWAYS GIVE YOU A LIFT!... let your bike rest in the wkshp...

Today I went down to chong aik at desker rd...they have the jacket but XXL for black and XL for blue,silver ones only...same price $140, glove for $40. I am using XL...

At chap lee the clover cost about $340 to $360 for tropical climate use...nicer no flabbiness around the arms...

As what oxygen says you can cut some cost by repairing the fairing... there is a local company repairs and modifies fairing using fibreglass for bikes and they do respraying too...I saw the advertisment in one of the two wheelers magazine some time ago...if you can ask around...I try to search for you...the address.

Don't worry... :cheer: cheer up...

DiabolicZero · May 24, 2004

Bros, thanks the all the advice and help..realli appreciate it...

No choice leh...I cant exactly remember where i hit the lorry..was it before the stop-line or after?All I know at that pt in time is to stop the bike...but luck was not on my side.I cant veer to the right or left cos there were cars. My gf was also with me...first thing after dropping the bike is to check her for damages..surprisingly..luckily only bruises while i suffered abrasions on my knee and elbow..if she injured dunno wher to replace...

confirmed not claiming insurance..cos wil stand to lose NCB and premium increase..not worth it..so actually if u think of it..why are we paying so much for comprehensive when every time something happen..we think n think whether want 2 claim or not..like that might as well get 2nd party can liao...comprehensive pay more but dun dare claim..what's the pt man!

report insurance also no use cos it's words against words..i'll stand to lose out since i was the one who banged his rear...also lucky it's a lorry not a private car if not the driver sure claim me until siao..

Yups, kenny from HL was very helpful..told me tt I may be able to repair the crack / chip-off part at the crowling..if successful can really save a bit cos the crowling is ok except 4 the U-shaped crack directly underneath the headlight.

If can saving on crowling, can use the $ to change the stay.If not, think I'll change the crowling 1st since no choice.

Silverghost / O2 - Can help me check which shop can do good quality fiberglass / carbon composit work and respray. HL / Kenny said he can try asking First Motors (opp TP HQ) but no guarantee tt they will be able to mend it back. More choice, got more chance of getting it repaired.

Below are the prices for the spare parts quoted by HL:

1) Crowling - 850/-

2) Headlight - 185/-

3) Stay - 230/-

4) OEM Windshield - 68/-

(All prices excluding GST and workmanship)

OMD · May 24, 2004

Casper,

Sorry for the late reply, as mentioned to you in the SMS, I was on vacation. Let me check and see what I can get from my sources. Fairings or cowlings can be repaired locally. There is even a respray shop that can do top quality spray painting like from the factory.

I will try my best to call you tomorrow to tell you my findings. Hopefully we can all ride to PD.

As for insurance, I believe in maximising the whole thing. As you said, why pay for the comprehensive plan and then no claim!!! Else, why not just get 3rd party cover.

From,

OMD

Oxygen · May 25, 2004

Originally posted by OMD@May 24 2004, 11:33 PM
Casper,

Sorry for the late reply, as mentioned to you in the SMS, I was on vacation. Let me check and see what I can get from my sources. Fairings or cowlings can be repaired locally. There is even a respray shop that can do top quality spray painting like from the factory.

I will try my best to call you tomorrow to tell you my findings. Hopefully we can all ride to PD.

As for insurance, I believe in maximising the whole thing. As you said, why pay for the comprehensive plan and then no claim!!! Else, why not just get 3rd party cover.

From,
OMD

Right... that is why I insure 2nd party but again all repair will have to be bear by me if I am at fault..... confirm no claim.

Oxygen · May 25, 2004

Originally posted by Casper4XXX@May 24 2004, 10:32 PM
Bros, thanks the all the advice and help..realli appreciate it...

No choice leh...I cant exactly remember where i hit the lorry..was it before the stop-line or after?All I know at that pt in time is to stop the bike...but luck was not on my side.I cant veer to the right or left cos there were cars. My gf was also with me...first thing after dropping the bike is to check her for damages..surprisingly..luckily only bruises while i suffered abrasions on my knee and elbow..if she injured dunno wher to replace...

confirmed not claiming insurance..cos wil stand to lose NCB and premium increase..not worth it..so actually if u think of it..why are we paying so much for comprehensive when every time something happen..we think n think whether want 2 claim or not..like that might as well get 2nd party can liao...comprehensive pay more but dun dare claim..what's the pt man!

report insurance also no use cos it's words against words..i'll stand to lose out since i was the one who banged his rear...also lucky it's a lorry not a private car if not the driver sure claim me until siao..

Yups, kenny from HL was very helpful..told me tt I may be able to repair the crack / chip-off part at the crowling..if successful can really save a bit cos the crowling is ok except 4 the U-shaped crack directly underneath the headlight.
If can saving on crowling, can use the $ to change the stay.If not, think I'll change the crowling 1st since no choice.

Silverghost / O2 - Can help me check which shop can do good quality fiberglass / carbon composit work and respray. HL / Kenny said he can try asking First Motors (opp TP HQ) but no guarantee tt they will be able to mend it back. More choice, got more chance of getting it repaired.

Below are the prices for the spare parts quoted by HL:
1) Crowling - 850/-
2) Headlight - 185/-
3) Stay - 230/-
4) OEM Windshield - 68/-
(All prices excluding GST and workmanship)

bro casper..... i saw some fairing workshop at AMK industrial park. Let me know I can bring you there.

Julian.T · May 25, 2004

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@May 22 2004, 02:42 PM
Hi Julian,
If you are thinking to get a big bike always do you part research to any bike you like.
Don't just jump into the pool..there are alot of people they look for beautiful and powerful bike...jump in- road tax, insurance, even keeping up with monthly payment also problem...
You look like a wise guy looking for all rounder smart move but "the Diversion" you are looking for No More in production last year 2003 December was the last production...if you are looking for a 2nd hand the chances are very slim If you can get thats good...
Always do your home work...research!!(magazines,internet,comments from bikers)

Myself why I choose Diversion...
1)Shaft driven(no need to oil chain,or every 3yr change one not forgeting sprockets)
2)Engine Air cool ( No radiator problem hose leaking or coolent problems)
3)center stand (washing is a breeze)
4)Side panniers(2 sizes regular size and bigger size can put in your wardrobe)
5)Accessories not much so you save there...alot $$$

take care

Thanks for giving me some info, SilverG. I do had a talk with my mech, asking him some info on this bike...Guess he does not have much info on the bike till i told him its that new "TP" bike then he say "Ohhh that one"...

Ya, Diversion had stopped it's production...Why Yamaha wanna stop production? (is it they can't profit much as it's too all rounded bike they have produced?)

My mech say it's typical of them to stop if the bike is not selling well. (maybe due to majority ppl wanna go for faster,meaner machines) And bikes which stop production, have to be careful...Coz if they have enough stocks,spareparts or not...if were to order from oversea, it might take a very long time??

But all i want is a reliable class 2 bike which require

- less manintence = Engine Air/oil cooled (no more coolent problems, radiator problem)

- running on shaft (no more chain lub but mech say that shaft driven machine, there's something inside the part very ex, if were to replace might cost thousands, i forget liao but i think with proper maintence, should be no problem)

- fuel consumption good (then again class2 bike, how u determind good or not...)

- able to go touring with comfort (dun think a 2A bike can do that, so left with class2 bikes as thailand will be my ultimate goal)

- can zoom in and out around the city (gf live in tamp, i stay in jurong, so everytime send her home n back, dun think my 2B bike will tahan in such a long run not to mention stressing the bike if i throttle more)

- able to fix on two side panniers n maybe a topbox which look nice on the bike. (for storage purpose, had enough of everytime have to carry a big bag with me and carry my helmets around while goin shoppin with gf)

All this i mention is like = A Diversion! Unless a better all rounded bike comes along...Guess Diversion will be the bike i'm gonna get.

I know bout ST11 too as all rounded bike, but heard from fren who ride ST11 before comments that it's hot riding in the city and can't really zoom in and out...

Hmmm....insurance will be cheaper a bit? As 900cc compare to 1100cc??

Hee, dun say i stingy or what, i'm more of a budget person if there's things to compare for better options...

Btw, i saw Shaji on his bike at pioneer rd,Tuas when it was on a rainy day few weeks ago, i was inside the taxi (dun like riding on my 2b bike when it's raining) and he was stoppin beside the taxi. His bike is very nice! With full fairing...Black color, of coz his name is printed on his diversion that's why i know...Hee. Any of you guys install the full fairing beside him? have to order from oversea right?

Sorry to hear that Casper4xxx got into an accident, hope you are alright...then again your bike might take a very long time to repair?? 1-2mths? Super lost form man.. I know some hard core riders cannot live without their bikes for such a long duration...

Palary · May 25, 2004

Originally posted by Julian.T@May 25 2004, 01:00 PM

My mech say it's typical of them to stop if the bike is not selling well. (maybe due to majority ppl wanna go for faster,meaner machines) And bikes which stop production, have to be careful...Coz if they have enough stocks,spareparts or not...if were to order from oversea, it might take a very long time??

Btw, i saw Shaji on his bike at pioneer rd,Tuas when it was on a rainy day few weeks ago, i was inside the taxi (dun like riding on my 2b bike when it's raining) and he was stoppin beside the taxi. His bike is very nice! With full fairing...Black color, of coz his name is printed on his diversion that's why i know...Hee. Any of you guys install the full fairing beside him? have to order from oversea right?

But advantage iof the Diversion is that HL are still responsible for those TP bikes in Singapore, so they still carry spares..

Another Diversion with the full fairing is Boliao's..

Anyway met Lycee_can at Kallang KFC last week with his new TDM_900..

Shaji and myself used to drop in there every now and then. U may want to drop in see see..

haroze · May 25, 2004

Hi Divvy riders.....!

Hey so sorry to hear about Casper...! I hope you are alright.......! Ddid'nt know that our Divvy is a very expensive to repair...wow...! Yup...lesson learned not to follow behind heavy vehicle too close.

Bro Julian T.....it is a common phrase for almost of the machenic here were to say that when a bike/model has stopped production coz of poor market share...etc..etc..etc..!

......

What ever the phrase he say is purely....buuulls...! One of the reason is that it has reached the ten year cycle of production:bounce: The very 1st production was in 1984...until the last production...2003. Do you know that the Diversion900 is the best seller in Europe in it class (Holland and Germany has the most market share)

The only all-rounder bike that had covered almost all the continent by the two ducth couple...(total journey..over 230,000km with no engine damaged:thumb: mine you with a side-car attached)...!The Yamaha engineers were so surprised with the performance that they make sure they will have a smooth journey to the next continent and that was Africa...phew..! Well ..so much so for the breif history.Ah..ST1100 has stopped production..! Looking foward of you to own the divvy 900...cheers:thumb: Hope you will joint the club...!

haroze · May 25, 2004

Hi guys...

the trip to Port Dickson as being planned to meet up at @0630 hrs is too early and as to move off @ 0645 hrs. Considering that me who some time will have to come back at about 2200 hrs from work.Give me time to rest as I am favourable to meet up at latest 0730hrs.As mention in one of the post is that there is no need to rush to scream our bike to PD. Lets have a pleasent ride instead. So this will be the plan:-

1st:-meet up at Jln Ahmad Ibrahim Shell @0700hrs.(along Aye towards Tuas after Teban f/over)

2nd:-by0730hrs when all are there..we'll proceed to 2nd link Esso.

3rd:-by 1000hrs must reach Pagoh...the 1st stop.

4th:-slightly b4 noon or sooo..we'll reach PD

5th:-from there we can plan the next journey......

6th:-any better suggestion...are welcome

DiabolicZero · May 25, 2004

Originally posted by Oxygen@May 25 2004, 09:44 AM
bro casper..... i saw some fairing workshop at AMK industrial park. Let me know I can bring you there.

Yo bro O2, I went down HL again today and requested HL to help me check on the price for carbon fibre repairing and respray. Budget 250/-. Think should not be a problem getting it fixed but it's just the quality of workmanship. I'll let u know if i need help. Thanks.

OMD - Bro, thanks for dropping by HL today.

DiabolicZero · May 25, 2004

Originally posted by Julian.T@May 25 2004, 01:00 PM
Sorry to hear that Casper4xxx got into an accident, hope you are alright...then again your bike might take a very long time to repair?? 1-2mths? Super lost form man.. I know some hard core riders cannot live without their bikes for such a long duration...

Dun worry bout this bike not having spare parts cos as long as TP is using it...we'll sure hv spare part support from HL! And as we all know, govt dun scrap their vehicles that fast so what i estimate is tt we'll hv support from HL for at least the next 5 yrs.

This bike has also been around for very long..proven records...heard tt TP trial-tested both ST11 and divvy last time.but most of them prefer divvy cos its easier to maintain and easier to squeeze thru traffic...my gf and myself are working office hours...everyday i'll hv to pass by cte to go back yishun..can u imagine the jam during these times?but so far i've yet to hv any problems squeezing thru cars..S4 can go thru..divvy most prob can go thru also...but hv to estimate estimate also lah...it all depends on the road situation...cannot squeeze just follow the car queue loh...drivers wun force u out of the lane..but sometimes also got guai lan ones...so make 'teach' them a lesson...the more they tailgate u the more slow u go...u see them trying to accelerate by overtaking u from the left...accelerate as well in your own lane...they'll get stuck and eventually return behind u..haha...need to teach some drivers how to show respect to bikes sometimes..really too much some of them..esp cab drivers / nissan cefiros / drivers who hv no $ to buy bmws but try to make their normal saloon cars like sports car / mercedes..shame on these pple! even most bmws drivers know how to understand / give way to bikes...

Custom · May 25, 2004

Hi Casper,

Sorry to hear that as was on holiday till today.

hope that everythngs well.

Oxygen · May 25, 2004

Originally posted by Casper4XXX@May 26 2004, 12:15 AM
Dun worry bout this bike not having spare parts cos as long as TP is using it...we'll sure hv spare part support from HL! And as we all know, govt dun scrap their vehicles that fast so what i estimate is tt we'll hv support from HL for at least the next 5 yrs.

This bike has also been around for very long..proven records...heard tt TP trial-tested both ST11 and divvy last time.but most of them prefer divvy cos its easier to maintain and easier to squeeze thru traffic...my gf and myself are working office hours...everyday i'll hv to pass by cte to go back yishun..can u imagine the jam during these times?but so far i've yet to hv any problems squeezing thru cars..S4 can go thru..divvy most prob can go thru also...but hv to estimate estimate also lah...it all depends on the road situation...cannot squeeze just follow the car queue loh...drivers wun force u out of the lane..but sometimes also got guai lan ones...so make 'teach' them a lesson...the more they tailgate u the more slow u go...u see them trying to accelerate by overtaking u from the left...accelerate as well in your own lane...they'll get stuck and eventually return behind u..haha...need to teach some drivers how to show respect to bikes sometimes..really too much some of them..esp cab drivers / nissan cefiros / drivers who hv no $ to buy bmws but try to make their normal saloon cars like sports car / mercedes..shame on these pple! even most bmws drivers know how to understand / give way to bikes...

yo... you are most welcome!!!!!!!!!!!

I also feel the same and do the same to tailgater...... just last 2 weeks I encounter such road bully which drive like is his road....at 110 and tail me so close I almost need to jump off already....so angry I let go of my throttle and engine brake until 50 km/h. LL over take me from left which I gave him a kiss goodbye and next moment smell my exhaust....liao

So I understand how you feel.......but again.....we divv can be so fast they don't even have chance to say hallo......cheers

SiLvErGhOsT · May 26, 2004

Hi Julian,

I go straight to the point that your mechanic knows nothing about this bike at all, First why Yamaha stop production: this bike already 10yrs into production,Yamaha have the habit to stop production at 10yrs cycle...compare to other bike makers or manufacturers stop less then that,this bikes sell well in the europe.. If you check the europe..website you will know better...infact most manufacturers stop their production about 10 years cycle...to change the model to keep phase with the design and technologies...

Why TP choose this model reason reliable and no headaches...FYI, TP have a limited budget..what I know they order another badge of diversion...they have no interest in problem bikes, ones they already had bad experience with BMWs... every thing $pensive...inclusive of servicing..

Yamaha production bikes...Why worry about spare parts they are the best in spare parts compare to other makers...

Diversion is a straight forward simplified engine with carburetor and hardly have any problem..compare to multi valve vtec or EFI systems...with sensors...

If you are talking about spare part problems most of the bikes have this for example KAWA, SUZuki also have spare parts problem must wait for the shipment...I think your mech is not doing his homework...!

One of my colleague waited for his suzuki dr650 for two and half mth for his engine block so...what is your mech actually saying?.

Bikes with shaft, until 'NOW' go and...ask the Mechanic have he repair any shaft...yet, I bet you "NO"...Why serious touring bike stick to shaft because of their reliability...I have a friend using V-max 17yrs no shaft problem.! and another friend KAWA 550 shaft 15yrs no problem...SO! what is the mech problem no buisness?

Ahh julian, before diversion I was riding ST11, your friend says it is hot so far I have not come across anything hot.. ST11 in drizzling or small shower you won't get wet a good weather protection...engine hot that is normal but doen't effect the rider...Zoom in and out is the matter of getting use to it, for instance a S4 with pillion can squeeze in so can I with ST11..

Why I trade in ST11,my reason is the weight and radiator 280kg++ with accessories compare to divvy air cool 240kg...Now You know why I chose diversion...

About Lower cowling for Diversion you can get it ...but I would not recommend it first, Diversion is a air cool engine, unless you are in europe it is a different situation,condition...there are others using lower cowling...here..

You are looking for .e.g:shaft drive,air cool engine, centre stand, for long distance bigger fuel tank...BMWs RS,LT,GT,RT,yamaha FJR13water cool,honda ST-11,13water cool...but the price, ins, weight and other factors must consider...so here is where you should do your Research!!

But thinking of riding around in S'pore S4 is more then enough:goodluck:

SiLvErGhOsT · May 26, 2004

Originally posted by Casper4XXX@May 25 2004, 11:56 PM
Yo bro O2, I went down HL again today and requested HL to help me check on the price for carbon fibre repairing and respray. Budget 250/-.

Hey Casperxxx,

I search for the address(fibreglass repairing and respraying co..) very sorry I can't find the address,I might have thrown that issue or missed place...

Now HL should have the stock for the TP bike Screen, Why don't you fix that... he,he,he,he!

After fitting atleast yours look different and more like TP...Now you can take revenge...

You really can scared the sh*t out of those lorry drivers !!!

One more thing, if you wanted to go PD... sms me or call me so I can pick you up...afterall what are diversion groups are for....?

OMD · May 26, 2004

Guys,

I have a friend who wish to join us for the ride, is it ok? He is not riding a Diversion. Better ask people here first...................

From,

OMD

DiabolicZero · May 26, 2004

Bro Silverghost, thanks for the offer to pillion me but i cant leave spore wo my fiancee's approval leh...she wun let me go alone...

to think i even went hunting for a riding jacket...but no way am i gg to miss the 2nd trip...too bad OMD wun be able to make it...

as for the fibre workshop,it's ok...HL just gave me a quote today.Repair plus re-spray neccessary parts bout 180/-...whew! at least the crowling can be saved...

I intend to change the headlight and sidelight bulb,following the majority here since i'll be changing the headlight completely..might as well do everything at one go...will read previous posts for more info on where u guys get the brighter bulbs..

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